RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Martin J. Lambert
From: Paul Noone When using XHTML strict named anchors need to surround some link text, yes? I'd tinkered with a[name]:hover but I'm loathe to create a style for this. I don't think hiding them is th eoption either. Actually, when using XHTML Strict, name is not a valid attribute for

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Martin J. Lambert wrote: Actually, when using XHTML Strict, name is not a valid attribute for anchors. You can use the id attribute to get the same jump-to-that- section-of-the-page behaviour, but this will work with *any* element, not just anchors. Since you don't want the appearance of a

[WSG] [Off Topic] Javascript Change Time Zone Offset for Date Object

2005-10-31 Thread James O'Neill
Hey Guys, I am curious if you know of a way in Javascript to change the Time Zone Offset for Date Object. There is a way to getTimezoneOffset, but I do not see a way to set the Time Zone Offset. When you create a new Date object it will always be set to the current local time zone as defined on

Re: [WSG] my rounded corner box isn't displaying correctly in IE

2005-10-31 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Thanks for the tip, I tried adding this for IE in the CSS: * html #box{/*used for internet explorer*/ float:right; width:25em; background-color:#789; margin:0; padding:0; } but I still get the added stuff for my box: http://www.inspired-evolution.com/Accessibility.php

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Martin J. Lambert
From: Thierry Koblentz Martin J. Lambert wrote: Actually, when using XHTML Strict, name is not a valid attribute for anchors. You can use the id attribute to get the same jump-to-that- section-of-the-page behaviour, but this will work with *any* element, not just anchors. Since you don't

[WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

2005-10-31 Thread Ted Drake
Hi All I've always been one to remove border attributes from data table markup. However, today I disabled styles on a fairly complicated table and realized it made very little sense without any demarcation between the cells. It would be simple enough to do table border=1. And table, td, th,

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Martin J. Lambert wrote: From: Thierry Koblentz I'm not sure about that, I think it is better to use both attributes and may be even more to prevent a IE bug related to tabbing navigation. http://www.motive.co.nz/glossary/anchor.php

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Thierry Koblentz wrote: name is used for old browsers. And I'm pretty sure it validates against a Strict DTD (HTML or XHTML 1.0). Please correct me if I'm wrong here... No, you're indeed correct. Up to XHTML 1.0 Strict it's perfectly valid to use the name attribute on anchors. It's only

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Noone
Thanks guys. Patrick is right. I'd already validated the code and it came up fine. The reason I've run into this little problem is because, unlike HTML, XHTML seems to require that the a tag surrounds some text. Perhaps an nbsp; would do it? The named anchor is picking up the color of the a:link

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Paul Noone wrote: The reason I've run into this little problem is because, unlike HTML, XHTML seems to require that the a tag surrounds some text. Perhaps an nbsp; would do it? What make you think you can't leave them empty? How are other people preventing this, apart from hiding their

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Damien Hill
For IE and Firefox on PC, the styles I apply to a:link don't effect anchors. See example http://www.damienhill.com/tests/links/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2005 7:52 AM To:

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Damien Hill wrote: For IE and Firefox on PC, the styles I apply to a:link don't effect anchors. Because a name=blah/a is not a :link, but a local anchor, whereas a more generic a style selector will include those as well. So yes, a simple way to avoid issues is to just define a:link,

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Noone
Well now I'm totally confused. Ah...can anyone spell Dreamweaver? :\ a-HEM. Big sorry there. What make you think you can't leave them empty? Assumptions based on a code rewrite. Is that not the case? In which case can it be self-containg and self-closing too? a name=fubar / I'm sure I ran

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Gez Lemon
On 31/10/05, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: name is used for old browsers. And I'm pretty sure it validates against a Strict DTD (HTML or XHTML 1.0). Please correct me if I'm wrong here... No, you're indeed correct. Up to XHTML 1.0 Strict it's perfectly

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Damien Hill wrote: For IE and Firefox on PC, the styles I apply to a:link don't effect anchors. Because a name=blah/a is not a :link, but a local anchor, whereas a more generic a style selector will include those as well. So yes, a simple way to avoid issues is to

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Gez Lemon wrote: The name attribute is formerly deprecated for a, applet, form, frame, iframe, img, and map in XHTML 1.0, and deleted from XHTML 1.1. I stand (well, sit) corrected. I meant deleted, but said deprecated...d'oh! P -- Patrick H. Lauke

[WSG] help on making this link validate

2005-10-31 Thread csslist
I need to get this email link to validate, i am using a coldfusion function to do this and I tried encoding it to a url safe line (urlencodedformat) but jacks it, any other ideas?or any good ideas for hiding emails from spammers that can use a dynamic email

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Paul Noone wrote: Well now I'm totally confused. Ah...can anyone spell Dreamweaver? :\ a-HEM. Big sorry there. What make you think you can't leave them empty? Assumptions based on a code rewrite. Is that not the case? In which case can it be self-containg and self-closing too? a

RE: [WSG] help on making this link validate

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Noone
You could just try hex encoding the address. There are several utilities available that will convert an email (or any other address) to its hexadecimal value. It's not bulletproof but, then, what is. And it validates. FYI, Smarty (PHP template system) has this built-in. From: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] help on making this link validate

2005-10-31 Thread csslist
thanks,the way its written im not sure if i can or not, i will try though :)From: "Patrick H. Lauke" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:30 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] help on making this link validatecsslist wrote: I need to get this email link to validate, i

Re: [WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

2005-10-31 Thread Christian Montoya
It would be simple enough to do table border=1. And table, td, th, thead, tbody, tfoot {border:none;} And then add them back as needed. What do you think? Is it a good idea? Should I turn around and run away from adding some presentational markup in my pages? I think it's find to have

Re: [WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

2005-10-31 Thread heretic
Hi, However, today I disabled styles on a fairly complicated table and realized it made very little sense without any demarcation between the cells. It would be simple enough to do table border=1. I've found that tables really need a border to make sense, much the same as a fieldset needs the

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Geoff Pack
Martin J. Lambert wrote: Actually, when using XHTML Strict, name is not a valid attribute for anchors. You can use the id attribute to get the same jump-to-that- section-of-the-page behaviour, but this will work with *any* element, not just anchors. Since you don't want the appearance of a

[WSG] Opera list positioning oddity

2005-10-31 Thread Joshua Street
Hi all, Just done on a site that is near-pixel perfect in (I think) everything but Opera, which does something weird with the nav (rendering the site unusable). I have absolutely no idea why, though. IE was showing some quirky behaviours but I managed to make Firefox (and Konqueror) display in

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Mordechai Peller
Gez Lemon wrote: The name attribute is formerly deprecated for...form...in XHTML 1.0, and deleted from XHTML 1.1. From form, yes, but not from the various form elements such as input /, where it may in fact be required for proper functioning, though valid without. While I'm sure most of you

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Mordechai Peller
Paul Noone wrote: I'd tinkered with a[name]:hover but I'm loathe to create a style for this. I don't think hiding them is th eoption either. Why not use a class (a name=... class=named/a) as a[name] doesn't yet work on IE, never mind any browser which doesn't understand jumping to an id.