Re: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)
Firevox also implemts much of WAI-ARIA, so it is useful for testing and demos of ARIA functionality. On 05/12/2007, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would describe it as full-fledged screen reader as it had many shortcomings. I got the impression it was really just a hobby project, and Charles said he had pretty much abandoned it in order to work on more interesting stuff. I see it is now up to version 3.4 so it will be interesting to see how it has progressed. It was certainly usable, but it bears no comparison with a professional screen reader like JAWS, which is a far superior product. OK, it should be for $1500 but people should not think that they're getting a $1500 product for free when they install FireVox. It's more akin to products in the $200 price bracket. One example of the difference is in forms where label elements have not been used, and let's face it, that's 99% of all forms. JAWS applies heuristics to identify the text that is most likely to be the label, and associates it with the form control as if a label element had been used. 9 times out of 10 it gets it right. FireVox does not do this. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: 05 December 2007 04:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox) I'm wondering if anyone has tried/tested the following potentially useful extensions and if so what their opinion was/is: Two recently released text-to-speech extensions can transform Firefox into a talking Web browser suitable for users with visual impairments -- and anyone else who can use a speech interface to the Web. Fire Vox is designed to be a full-fledged screen reader in a browser, usable for daily browsing even for unsighted users. CLiCk, Speak provides point-and-click screen reading, which can be helpful for partially-sighted users or sighted users who have written language difficulties (such as dyslexia). http://www.linux.com/feature/122197 Nick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)
Firevox also implemts much of WAI-ARIA, so it is useful for testing and demos of ARIA functionality. On 05/12/2007, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would describe it as full-fledged screen reader as it had many shortcomings. I got the impression it was really just a hobby project, and Charles said he had pretty much abandoned it in order to work on more interesting stuff. I see it is now up to version 3.4 so it will be interesting to see how it has progressed. It was certainly usable, but it bears no comparison with a professional screen reader like JAWS, which is a far superior product. OK, it should be for $1500 but people should not think that they're getting a $1500 product for free when they install FireVox. It's more akin to products in the $200 price bracket. One example of the difference is in forms where label elements have not been used, and let's face it, that's 99% of all forms. JAWS applies heuristics to identify the text that is most likely to be the label, and associates it with the form control as if a label element had been used. 9 times out of 10 it gets it right. FireVox does not do this. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: 05 December 2007 04:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox) I'm wondering if anyone has tried/tested the following potentially useful extensions and if so what their opinion was/is: Two recently released text-to-speech extensions can transform Firefox into a talking Web browser suitable for users with visual impairments -- and anyone else who can use a speech interface to the Web. Fire Vox is designed to be a full-fledged screen reader in a browser, usable for daily browsing even for unsighted users. CLiCk, Speak provides point-and-click screen reading, which can be helpful for partially-sighted users or sighted users who have written language difficulties (such as dyslexia). http://www.linux.com/feature/122197 Nick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)
A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would describe it as full-fledged screen reader as it had many shortcomings. I got the impression it was really just a hobby project, and Charles said he had pretty much abandoned it in order to work on more interesting stuff. I see it is now up to version 3.4 so it will be interesting to see how it has progressed. It was certainly usable, but it bears no comparison with a professional screen reader like JAWS, which is a far superior product. OK, it should be for $1500 but people should not think that they're getting a $1500 product for free when they install FireVox. It's more akin to products in the $200 price bracket. One example of the difference is in forms where label elements have not been used, and let's face it, that's 99% of all forms. JAWS applies heuristics to identify the text that is most likely to be the label, and associates it with the form control as if a label element had been used. 9 times out of 10 it gets it right. FireVox does not do this. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: 05 December 2007 04:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox) I'm wondering if anyone has tried/tested the following potentially useful extensions and if so what their opinion was/is: Two recently released text-to-speech extensions can transform Firefox into a talking Web browser suitable for users with visual impairments -- and anyone else who can use a speech interface to the Web. Fire Vox is designed to be a full-fledged screen reader in a browser, usable for daily browsing even for unsighted users. CLiCk, Speak provides point-and-click screen reading, which can be helpful for partially-sighted users or sighted users who have written language difficulties (such as dyslexia). http://www.linux.com/feature/122197 Nick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)
A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would describe it as full-fledged screen reader as it had many shortcomings. I got the impression it was really just a hobby project, and Charles said he had pretty much abandoned it in order to work on more interesting stuff. I see it is now up to version 3.4 so it will be interesting to see how it has progressed. It was certainly usable, but it bears no comparison with a professional screen reader like JAWS, which is a far superior product. OK, it should be for $1500 but people should not think that they're getting a $1500 product for free when they install FireVox. It's more akin to products in the $200 price bracket. One example of the difference is in forms where label elements have not been used, and let's face it, that's 99% of all forms. JAWS applies heuristics to identify the text that is most likely to be the label, and associates it with the form control as if a label element had been used. 9 times out of 10 it gets it right. FireVox does not do this. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: 05 December 2007 04:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox) I'm wondering if anyone has tried/tested the following potentially useful extensions and if so what their opinion was/is: Two recently released text-to-speech extensions can transform Firefox into a talking Web browser suitable for users with visual impairments -- and anyone else who can use a speech interface to the Web. Fire Vox is designed to be a full-fledged screen reader in a browser, usable for daily browsing even for unsighted users. CLiCk, Speak provides point-and-click screen reading, which can be helpful for partially-sighted users or sighted users who have written language difficulties (such as dyslexia). http://www.linux.com/feature/122197 Nick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
form elements have focus() method in javascript. plain html doesn't allow this. Cheers, Max. 2007/12/5, Minh D. Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
On 12/5/07, Minh D. Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Do you mean you want to automatically give focus to a particular form field when the page loads? You can simply call the .focus() method on the element: document.getElementById('myfield').focus(); Consider the accessibility implications, first, though; not everyone will be happy to have decisions made for them about where they want their cursor to be. ;) - Matthew. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
By default, forms fields take focus from the top-down and left to right. All you have to do, is line them up in the order you want them to have focus. -chuck = On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Minh D. Tran wrote: Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
tabindex determines the order in which people tab through a form. I would prefer this to using javascript because it avoids problems with browsers that don't recognize the javascript. http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.11 Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Charlesthomas Eaton wrote: By default, forms fields take focus from the top-down and left to right. All you have to do, is line them up in the order you want them to have focus. -chuck = On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Minh D. Tran wrote: Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
Michael Horowitz wrote: tabindex determines the order in which people tab through a form. The default tabindex simply follows the source order, as mentioned before. I would recommend not specifying the tabindex unless you are prepared to spend a lot of time doing everything, as it overrides the default. For more: http://joeclark.org/book/sashay/serialization/Chapter08.html#h3-5325 http://www.netmag.co.uk/zine/the-accessibility-test/www-huntforproperty-ie There are two main methods of going through a page with a screen reader, with 'next' (arrowing in JAWs) or with the tab, through links and form controls. When those two don't match, it's pretty confusing. Kind regards, -Alastair *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
Michael Horowitz wrote: tabindex determines the order in which people tab through a form. The default tabindex simply follows the source order, as mentioned before. I would recommend not specifying the tabindex unless you are prepared to spend a lot of time doing everything, as it overrides the default. For more: http://joeclark.org/book/sashay/serialization/Chapter08.html#h3-5325 http://www.netmag.co.uk/zine/the-accessibility-test/www-huntforproperty-ie There are two main methods of going through a page with a screen reader, with 'next' (arrowing in JAWs) or with the tab, through links and form controls. When those two don't match, it's pretty confusing. Kind regards, -Alastair *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
tabindex determines the order in which people tab through a form. I would prefer this to using javascript because it avoids problems with browsers that don't recognize the javascript. http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.11 Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Charlesthomas Eaton wrote: By default, forms fields take focus from the top-down and left to right. All you have to do, is line them up in the order you want them to have focus. -chuck = On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Minh D. Tran wrote: Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Simple question on forms
That is not really true. Form fields take focus from the order they are in the code. They can be positioned anywhere on the screen using CSS. Without intervention they will follow this order regardless of top, bottom, left or right on the screen. 'Lining them up' would (hopefully) be done with CSS but will not affect the document flow. James -- By default, forms fields take focus from the top-down and left to right. All you have to do, is line them up in the order you want them to have focus. -chuck *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box
Matthew, I don't have a field name. I only have one field on my HTML pages, which is the search box. This is my Form: | form method=get action=# onsubmit=highlight(this.highl.value);return false input type=text id=highl / input type=submit value=Search this Page /br / /form | How do I make the cursor default to the search box? Where would I put the document.getElementById('myfield').focus(); line in my HTML code? Can I add it to this code: | body onLoad=beginSearch () | Help? Paul Hanson Technical Writer RoboHelp ACE - http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/robohelp.html Quintrex Data Systems http://www.quintrex.comhttp://www.quintrex.com/ email: phanson at quintrex.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Pennell Do you mean you want to automatically give focus to a particular form field when the page loads? You can simply call the .focus() method on the element: document.getElementById('myfield').focus(); Consider the accessibility implications, first, though; not everyone will be happy to have decisions made for them about where they want their cursor to be. ;) - Matthew. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Matthew, I don't have a field name. I only have one field on my HTML pages, which is the search box. This is my Form: | form method=get action=# onsubmit=highlight(this.highl.value);return false input type=text id=highl / input type=submit value=Search this Page /br / /form | How do I make the cursor default to the search box? Where would I put the document.getElementById('myfield').focus(); line in my HTML code? Can I add it to this code: | body onLoad=beginSearch () | Help? Paul Hanson Technical Writer RoboHelp ACE - http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/robohelp.html Quintrex Data Systems http://www.quintrex.comhttp://www.quintrex.com/ email: phanson at quintrex.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Pennell Do you mean you want to automatically give focus to a particular form field when the page loads? You can simply call the .focus() method on the element: document.getElementById('myfield').focus(); Consider the accessibility implications, first, though; not everyone will be happy to have decisions made for them about where they want their cursor to be. ;) - Matthew. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Simple question on forms
That is not really true. Form fields take focus from the order they are in the code. They can be positioned anywhere on the screen using CSS. Without intervention they will follow this order regardless of top, bottom, left or right on the screen. 'Lining them up' would (hopefully) be done with CSS but will not affect the document flow. James -- By default, forms fields take focus from the top-down and left to right. All you have to do, is line them up in the order you want them to have focus. -chuck *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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form elements have focus() method in javascript. plain html doesn't allow this. Cheers, Max. 2007/12/5, Minh D. Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
On 12/5/07, Minh D. Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Do you mean you want to automatically give focus to a particular form field when the page loads? You can simply call the .focus() method on the element: document.getElementById('myfield').focus(); Consider the accessibility implications, first, though; not everyone will be happy to have decisions made for them about where they want their cursor to be. ;) - Matthew. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Simple question on forms
Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms
By default, forms fields take focus from the top-down and left to right. All you have to do, is line them up in the order you want them to have focus. -chuck = On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Minh D. Tran wrote: Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Mail issues
Hey all, As you know, we are experiencing some mail issues. The read receipts issue has been resolved and the offender removed from the WSG system. However, the double posts has not yet been resolved. It appears that the problem is not with the WSG mail server but being caused by someone who is reposting messages. Regardless, we are looking into the problem now. Be aware that we may shut down the mail server for a short time today. Thanks for your patience! Russ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Test
Hi, The duplicate posts are coming from a Globe IT server in the Netherlands. I have blocked the IP address 217.148.170.240 So we'll see if this message comes back... Please don't reply to this post. Peter Firminger *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)
I haven't tried them before but they sound very interesting. I'll have to give them a look. Nick Lo wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has tried/tested the following potentially useful extensions and if so what their opinion was/is: Two recently released text-to-speech extensions can transform Firefox into a talking Web browser suitable for users with visual impairments -- and anyone else who can use a speech interface to the Web. Fire Vox is designed to be a full-fledged screen reader in a browser, usable for daily browsing even for unsighted users. CLiCk, Speak provides point-and-click screen reading, which can be helpful for partially-sighted users or sighted users who have written language difficulties (such as dyslexia). http://www.linux.com/feature/122197 Nick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net/ http://www.arwebdesign.net Phone: 859.816.7955 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box
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[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box
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[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box
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