[WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Guys and Gals, There's certainly a mass of hype surrounding Ruby these days. It raises this question for me. I usually still use classic ASP for my server-side stuff, but have begun playing with PHP as well, since ASP is obviously over whether its a good tool or not. Now Ruby is pounding

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Stephen Stagg
In my, suitably humble, opinion, PHP 'is a good thing' and so I'm going to keep using it for the foreseeable future. The only thing that'll make me really use RUBY is when people start wanting sites upgraded when they are already using it. This may come across as a bit of a

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Svip
As far as I have read and tried Ruby, it is basically just a new language, in my opinion PHP is still the best Server Side Language around, but perhaps I should do some more tries on Ruby as I have thus far. Besides, Ruby on Rails is a simple form of Ruby, where very little programming is

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Wayne Douglas
Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: [...] since ASP is obviously over whether its a good tool or not. [...] Thanks, www.asp.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Martin Heiden
Joseph, on Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 15:49 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: I usually still use classic ASP for my server-side stuff, but have begun playing with PHP as well, since ASP is obviously over whether its a good tool or not. Now Ruby is pounding on my door, claiming to be the

RE: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Peter Goddard
a course in Ruby, I'll happily change my arguments :) So that makes you qualified to speak then? Hmm Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph R. B. Taylor Sent: 26 January 2006 14:50 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] ASP, PHP

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Tom Livingston
On 1/26/06 11:20 AM, Peter Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the only serious rival to Java and PHP. ColdFusion is a much easier language and far more powerful... -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread James Bennett
On 1/26/06, Svip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, Ruby on Rails is a simple form of Ruby, where very little programming is required, but gives you less control of it, in my opinion. But I thank thee again for bring up the language in question. No, Ruby on Rails is a framework built in Ruby

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Ok, SORRY for starting this thread, I didn't intend to start a classic argument over server languages. I just wanted to get a feel for how many of us standards guys are adopting Ruby, or they plan to stick with PHP/other in the foreseeable future. Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Jan Brasna
It's not about Ruby or PHP, this is not a case for a language. Only frameworks matter. So the standards guys just pick a RAD (aka just add water...) framemork, be it Ruby on Rails for Ruby or CakePHP (Symfony, Claw, Zephyr) for PHP, that are pretty much the same effective. -- Jan Brasna ::

Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread Justin Owens
ColdFusion is built in Java... On 1/26/06, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/26/06 11:20 AM, Peter Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the only serious rival to Java and PHP. ColdFusion is a much easier language and far more powerful... -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia

Thread Closed : Re: [WSG] ASP, PHP and Ruby - oh my!

2006-01-26 Thread James Ellis
Hi all I'm closing this thread as it is off topic for the list. Feel free to discuss the use of server side languages in relation to web standards on the list. X vs Y is better left off the list as it really has nothing to do with web standards (read the guidelines). Thanks James --- admin. On