RE: [WSG] IE print bug crashes page

2004-08-12 Thread Giles Clark
Gavin, Yep I had the problem on a page on a site and I seem to remember it was something to do with the !doctype declaration: In my case I had managed to miss it off the offending page. Bloody frustrating and hard to find when all the other pages were OK. Regards Giles -Original

[WSG] RE:Flash 7 CSS/markup update

2004-08-12 Thread Andy Budd
Been looking back at the archives and discovered this post from a while back. Just wondering if your poking around came up with anything interesting? on Sat, 27 Sep 2003 James Ellis wrote Hi everyone Further to my presentation at the last Sydney meeting (on a Flash html to (x)html converter),

[WSG] XP SP 2

2004-08-12 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey List, Just letting you know XP SP2 is out now. It says its not for Single PC Use, although I just used it anyway. Its 200MB Larger than the single PC use one - so big difference in download. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/winxpsp2.mspx I didnt notice any

[WSG] Image size--where should it be?

2004-08-12 Thread Edd Hale
Title: Image size--where should it be? I am new to CSS and I am not sure if the image size (width and height) should appear in the HTML or be handled by CSS. Thank you. Edd

Re: [WSG] Image size--where should it be?

2004-08-12 Thread Neerav
If the image is used in the html than specifying height width is god eg: img src=image.jpg height=10 width=20 If the image is used in css eg: background: url(image.jpg); than I have never seen the height and width specified (I dont even know if you can) -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au

RE: [WSG] Image size--where should it be?

2004-08-12 Thread Joshua Street
Well, the W3C validation page recommends using either! Demonstrating valid CSS: p a href=http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/; img style=border:0;width:88px;height:31px src=http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss; alt=Valid CSS! / /a /p Demonstrating valid XHTML: p a

Re: [WSG] Image size--where should it be?

2004-08-12 Thread Jeffery Lowder
Hi Edd You can do it in both areas ­ traditionally you would specify it in the HTML, but as Patrick Griffiths demonstrates at HTML dog - http://www.htmldog.com/articles/elasticdesign/demo/ - you can make your images elastic if you have the dimensions in the CSS. Cheer Jeff Lowder Accessibility

Re: [WSG] Image size--where should it be?

2004-08-12 Thread Shane Helm
Is there really any reason to have it either place? Isn't it just extra code that doesn't have to be there? On Aug 12, 2004, at 6:29 PM, Joshua Street wrote: Well, the W3C validation page recommends using either! Demonstrating valid CSS: p a href=http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/; img

Re: [WSG] Image size--where should it be?

2004-08-12 Thread russ - maxdesign
Edd, Without sounding like fence sitting, the answer would be it depends on the situation and personal opinion. You probably should start by separating out images into two categories; (1) decorative images (2) content-based images (1) A decorative image is one that is purely superficial -

RE: [WSG] Image size--where should it be?

2004-08-12 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I am new to CSS and I am not sure if the image size (width and height) should appear in the HTML or be handled by CSS. Thank you. Width and height are valid attributes for images in HTML and XHTML, even in the Strict flavour. The only time I would specify it in CSS rather than

Re: [WSG] Image size--where should it be?

2004-08-12 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Friday, Aug 13, 2004, at 09:59 Australia/Sydney, Edd Hale wrote: I am new to CSS and I am not sure if the image size (width and height) should appear in the HTML or be handled by CSS. Thank you. Edd Aside from the validity/informational/decorative issues, the inclusion of width and height

[WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:37:43 +1000, russ - maxdesign wrote: You probably should start by separating out images into two categories; (1) decorative images (2) content-based images I had the interesting moment the other day where I was putting a purely decorative image into a page, but couldn't

Re: [WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
How's this: p { background: url(someimage.png) no-repeat left top; } p:first-letter { padding-left: 15px; } Works in IE5.5 onwards. 5 and below don't quite get it, I'm afraid. If 5 is your target, you may have to resort to using a sacrificial span pspan/spanblah blah.../p and the convoluted p {

Re: [WSG] XP SP 2 - Thread Closed

2004-08-12 Thread James Ellis
Hi Unless there are some major benefits to Win IE's support of CSS (I doubt it but please prove me wrong), the Web Standards Group list isn't the best place to post information like this. Cheers James Chris Stratford wrote: Hey List, Just letting you know XP SP2 is out now. It says its not for

Re: [WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 03:33:02 +0100, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: p { background: url(someimage.png) no-repeat left top; } p:first-letter { padding-left: 15px; } Would that work? I was thinking of text-indent, but it only does the one line. Works in IE5.5 onwards. 5 and below don't quite get it,

[WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?

2004-08-12 Thread Justin French
Hi Folks, Is there any way (without ids or classes) to target the 3rd (for example) column of a table to apply styles? What I'm hoping for is something like... table td[3] { text-align:right; } ... but I can't see anything like that in my references. TIA --- Justin French

Re: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?

2004-08-12 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hi Justin, Not well supported by IE but you can do with adjacent sibling selectors: td+td+td { background: red;} Only the third column would display a red background Sample: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/adjacent.htm Russ Hi Folks, Is there any way (without ids or classes) to

Re: [WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Aug 13, 2004, at 10:26 am, Lea de Groot wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:37:43 +1000, russ - maxdesign wrote: You probably should start by separating out images into two categories; (1) decorative images (2) content-based images I had the interesting moment the other day where I was putting a

Re: [WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Lea de Groot wrote: [...] Would that work? I was thinking of text-indent, but it only does the one line. [...] Ooh, neat! How does it figure out the height to leave for the image? ah, when you said small graphic, i thought you meant something *really* small. If it spans more than one line, this

Re: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?

2004-08-12 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
You may want to look at COLGROUPs http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.4 Patrick H. Lauke Justin French wrote: Hi Folks, Is there any way (without ids or classes) to target the 3rd (for example) column of a table to apply styles? What I'm hoping for is something like...

Re: [WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 04:49:04 +0100, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: ah, when you said small graphic, i thought you meant something *really* small. If it spans more than one line, this won't work, obviously, and you should stick with another sacrificial element instead. Ah, no, sorry - not that

RE: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?

2004-08-12 Thread Michael Kear
I thought I read somewhere that you can style tables by columns, just as you can by rows and cells.In the article I read, the example showed TH across the top of the table, and the first column of cells was styled using some kind of column selector, not picking the first cell in each row.