Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-07 Thread Mordechai Peller
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Veine K Vikberg wrote: So it's not WAI that's unforgiving, but Bobby in its miopic application of the guidelines (which are, at this stage, already quite out of date in many areas such as the one discussed here). There is really a quite simple solution, which is what you

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread mike bailey
use window.open . Ted Drake wrote: Could someone give me the appropriate replacement for target=_blank. I can't remember the correct javascript statement that opens it in a new window. I'm sure others could use it as well. Thank you Ted Drake Web Content Editor CSA Travel Protection

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Veine K Vikberg
a href=wharever.com onkeypress=window.open(this.href); return false; onclick=window.open(this.href); return false;Whatever.com/a HTH ~Veine At 09:28 AM 12/6/2004 -0800, you wrote: Could someone give me the appropriate replacement for target=_blank. I can't remember the correct javascript

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Veine K Vikberg wrote: a href=wharever.com onkeypress=window.open(this.href); return false; onclick=window.open(this.href); return false;Whatever.com/a *Don't* use onkeypress, as Mozilla browsers - and rightly so - treat a TAB as a keypress as well. Using onkeypress makes it impossible for users

RE: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Ted Drake
I'm a bit confused by the (this.href) code. Should I replace that with the page in the href= section or is it looking back at the href and use that url? I understand the repetition for keypress/onclick are for those without a mouse and those with a mouse. n'est-ce pas? Ted -Original

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:03 AM 12/6/04, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: *Don't* use onkeypress, as Mozilla browsers - and rightly so - treat a TAB as a keypress as well. Using onkeypress makes it impossible for users to TAB beyond that particular link. Isn't it true that, if one did use onkeypress, the attached event

RE: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:11 AM 12/6/04, Ted Drake wrote: I'm a bit confused by the (this.href) code. Should I replace that with the page in the href= section or is it looking back at the href and use that url? -Original Message- From: Veine K Vikberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] a href=wharever.com

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Ted Drake wrote: Could someone give me the appropriate replacement for target=_blank. I can't remember the correct javascript statement that opens it in a new window. I'm sure others could use it as well. Rather than a replacement it's best to include both, a href=popup.html target=_blank

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Terrence Wood
unless, of course, you are using a DTD that doesn't include target=_blank, such as XHTML 1.0 strict or XHTML 1.0. On 2004-12-07 8:07 AM, Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Rather than a replacement it's best to include both, a href=popup.html target=_blank onclick=window.open(...);return falsepopup/a

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Chris Stratford
Just use target=_blank and use my DTD which is modified to allow the target=_blank !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC XHTML 1.01 Strict http://www.neester.com/DTD/xhtml-target.dtd; Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Ted Drake wrote: Could someone give me the appropriate replacement for target=_blank. I can't

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Veine K Vikberg
At 06:03 PM 12/6/2004 +, you wrote: Veine K Vikberg wrote: a href=wharever.com onkeypress=window.open(this.href); return false; onclick=window.open(this.href); return false;Whatever.com/a *Don't* use onkeypress, as Mozilla browsers - and rightly so - treat a TAB as a keypress as well. Using

RE: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Veine K Vikberg
At 10:59 AM 12/6/2004 -0800, you wrote: Aside, while it may be convenient to embed javascript in HTML tags by way of illustration, let me reiterate the oft-made point that doing so in practice is a mistake, for at least these two reasons: 1) User agents that don't support the scripting language

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Veine K Vikberg
At 07:51 AM 12/7/2004 +1100, you wrote: Just use target=_blank and use my DTD which is modified to allow the target=_blank !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC XHTML 1.01 Strict http://www.neester.com/DTD/xhtml-target.dtd; One of the more resourceful ways of getting around the problem with target=new that I

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Mordechai Peller
Paul Novitski wrote: You can find an excellent introduction to scripting events on Peter-Paul Koch's http://www.quirksmode.org/ Another excellant resource is Unobtrusive Javascript (http://www.onlinetools.org/articles/unobtrusivejavascript/) **

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Veine K Vikberg wrote: Well, my link was given for XHTML Strict, in where my solution is the only way to both make sure it is to the greatest extent accessible as well as validating the code. Let me explain a little more; You missed my point completely: keep the onclick, but ditch the

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Veine K Vikberg
At 11:54 PM 12/6/2004 +, you wrote: Veine K Vikberg wrote: Well, my link was given for XHTML Strict, in where my solution is the only way to both make sure it is to the greatest extent accessible as well as validating the code. Let me explain a little more; You missed my point completely:

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Veine K Vikberg wrote: and if the goal was only XHTML compliance I would agree with you to 100% on the issue of not using onkeypress for the reason above. I actually never mentioned anything about XHTML validation in my original reply, but yes. However, the WAI is not as forgiving and this is

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Veine K Vikberg
At 02:28 AM 12/7/2004 +, you wrote: However, the WAI is not as forgiving and this is a device-dependent attribute, where redundant input methods are required for the same element. There are five instances where WAI gives us no choice but to use redundancy: I find it interesting how you

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Veine K Vikberg wrote: If you try and validate anything towards the standards at Bobby (which is the measurement my clients in the public sector uses) there is no way you can get around the redundancy, if you only do onclick it gives you an error at level 2, that is what I mean with