Re: [WSG] Certified Usable

on posting to the list getting help ** -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] jump menu method

You must have been using GET rather than POST.Spider's won't submit forms that us POST, but they have every right to follow forms that use GET. http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/04/24/deviant.html http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/2005/05/06/This-Stuff-Matters -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http

Re: [WSG] Screenshot tool

www.browsercam.com On 6/20/05, Colm Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to locate that really handy site that allow you to preview screenshots of your webpage on all browser/platform combinations. Does anyone know the URL. Regards, Colm -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd

Re: [WSG] Gnews - THREAD CLOSED

Guys I really can't see how this dicussion relates to web standards. This is an ad for a product. Sure the output validates and there are W3C logos in the footer, but seriously -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com

[WSG] Fwd: [cfaussie] ANZ Regional User Group Meeting Next Wednesday 16th Feb 6pm for 7pm Star City

, so they should be interesting by 7. See you there! Robin Hilliard ANZ Macromedia User Group Coordinator --- -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Standards?

there for a client not to like? I think we probably agree here - the technical detail of hows it done is your problem, not theirs. They just want to know about the end result in practical terms they can understand. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com

Re: [WSG] Standards?

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Re: [WSG] Search Engines and CSS

if this thread is relevant on this list though - if you are seriously interested in discussing google - go to the Google News forum on Web master world. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Is sending abusive spam doing standards good or harm?

was probably not the best idea. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] XSLT on client-side (was: making money out of web standards)

extent XSL) are all true web standards and are completely relevant on this list, IMHO. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] HOW DO I KNOW THAT MY HTML FILE HEADER IS BEING SENT CORRECTLY?

Hi Charles Download Firefox (if you haven't already) and then install the LiveHTTPHeaders plug in (http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/). Restart Firefox and LiveHTTPHeaders will then be under the tools menu and all your headers will be revealed. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http

Re: [WSG] W3C what are they doing ?

on using the web. its not perfect, but it has got us where we are today and I certainly don't think there is some crisis looming. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Standards Macromedia Contribute

are mutually exclusive, which is very misleading. There is nothing about the Dreamweaver template system that doesn't conform with XHTML. Dreamweavers templating works through the use of comments - nothing more. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com

Re: [WSG] Standards Macromedia Contribute

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Re: [WSG] i want to unsubcribe plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: [WSG] why oh why

Hi Clayton I think we have assertained that the issue is not present in Firefox 1. This thread has now been closed - please do not respond further. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Correct use of fieldset

bear in mind that there are rarely absolute right and wrong answers and its easy to get trapped in a cycle of navel gazing and splitting hairs - check http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2004/08/04/sq.html for beautiful example. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com

Re: [WSG] Customers who won't pay

as a learning experience and never start work on a project until you have a documented signed off specification for what you are building and a contract that commits the client to paying for it. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com

Re: [WSG][THREAD CLOSED] Customers who won't pay

For the second time THIS THREAD IS CLOSED - please respond off-list if you wish to continue the discussion. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Correct use of fieldset

. This is basically the same as using tables for visual layout. If you can do the same thing using more appropriate elements and some CSS, you'll be blessed with eternal good karma and will be worshipped as a standards guru by the millions of list members. Enjoy. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http

Re: [WSG] Correct use of fieldset

Sorry missed one part of your post: For example, can it be uses to group a number of related links together? I'd suggest that Fieldset in this context is meaningless - its not ArchorSet, its FieldSet - its for form fields. Use a list (ul or ol) for links. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd

Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

Sorry again... every column is as skinny as it can get. I've got about 80 columns in the table :( -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

on a new page (like excel does), rather than just cutting it off. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

[WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

anyone have any ideas no how to fix this issue? -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

Thanks Neerav I've got rid of everything I can and reduced the fonts as much as I dare and its still 300px too wide for a landscape A4. I've tried setting widths to auto, 100%, px - nothing makes a difference. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com

Re: [WSG] [OT] NZ vs Aust

Hey Mike Going this far off topic on this list is a bannable offence - your only option now, if you wish to stay on this list, is to set up a WSG meeting in NZ. (Only kidding about the banning, but please give the meeting idea some thought.) -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http

Re: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite

I think that only for stolen sites comment is a little off. For example I'll often develop something on my local machine on a URL like http://localhost/project-name and then deploy it on its own URL. base is invaluable in this sort of situation. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http

Re: [WSG] Web Accessability, SEO, Bookmarking - mod_rewrite

convinience. And sometimes its pretty handy. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

Re: [WSG] FYI

Also - http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/26/1090693888524.html Firefox has been getting some good press recently. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Critique please

for a class name. Describe *why* the data in presented the way it is, rather than describing the presentation. 9.5 out of 10. Good stuff. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] I've done it again ...

that is nice public and administrable by all WSG memebers. Come on guys - lets make it a worth while resouce! Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Hiding email address from spambots with CSS

) the more you lose on accessibility. Spam has to be stopped on delivery - hiding email addresses is a bandaid solution and a poor one at that. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Hiding email address from spambots with CSS

Of course. The point is just to make it more difficult. A car alarm doesn't stop car theft, but with all else equal, the thief will choose one without an alarm. That's fine true but by making it difficult for spam bots you also make it difficult for your users. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty

Re: [WSG] [THREAD CLOSED] Re: web standards related rss feeds?

Hi Neerav I think this is an excellent idea I've got lots of great feeds that I'd like to share I'm sure others do to. The reason I'm closing it is because I don't think the list is the best place for this resource - I'd like to find somewhere more permanent on the site for it. I'm going to

Re: [WSG] Re: web standards related rss feeds?

Hey All I've creaked a Standards related feeds category in the resources on section on the site - http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat32. Feel free to add links to RSS Atom feeds there. I've taken the liberty of adding the ones already posted to this thread under the names of those who

Re: [WSG] Must Read - THREAD CLOSED

Sorry to be a wet blanket guys but this has little or no bearing on web standards. From: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm The mail list does not cover: * Non-Web Standards related issues and support * Discussion of server-side

Re: [WSG] Standard Hacks?

+hacks Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org

[WSG] HTML email - mac testers please

in advance. Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] HTML email - mac testers please

they look at an HTML email and then testing in that environment. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] HTML email - mac testers please

) at least I know what I'm aiming for. Thanks for testing in those browsers - I'll go back to the designers and see what they think. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto

[WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?

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Re: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list

grumpy all the time. Cheers Mark - Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion

Guys hate to rain on your parade but if your browser can understand that obfuscation what makes you think that a email address harvestor is not going to be able to? These guys are writing complex viruses that harvest email addresses directly from people's Outlook contact lists, surely they can

Re: [WSG] Should web standards cost more?

Hey Jackie I agree with you and think maybe I just didn't explain myself properly. A guy in high school who has made a site for his uncle and one for his soccer team is not going to be able to charge the same rate as someone who has been developing site professionally for a number of years. I

Re: [WSG] Should web standards cost more?

Hey Guys This is a service industry, provide cost based on how much the will cost you to do (i.e. long the work takes you to do). Implementing standards may save you time or add extra development time. For example I feel that CSS based design takes less time and as such should cost less that a

Re: [WSG]

Hi Taco I really don't know the answers to your questions, but thats never stopped me from trying to answer them in the past so why now? But before I do can I just point out that this is coming off the top of my head from 5 minutes research on the web. I'm a geek, not a lawyer. Are there

Re: [WSG] Tables are bad because...

Hi John I don't want to weigh into this argument of tables right or wrong - I think all the angles are being covered pretty well at the moment. But I read your post a couple of things jumped out at me. On the whole it's a good read I agree with a lot of what you are saying bit this section:

Re: [WSG] height problem

Hi Razvan I'd suggest the best option would be to make it a background image on the body tag. Your body tag is going to be your top level containing block so it will always stretch to the height of your content. relative height: properties are always going to be relative to your viewport or

Re: [WSG] Vertical Height Alignment Issues

Hi Please see the list guildines at http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm. If you want a solution to your problem the guidlines will explain what information you are going to need to provide in order to help us help you. Cheers Mark

Re: [WSG] height problem

Thanks Patrick Yes you are right about html being the top level container, but I guess I was thinking about visible area - I never realised that you could style the html. Will try this out for sure. Cheers Mark * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] title question

I tried, in all my accessibility lovingness to add title tags to some images on a page today and it is telling me that the title tag is not allowed by the dtd and it won't parse the page. I'm assuming that you are talking about the title= attribute rather than the title tag? I tried the

Re: [WSG] What am I doing wrong with the CSS here

Hi Brian I've checked your site in both IE Firebird and have run it through the CSS HTML validators (one HTML page fails), but I still can't see the problem. Descriptions such as everything has gone wacky, things to display completely differently and broken something somewhere are not really

Re: [WSG] [OT] UniversalHead blog

Hey Guys All I get is an advertising page. Looks as though your domain name registration hasn't taken yet. You should be able to set up your own local DNS entry to do the job in the interim i, all we need is the IP address from Peter a text editor. 1) Find a file on your computer called

Re: [WSG] What am I doing wrong with the CSS here

Hey Brian Okay in Moz everything on the MAIN page http://www.mosincorporated.com/site2/main.php is okay except for the white field with the scrollbars - this div expands pit about 8 pixels further than it should - the white of the menu side should be used as a guide as to what this side

Re: [WSG] MovableType virgin

Hi Andy No offence, but discussion of specific server side products is off topic. Please check out the some the MT resource sites (http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8q=moveable+type+%28resources+OR+tutorial+OR+learning%29btnG=Search) or the MT homepage

Re: [WSG] Please take a look at this page.

Hi Kevin I don't have a access to NS6 on a mac, but just a friendly word of advice: Please try to be more descriptive if you really want to get your problem solved. Firstly use a nice descriptive subject line so that people can quickly decide whether or not they are able to assist - I would

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML, CSS Validation Tools on Linux !

I know the W3C validator is available as a Debian package (the link checker is also part of the package) - we've got it running locally here. The source of the HTML CSS validators are available if thats the sort of thing you are looking for. http://validator.w3.org/source/

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML, CSS Validation Tools on Linux !

Sorry - one other thing I forgot to mention... Tidy: http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/ http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ Cheers Mark * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Question on javascript

I agree with Ryan - coding for specific browsers is a futile excerise. We do use javascript quite a bit but its usually to provide additional funcitonality to users who are able to handle it. The empahsis is on people still being able to use the site without javascript. This could include things

[WSG] XHTML considered useful

Well at least someone has found a use for it - http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/05/02/user-friendly-feeds Cheers Mark PS Sorry for being a troll, but i couldn't resist - please take it in good humour. * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] XML Includes?

Hey Scott The doctype that you are using: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; doesn't contain the elements that you are using in your code: window titlebarmycontent/titlebar contentmycontent/content /window ...so your

Re: [WSG] Improved digest format

I believe there is an Atom feed that you might find more useful. Most blog readers should handle it. http://discuss.webstandardsgroup.org/atom.xml Cheers Mark * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Compliant tree menu

There is some pretty nice code available at http://www.qld.gov.au/web/cue/template/implementations.html that sounds close to what you want. It doesn't remember last state but it does generate some very nice tight simple markup, works across a range of browers and degrades well in the absences of

Re: [WSG] New Site launch: Jands

Hey Peter I haven't checked it out in depth, but I just wanted to say that from the quick glance I had, it looks stunning the code is pretty sharp to boot. Big congratulations! Cheers Mark * The discussion list for

RE: [WSG] XHTML Form + Label - Errors

:/label input id=name name=name type=text //p plabel for=emailEmail Address:/label input id=email name=emailtype=text //p You should be right! Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http

RE: [WSG] XHTML Form + Label - Errors

need to know is at w3c.org, it just takes time trying to understand it all. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com

[WSG] CSS the Linux documentation project

http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/03/30/0041253.shtml?tid=106tid=126t id=185tid=95 Very interesting - even if just to demonstrate how little most people understand about CSS. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458

RE: [WSG] Serving XHTML as application/xhtml+xml

not anti XHTML in any way - I've followed its development closely for a couple of years am very excited about the possibilities that has opened up. I don't feel the web is ready for it yet. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410

RE: [WSG] Serving XHTML as application/xhtml+xml

of the more responsible ones at the moment. I still don't think its worth the effort though. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] css from photoshop file?

be fine. If they design it like a brouchure or a CDROM you're in big trouble. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Usability Week 2004

and helping your staff. Now where's that rock I was hiding under Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion

RE: [WSG] opinions on use of css shorthand properties

redundant because they are the default values. Unless you have reset these values previously, you don't need to set them to their default values. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

[WSG] More links for light reading

How to debug CSS: http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/03/10/css_problems/index.php Google goes anti semantic (h1's are to easily abused): http://www.sitepoint.com/article/brandy-google-update Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956

RE: [WSG] Definition list wish

-html/2002Aug/thread.html#240 Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

and one for implementation issues? Anyway its an open issue at the moment - we're still trying to find the right mix. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

is ok). I'm not meaning to be harsh but we need to be considerate of those that are concerned about mail volume. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Table style definition lists

have a fix for it, I'm just trying to help illustrate the problem. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion

RE: [WSG] Table style definition lists

Mate - I've been looking at br hr - but I've got to ask myself why bother with definition lists at all if I've got to hack to get it to look right. Thanks for all your help - I think its time to go back to tables vertical alignment :( Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton

RE: [WSG] A bit OT: Narrrgh - pulling out hair

loaded into the movie? I don't know enough about flash https to be able to say more than that though. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] A bit OT: Narrrgh - pulling out hair

Think about it - if I made a page that was https then had an iframe that was http from another server The user thinks they are getting https but in fact they are not. IE does go over the top though - anything linked will do it (images, etc..). Cheers Mark -- Mark

RE: [WSG] XHTML Basic 1.0

guess these guys weren't keen to have to support all the features of XHTML when people only really use about 30% of it. The emphasis in DENG is that its very light weight - so this kind of makes sense. Basic is there to cater to this type of scenario. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton

RE: [WSG] Aural Property in CSS2???

of interesting stuff in there. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Aural Property in CSS2???

? cringe/ + If you really need sound - don't have it play automatically. Make the user click a play button or something. (Just a personal opinion). Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http

RE: [WSG] Cache Tutorial

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[WSG] Cache Tutorial

Very nice thorough article on how web caching works and how it can be used wisely. http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/ Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Cache Tutorial

to test the results out. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Can a list have one item?

on this one !ELEMENT ul (li)+ A+ = A must occur one or more times. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion

RE: [WSG] WHYYY??? WHYYYY???

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RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2821/page2.html Adobe seem to have dumped this little gem from their site :( Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

don't know. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Help with a bit of code plz

Cols is the number of column that you want in your text areas (similar to rows) and depending on your doctype - it may be required. So if you want 50 columns in your text areas you have to add cols=50. hth Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel

RE: [WSG] W3C VALIDATORS

- the author should NOT force this down their throats. The Internet should be a user's medium not an author's medium. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Strange IE5 Mac rendering - should be right now!

Hey Martin We use host headers to run multiple sites from the 1 IP address so this is not an option :( Anyway I think the DNS has resolved now, but if it hasn't you can try http://basketsgalore.gruden.com. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel

RE: [WSG] Strange IE5 Mac rendering

Thanks Chris Width on the para fixed it. Kinda odd though isn't it? Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Special Sydney WSG Meeting!

. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] Programmer's Challenge [Virus checkedAU]

Sounds like another job for Google's pigeons... http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

RE: [WSG] Flowchart using CSS

in the longdesc attribute. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

RE: [WSG] document type does not allow element error

up you get a message that looks a lot like your one (document type does not allow element X here). However that message is cryptic to the point of being nonsense, so we'll have to see your code to be able to give you a proper answer. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical

Reading DTDs - WAS: RE: [WSG] document type does not allow element error

://www.ldodds.com/delta/dtd_guide.html http://archive.devx.com/projectcool/developer/xmlz/xmldtd/reading.html#paren t-child Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

[WSG] more usable forms

Nice article on making forms a bit nicer. http://www.sitepoint.com/article/1273 Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com

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