RE: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?

2009-01-19 Thread Stuart Foulstone
As I said - the coding errors. On Sat, January 17, 2009 8:03 pm, Rick Faircloth wrote: What did you find to be so bad about the site, Stuart? -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: Saturday,

Re: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread Simon Pascal Klein
If there were further communication between the user and server between submission of the form that would entail a page reload then a screen user shouldn’t have an issue, whereas if JavaScript would run in the background and inject errors or suggestions as it thinks the user makes them

RE: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread michael.brockington
There were a couple of articles on SitePoint (if I recall correctly) six months ago or so, that covered this, in a fairly positive light. I'm afraid I'm not in a position to chase after them right now; perhaps someone else does have the time? Mike

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2009-01-19 Thread Foong, Kevin
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Re: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread james . ducker
after all it's impossible to tell those users using an accessibility aid like a screen reader from those who do not, and hey, the growing number of users who purposefully disable JavaScript won't see the glitzy JavaScript injected errors anyway. Agreed, and any decent validation is going

Re: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread james . ducker
Hmm, I made a typo. Coffee time. On 1/20/09, james.duc...@gmail.com james.duc...@gmail.com wrote: after all it's impossible to tell those users using an accessibility aid like a screen reader from those who do not, and hey, the growing number of users who purposefully disable JavaScript

Re: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread Anthony Ziebell
Server side validation is of course a must... however, if the visually impaired visitor has _javascript_ turned on and these error elements are created, they won't exactly get to the server side validation now, will they? ARIA looks good, looking forward to it getting out of draft status.

Re: [WSG] Microformats Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: As the lord of microformats Tantek seems so vehemently opposed to it, I sincerely doubt it will happen any time soon. It's now been roughly three years since the debate around ABBR issues first started, and little visible progress seems to have been made. Who knows,

Re: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread james . ducker
Sorry, I was a bit vague. I'm saying do all validation server-side. If you're looking for a quick and dirty solution to the element injection issues when screen readers are being used, you can try setting focus back to the new element's parent, though shifting focus is a practice often frowned

Re: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread Chris Knowles
Anthony Ziebell wrote: ARIA looks good, looking forward to it getting out of draft status. I wouldn't be waiting for ARIA to get out of draft before using it :) It has pretty good support in browsers already so get stuck in. And because essentially all you are doing with ARIA is adding

Re: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread Anthony Ziebell
My only concern with a draft is that things change... Chris Knowles wrote: Anthony Ziebell wrote: ARIA looks good, looking forward to it getting out of draft status. I wouldn't be waiting for ARIA to get out of draft before using it :) It has pretty good support in

[WSG] Federal Court hearing re Virgin Blue website accessiblity

2009-01-19 Thread Chris Dimmock
. http://www.theage.com.au/travel/virgin-blue-in-court-over-website-20090119-7kc1.html Been a while since SOCOG.. Best Chris http://www.cogentis.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Federal Court hearing re Virgin Blue website accessiblity

2009-01-19 Thread Seona Bellamy
2009/1/20 Chris Dimmock chris.dimm...@gmail.com: Did anyone else see this?? http://www.propellerglobal.com/news/News/128/virgin-blue-to-court-again-for-discrimination http://www.theage.com.au/travel/virgin-blue-in-court-over-website-20090119-7kc1.html Been a while since SOCOG.. Yes

[WSG] Validating (X)HTML + ARIA

2009-01-19 Thread Frank Palinkas
Hi All, If you haven't seen this yet, it may be of practical use when and if needed: Validating (X)HTML + ARIA: http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=107 Written by Steve Faulkner, Technical Director - TPG (The Paciello Group) Europe, Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium from his blog.

Re: [WSG] Validating (X)HTML + ARIA

2009-01-19 Thread Anthony Ziebell
Is it true XHTML 1.1 supports modularization and thus, ARIA, except for the role attribute / values? XHTML 1.1 (latest draft) allows XHTML 1.1 to be served as text/html as defined in RFC2854 or application/xhtml+xml as defined in RFC3236. This is exciting as it looks like we are so close to