Re: [WSG] Accessibility related

2004-05-27 Thread russ - maxdesign
This WAI country list is good but Aussies should be aware that NOIE no longer exists and AGIMO has taken over some of its responsibilities: http://www.agimo.gov.au/ A great overview of accessibility can be found here (from Andy Budd): http://www.skillswap.org/downloads/accessibility.pps Russ

RE: [WSG] Accessibility related

2004-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I take it from your website you are in Sydney? Thought you might like to know how legislation works in the UK. If someone has a problem they normally try to deal with it through the UK court system and therefore UK law. If they don’t get an answer or the answer they didn’t want they will then

RE: [WSG] Definition list formatting problem in IE

2004-05-27 Thread Miles Tillinger
Update! Added width: 50em; to dd and it stopped it from floating to the right. But now the dd wraps at a fixed width! I want it to go 100% but it won't play ball... Mt. -Original Message- From: Miles Tillinger Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:26 PM To: Web Standards Group (E-mail)

RE: [WSG] legal requirements for accessability (bringing clients to the table)

2004-05-27 Thread Giles Clark
I do see where Lachlan is coming from. I have recently updated two websites both of which were almost purely images. Speaking to the designer who originally created one of the sites it became apparent that his background in for print design had lead him down theis path. Otherwise my work could

RE: [WSG] Definition list formatting problem in IE

2004-05-27 Thread P.H.Lauke
Have you tried *not* floating the dd? #apiresults dt { width: 8em; float: left; clear: left; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-weight: normal; } #apiresults dd { margin: 0; padding: 0; } Should be enough. Patrick -Original

[WSG] help me please

2004-05-27 Thread Jad Madi
please help me guys this design looks fine with mozilla 1.6 and firefox 0.8 and IE 6 XP but IE 5 and IE 5.5 screw up Anyone can offer help ? http://easyhttp.com/design/xhtml/ style http://easyhttp.com/design/xhtml/css/easyhttp.css * The

RE: [WSG] Accessibility related

2004-05-27 Thread Amit Karmakar
Thanks Russ! Appreciate that. Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2004 4:20 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility related This WAI

RE: [WSG] Accessibility related

2004-05-27 Thread Amit Karmakar
Yes well unfortunately enough someone from brazil has been copying my site and already reproduced 1. http://kanguruh.com.br/novakang/kanguruh.htm 2. http://www.hotbook.com.br/novahb/HBK.htm I wrote the guy and asked him to take my design off but as is the case you don't hear from them if they

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

2004-05-27 Thread Scott Reston
Jaime - there's been a lot of discussion about this issue. I'm currently using a method referred to as the 'Flash Satay' method. There are severalother methods (sorry - can't locate URLs just not).All have their ups and downs. ALA discussed satay here:

RE: [WSG] help me please

2004-05-27 Thread Chatham, Will
Hi, There are several things you could try in an attempt to fix this. First, validate your XHTML and CSS. Next, try applying the IE Box Model Hack (http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html). Since you are using padding and a border on some of your divs, this is likely the problem. IE5.5

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

2004-05-27 Thread cc lee
Yes, as mentioned by Scott, perhaps one of the main ways for a flash swf to validate is to use ALA's flash satay method... However, the problem i have with this is that it doesn't view on MSIE5.x/Win - which obviously is still a popular combination. There is apparently a workaround to this,

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

2004-05-27 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
-- Original Message - From: cc lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, as mentioned by Scott, perhaps one of the main ways for a flash swf to validate is to use ALA's flash satay method... However, the problem i have with this is that it doesn't view on MSIE5.x/Win - which obviously is

[WSG] Drop-down menus using javaScript to navigate and Accessibility Is sues

2004-05-27 Thread Grossman, Susan
We are building an internal web application that will be a portal with multiple application 'modules' from it. We are building things backwards due to deadlines and a single application module is being developed at the same time as the enterprise LF and standards, thus many of the

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

2004-05-27 Thread Scott Reston
I quite liked method used on http://www.brightcreative.com/ It uses conditional comment, but I see no harm in this. hmmm... conditional comments rears it's head. while CC might initially seem attractive, it irks me to use a proprietary kludge to implement an open standard. thoughts, all?

Re: [WSG] off topic reply to 'A New Community Based Web Site for Review'

2004-05-27 Thread RC Pierce
Hi Tim, Accessibility is the issue, right? I think authors need to take a stand, and let their visitors know that they are at least making an effort to reach their audience, through whichever technology that may have employed. To the average visitor, it is simple enough to ignore the link,

[WSG] Coming to Oz, looking for Freelance...

2004-05-27 Thread Mark Harwood
Now i know this is not a great use of the WSG, but as most the user do tend to be from Oz, im going to give this a shot. Im looking for a good list of Web design companys that may be willing to give me a little bit of freelance work, im going to be travelling around the whole country so it will

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

2004-05-27 Thread Jaime W
Thanks everyone. Why cant macromedia make flash validate grr! I did this using satay method but not messing with the flash code as the flash is not done by me. Seeing that it is only news and wont take a long time to load by IE, hmmm I could cheat a lil? object

[WSG] finally a mailing list thats perfect!

2004-05-27 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
Awesome a mailing list that i wanted. Hi, - im t94xr www.t94xr.net.nz

[WSG] Comment and site check

2004-05-27 Thread Jaime W
Sorry to trouble you guys. Could you do a check on your browser for this project of mine? Test site: http://designs.sodesires.com/JoonsFamily/ http://designs.sodesires.com/JoonsFamily/profile/index.html It would be great if Mac users could give some feedback. So far it

Re: [WSG] finally a mailing list thats perfect!

2004-05-27 Thread Jad Madi
You welcome - Original Message - From: t94xr.net.nz webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:06:22 +1200 Subject: [WSG] finally a mailing list thats perfect! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Awesome a mailing list that i wanted. Hi, - im t94xr www.t94xr.net.nz

[WSG] I'm stumped on a couple margins, could you send some ideas?

2004-05-27 Thread Ted Drake
I'm working on some prototypes for a new site. Our marketing department is working on some design ideas and I want to have some templates ready for their designs. I put together this one and like it so far. I'm using son of suckerfish for the dropdowns. I'm having two issues. I need it to

[WSG] accessible and stylish forms

2004-05-27 Thread Ted Drake
I saw a web site that described how to create fully accessible forms and make them look purty. Does anyone know where that would be? I am having a heck of a time finding information on creating stylish and completely standards based forms. The sad thing is, I did this already for a

Re: [WSG] accessible and stylish forms

2004-05-27 Thread Andy Clarke
Dear Ted, Could you be referring to http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/stylish_accessible_forms.html (my personal blog) In the last few days I have written an update, playing with the CSS to show more clearly what can be possible with the technique... Kind regards Malarkey Ted Drake

RE: [WSG] accessible and stylish forms

2004-05-27 Thread Kat Rasmussen
Title: Message This might be the one: http://www.aplus.co.yu/dots/109/ -Original Message- I saw a web site that described how to create fully accessible forms and make them look purty. Does anyone know where that would be?

[WSG] Fwd: remove p widows/orphans?

2004-05-27 Thread !!blue
Hi, Is there a way to eliminate widows/orphans in paragraphs? Not when the html page is printed out, but when viewed in a browser. I wanted to know if anyone's run into this and knows how to fix/kludge/hack? (preferably something that would validate of course) If not, I'll keep on adding br /'s

RE: [WSG] Fwd: remove p widows/orphans?

2004-05-27 Thread P.H.Lauke
As widows/orphans in paragraphs depend heavily on various factors (screen/window and font size, to name a few), there is no reliable way I'm aware of that could help you here, I'm afraid. Unrelated to this issue, but interesting nonetheless in the context of widows/orphans:

RE: [WSG] Definition list formatting problem in IE

2004-05-27 Thread Miles Tillinger
It would appear not... :) Thanks Patrick, worked a treat! -Original Message- From: P.H.Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Definition list formatting problem in IE Have you tried *not* floating the dd?

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

2004-05-27 Thread Amit Karmakar
Taking this concept a bit further Images can serve as backgrounds what about flash movies? e.g. #banner {color: #E5E7B1;font-family: georgia, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size: x-large;font-weight: bold;padding: 15px 15px 5px 15px;background-image:

RE: [WSG] accessible and stylish forms

2004-05-27 Thread Cameron Adams
Nah, I reckon it was this one: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24/ P.S. Stop stealing my titles, Andy :p Regards, -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Kat Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might be the one: http://www.aplus.co.yu/dots/109/

Re: [WSG] Comment and site check

2004-05-27 Thread Hugh Todd
Jaime, Displays beautifully on Safari 1.2 and Mac IE 5.2.3. Except that the Joons Family crest thing disappears in IE 5 -- for some reason the image replacement technique isn't working. Why not use an actual image? -Hugh Todd Could you do a check on your browser for this project of mine? Test

[WSG] new to the list

2004-05-27 Thread Marie
I'm having an issue with a drop-down menu on my page. When I run my validator it comes up with this message I'm not sure how to fix it - can someone help please? The page is here - http://marie-str.com/faeries/tester.html This is the line of code I'm referring to - option value="#"

RE: [WSG] new to the list

2004-05-27 Thread Kay Smoljak
Hi Marie, If you're going to use xhtml, you need to give every attribute a value. Your example would become: option value=# selected=selectedSelect a page/option HTH, Kay. -- Kay Smoljak Senior Developer/QC Leader/Search Optimisation PerthWeb Pty Ltd - http://www.perthweb.com.au/ Ph: 08 9226

RE: [WSG] new to the list

2004-05-27 Thread Miles Tillinger
Because you've declared XHTML doctype for your page (see first line of your code) you need to use parameter=value pairs in all cases. So for valid XHTML you'd need option value=# selected=selectedSelect a page/option For more XHTML syntax rules see

Re: [WSG] new to the list

2004-05-27 Thread Marie
Thank you! Sometimes the most obvious answer is the hardest to see LOL I did learn that! Marie ~aka~ Vanille About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1 Vanille's Place - http://marie-str.com Technicolour Rainbow - http://techrain.ca the FlipSide - http://the-flipside.com Hi Marie, If

Re: [WSG] new to the list

2004-05-27 Thread Marie
Thank you Miles :) I did learn about that - LOL All fixed now! Marie ~aka~ Vanille About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1 Vanille's Place - http://marie-str.com Technicolour Rainbow - http://techrain.ca the FlipSide - http://the-flipside.com Because you've declared XHTML doctype for your

Re: [WSG] new to the list

2004-05-27 Thread Marie
Title: Message Thank you Kat :) I feel like an idiot LOL I knew that! Just couldn't SEE it! Oh - and I apologize to you all - I forgot to turn off the 'request read receipt' thingy before I sent my request - it's off now ~ Marie ~aka~ Vanille About Certified XHTML Developer - Level

RE: [WSG] new to the list

2004-05-27 Thread Jeff Lowder
Title: Message Thats correct Kat, in XHTML shorthand attributes have been depreciated. So you must use selected=selected Cheers Jeff Lowder Web: www.acessibility1st.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat

Re: [WSG] Fwd: remove p widows/orphans?

2004-05-27 Thread Justin French
Zulema, First and foremost, I am a designer, so please take this advice from someone who understands really beautiful typography, but also understands when the web won't comply. This is definitely a case of don't bother. For starters, you're typesetting those orphans and widows on YOUR

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-05-27 Thread Cline, Lezli
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[WSG] An Objective Look at Table Based vs. CSS Based Design

2004-05-27 Thread Neerav
An Objective Look at Table Based vs. CSS Based Design http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/05/an_objective_look_at_table_based_vs_css_based_design/index.php IMHO while the article has some good points, trying to claim that it is an objective article is going to far. I'd say it is subjective in

[WSG] Proper usage of Blockquote and Cite

2004-05-27 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I'm converting one of my clients' sites to rid it of tables and make it xhtml1 strict. The site has a testimonials page, which quotes text from many customers and adds their initials and occupation. I believe I should be using blockquote for this, and perhaps cite (the element, not the

RE: [WSG]

2004-05-27 Thread David McDonald
Andy's article has been discussed previously on the list and he's also a member of this list. Do a search through the Discussion List Archive for the thread tables are bad because Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] An Objective Look at

Re: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

2004-05-27 Thread Rob Cameron
Check out this article ... http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay Rob Jaime W wrote: Hello everyone I am facing some validation issues (XHTML 1.0 Transitional) with the following flash object codes: OBJECT classid="" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"