[WSG] 100% width table inside a DIV

2005-08-17 Thread Miles Tillinger
Hi, Consider the following example: http://www.streetdaddy.com/temp/index.html http://www.streetdaddy.com/temp/index.css I am developing a site based around this structure, however something in the complicated CSS of my site is causing it to not behave the same as this simple example. The

RE: [WSG] html design - best practices

2005-08-17 Thread Edward Clarke
You are correct, it hasn't been 'officially' deprecated but as visual tags and not logical ones; CSS offers a better long term solution. http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xhtml2-20050527/elements.html seems to agree. Regarding books, if you carry extra [per book] information in the context of the

RE: [WSG] 100% width table inside a DIV [SOLVED]

2005-08-17 Thread Miles Tillinger
SOLVED ... I think! After reading some recenet articles at positioniseverything.net I discovered that one method of fixing the IE bug is to use the double-wrapper method: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/percentages.html (down the page) Not elegant, but works for me in IE5+. The

Re: [WSG] attribute selectors question

2005-08-17 Thread Anders Ringqvist
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Drake, Ted C. wrote: Hi All I have a quick question. I don't seem to be running on all cylinders and I can't remember how to write the css that would look for a link that has .pdf in the href. A [href???.pdf]... If you use type=application/pdf in your anchor, I

RE: [WSG] Help with navigation

2005-08-17 Thread Craig Rippon
Don't forget to change the spelling of Cross cutltural awareness Craig Rippon Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2005 10:50 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Help with navigation Hi The

Re: [WSG] Irrelevant properties

2005-08-17 Thread Jan Brasna
Hey mate :) Howdy. While it is valid, applying innapproriate properties to elements is habit worth avoiding :) Eh, yes, this was just a quick example I noticed when gluing together two definitions, so I was just curious - I've never thought about a similar issue. So I've already split

RE: [WSG] html design - best practices

2005-08-17 Thread Julie Romanowski
On Aug 16, 2005, at 9:07 PM, Ben Curtis wrote: That's a very curious thing for the W3C to publish. I am not aware of any HTML standard in which b and i are deprecated. Can anyone cite such a declaration? They are included in XHTML 1.1 (Presentation Module)

[WSG] achieve 95% height with empty div?

2005-08-17 Thread kvnmcwebn
hello, I how can i get this div to scale to 95% of the window height without filling it with (invisible) content. div.logo { background: url(../LOGO.gif) bottom right no-repeat; height:95%; margin: auto 0 0 0; } ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] achieve 95% height with empty div?

2005-08-17 Thread Brian Cummiskey
kvnmcwebn wrote: hello, I how can i get this div to scale to 95% of the window height without filling it with (invisible) content. div.logo { background: url(../LOGO.gif) bottom right no-repeat; height:95%; margin: auto 0 0 0; } This doesn't work, because it has no idea what 95% of

RE: [WSG] achieve 95% height with empty div?

2005-08-17 Thread kvnmcwebn
wow..i had no idea... I had assumed that any height or width declaration would be 100% of the browser window by default.. thanks, ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] Request for comments on a website.

2005-08-17 Thread Stephen Francis Johnson
Hi all, I have been a lurker on this list for a short while. I have a request regarding a web site that I have been working on. The site can be found at: http://www.townguidebooks.bkecreative.co.uk/ I am looking for general comments regarding this site, its functionality and usability. If

Re: [WSG] Request for comments on a website.

2005-08-17 Thread David Laakso
Stephen Francis Johnson wrote: Hi all, I have been a lurker on this list for a short while. I have a request regarding a web site that I have been working on. The site can be found at: http://www.townguidebooks.bkecreative.co.uk/ Stephen Johnson Nice job Stephen. Looks and works well in

Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system

2005-08-17 Thread Matt Hampel
I'll second the Textpattern reccomendation. It's free, and the learning curve is very reasonable. It's easy for complete beginners to use the system. And it cuts development time by a siginifigant ammount because it uses a logical, non-constraining template system. Matt On 8/16/05, morten

RE: [WSG] Request for comments on a website.

2005-08-17 Thread Peter Goddard
Stephen Nice design, and great work. Is the curve at the bottom of the page parallel with the curve on the banner? It looks slightly out to me but it could just be my eyesight! Lol Always pleasing to see good UK design. Well done! Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Request for comments on a website.

2005-08-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Stephen Francis Johnson wrote: Hi all, I have been a lurker on this list for a short while. I have a request regarding a web site that I have been working on. The site can be found at: http://www.townguidebooks.bkecreative.co.uk/ The CSS validator returns something:

RE: [WSG] Request for comments on a website.

2005-08-17 Thread Patrick Lauke
Thierry Koblentz You can force the scrollbar on shorter page to avoid a lateral jump. With something like my pixel pushing technique http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/49/ for instance. Patrick __ Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster /

Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system

2005-08-17 Thread David Nicol
Textpattern gets my vote too - I've found that it is very flexible. We've used it for several sites including www.cope.ltd.uk and www.selfcateringshetland.com. All the sites we've used it for so far have been static, i.e. 'non-blog' - there is no real problem setting this up once you understand

Re: [WSG] html design - best practices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Curtis
On Aug 17, 2005, at 4:39 AM, Julie Romanowski wrote: On Aug 16, 2005, at 9:07 PM, Ben Curtis wrote: That's a very curious thing for the W3C to publish. I am not aware of any HTML standard in which b and i are deprecated. Can anyone cite such a declaration? ... Please look at the date of

Re: [WSG] Win IE hacks -- Please help!

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Curtis
On Aug 16, 2005, at 9:45 PM, Janelle Clemens wrote: Thanks Ben. Unfortunately it is not for tabular data but page layout. But let me clarify that. The main template (topnav, sidenav, footer) is in a tabless format and validated. The content area will have a 2 row, 3 column layout.

Re: [WSG] attribute selectors question

2005-08-17 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Thierry Koblentz wrote: If you use type=application/pdf in your anchor, I think you can go with: A[type=application/pdf] Spookily enough, I also did something like this as an experiment back in June last year... http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/38/ Ok, I'll stop pimping my warez

RE: [WSG] html design - best practices

2005-08-17 Thread Edward Clarke
I see your point about backward compatibility but B and I aren't technically, semantically empty. (If that makes sense). span style=font-weight: normal;Harry Potter/span makes sense... b style=font-weight: normal;Harry Potter/b does not. B and I being visual tags should be removed from the

Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system

2005-08-17 Thread Steven C. Perkins
I surf with ignore font sizes on with IE and the TextPattern home page does not play well in that circumstance. Interior pages seem to be OK. I'd be interested in knowing if it always makes the homepage fixed font-size or relative font-size. Steven C. Perkins At 11:13 AM 8/17/2005, you

[WSG] Site check (eCommerce)

2005-08-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
http://63.135.116.208 Hi all, I have a few questions: - Is a DL the right markup for the FAQ and Directions pages? - On many pages (Home, CheckOut, FAQ, Directions), I'm using the same link text to refer to different resources (13.1 Clearly identify the target of each link). Should I be really

[WSG] achieve 95% height with empty div in fire fox

2005-08-17 Thread kvnmcwebn
This doesn't work, because it has no idea what 95% of nothing is. you need to specify the parent element to be 100%. in this case, body { height: 100%; } This does the trick nicely in ie but firefox seems oblivious to the height declaration in the body rule. Is there

[WSG] iframes

2005-08-17 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, What is the consensus of iframes? I've heard they've been deprecated, could some point me to articles on their impact on accessibility? C ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] Site check (eCommerce)

2005-08-17 Thread Jona Decker
Thierry Koblentz wrote: - Is a DL the right markup for the FAQ and Directions pages? I think a definition list is the most semantically correct markup for an FAQ. If you look at the w3 documention on lists it says that DLs ...consist of two parts: a term and a description which is pretty close

Re: [WSG] achieve 95% height with empty div in fire fox

2005-08-17 Thread FriccaWagner
I think html, body {height:100;} could help. Oh my god! My first mail at this list and my first mistake. I'm sorry, I wanted to write html, body {height:100%;} g fricca ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] achieve 95% height with empty div in fire fox

2005-08-17 Thread kvnmcwebn
I think html, body {height:100;} could help. Thanks fricca, but no joy. -Kevin body { height: 100%; } This does the trick nicely in ie but firefox seems oblivious to the height declaration in the body rule. Is there something else i can do for ff? Hello, I

RE: [WSG] achieve 95% height with empty div in fire fox

2005-08-17 Thread kvnmcwebn
doh! sorry i should have realized that wasnt intentional. that did the trick.-thanks a mill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of FriccaWagner Sent: 17 August 2005 20:18 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] achieve 95% height with

Re: [WSG] html design - best practices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Curtis
On Aug 17, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Edward Clarke wrote: I see your point about backward compatibility but B and I aren't technically, semantically empty. (If that makes sense). span style=font-weight: normal;Harry Potter/span makes sense... b style=font-weight: normal;Harry Potter/b does not.

Re: [WSG] iframes

2005-08-17 Thread standards
Chris, I can't speak to iframes because I use the CSS overflow style, which provides the same basic functionality, but requires using absolute positioning, and the height should be insufficient to contain the text, which will automatically generate a scroll bar: #news {position: absolute;

Re: [WSG] iframes

2005-08-17 Thread Brian Cummiskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't speak to iframes because I use the CSS overflow style, which provides the same basic functionality, but requires using absolute positioning, For the record, the div + css overflow does NOT have to be absolute position. It can be block, or relative, or

Re: [WSG] iframes

2005-08-17 Thread Kenny Graham
If you're using the iFrame to pull an external site into a box in your own site, I've been using object for that. But I'm not sure on the cross-browser status on that.

RE: [WSG] Win IE hacks -- Please help!

2005-08-17 Thread Janelle Clemens
Hi Ben. I tried your code but it is not giving what I need. It's a design thing. Not my design as we have designers that are designing the templates. My job is to make the html look like their comps. Here are the examples: http://www.sgi.com/tempie.html The first is your code. The

RE: [WSG] iframes

2005-08-17 Thread kvnmcwebn
I used a 3 iframe layout on a site which i did before i was aware of web standards. There was a problem with a scoll bar showing up where it wasnt supposed to in ie but otherthan that it worked all right. I havnt used them since then. here is the url. www.strykelacrosse.com -Original

Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system

2005-08-17 Thread Patrick Ryan
Based on your requirements, I'd say your choices are Textpattern or Wordpress. I built my site on wordpress(http://www.agavegroup.com) and after that experience (and installing both wordpress and textpattern) I'd say Wordpress is easier to use, and is a great choice for small to medium sites.

Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system

2005-08-17 Thread Phil Gohr
Is anyone else having trouble downloading the Textpattern file? I keep getting a server error msg. 412=precondition failed. aborting I'd say your choices are Textpattern or Wordpress. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

[WSG] Semantic Calendar

2005-08-17 Thread Scott Swabey \(Lafinboy Productions\)
G'day all I have been tinkering with a calendar generation script (PHP if relevant), and have developed two versions. One uses a semantically correct table for layout, the other uses ordered lists to hold and layout the day names and month dates. After working on this for a while and thinking

Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system

2005-08-17 Thread Kris Khaira
I'd recommend Textpattern for sites where clients might need to blog in more than just the homepage. WordPress can only do this with hacks. Running Textpattern: http://kriskhaira.com, http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk, http://nathanpitman.com/, http://particletree.com/, http://tedkennedy.com,

[WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences

2005-08-17 Thread Shane Helm
Oh no. Not another browser difference to account for. When does it ever end? :) (Please excuse me if this has been discussed before and I missed it.) Has anyone else been noticing differences on sites rendering differently in Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2? I sure have in the 2 latest sites I've

Re: [WSG] Semantic Calendar

2005-08-17 Thread Kris Khaira
Both are equally semantic depending on how it's used. If it's a list of dates, use dates. If it's a table of dates that displays dates against days (Sun, Mon, Tues... Sat), then use a table. If you're always lost about how to display something in the most semantic manner, try viewing it

Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system

2005-08-17 Thread Bert Doorn
I thought this thread was CLOSED? Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Semantic Calendar

2005-08-17 Thread John Allsopp
Hi, Check out the hcalendar microformat http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar It's based on the widely used iCalender format from the IEEE. Two of the founders of Microformats, Tantek Celik and Eric Meyer are speaking at Web Essentials in Sydney at the end of September. http://we05.com

Re: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences

2005-08-17 Thread Al Sparber
From: Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh no. Not another browser difference to account for. When does it ever end? :) (Please excuse me if this has been discussed before and I missed it.) Has anyone else been noticing differences on sites rendering differently in Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2? I