Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-26 Thread Isabel Santos
Well Martin, I got to the conclusion that there is no standard way to get rid of thespace bitween the two frames in a standard way: cellspacing=0 is out of xhtml, and no css style will take away that space, so out with the frames, I'll make the header a php include. As for the extending issue, I

[WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Ok, maybe I'm being lazy, I'm googling for a good tutorial or exemples on the subject, and all I find is theory, so here it goes: I recently got a job as a web designer in a company whose site has previous decades markup. Apart from that I do all the companys graphic work, so time is short. The

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Christian Montoya
If you want to use frames you have to use the frames doctype. And only the frames doctype. It should include everything you want to use.Now, in my opinion, you should try to redesign the frames structure in PHP, and do the top frame as a PHP include. Then you can even fix it on the page with CSS

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Thank you Christian, making the top frame a php include sounds like an excelent idea. The markee I was thinking in turning it a flash object, since there is already a flashmovie in the first page it shoudn't be a problem for users, I think it uses less processing resources. From what I've read

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
If you keep the frames-based layout and go with a frameset DTD for the frameset and a Strict DTD for the framed documents, you'll run into these problems: 1. IE will create an horizontal scrollbar in your top frame. The fix for this is to use scrolling=yes (I know it's weird). 2. To use target

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Christian Montoya
Using flash for the marquee sounds like a great idea, and will probably be more attractive. I couldn't find the search page you were talking about. Could you give me a link directly to it? On 9/24/05, Isabel Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Christian, making the top frame a php include

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Well Christian, it is not a search page, is a search engine, you can find its form at the top of this page: http://www.ocean-wings.com/principal.htm And the first time I looked at this site I didn't notice that the oval circlesat the animation on the first page were actually links to get in the

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Christian Montoya
Oh wow, that page is going to give me a seizure. I can't look at it anymore. You were saying the client doesn't want to change the look of the site, because it has such a loyal user base. I think the users like the site because it is very useful for them, not because of the appearance. I don't

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
Hi Thierry, thank you very mutch! I still dont know how to extend the DTD, but you are giving me very good reasons not even to try it. (I hate when things get weird :) ). That's quite helpfull! There is always a good reason why experienced designers do not use some structures, I think I'll stick

Re: [WSG] Extending xhtml strict to include frameset and target

2005-09-24 Thread Isabel Santos
:) Oh wow, that page is going to give me a seizure. I can't look at it anymore. Like I said, unrecomended for epileptics... (there areaccessibility rules on blinking gifs) Yet the bliking lights have an important meaning for them: They represent the landing lights for airplanes, off if the