Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-18 Thread Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel
Il 17/10/21 19:03, Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel ha scritto: On 17/10/2021 21:38, Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel wrote: Il 17/10/21 17:31, Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel ha scritto: On

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-17 Thread Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel
On 17/10/2021 21:38, Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel wrote: Il 17/10/21 17:31, Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel ha scritto: On 17/10/2021 21:11, Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel wrote: Il 17/10/21 16:52, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) ha scritto: Hi Marco: Did you follow the steps to record a reference

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-17 Thread Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel
Il 17/10/21 17:31, Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel ha scritto: On 17/10/2021 21:11, Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel wrote: Il 17/10/21 16:52, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) ha scritto: Hi Marco:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-17 Thread Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel
On 17/10/2021 21:11, Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel wrote: Il 17/10/21 16:52, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) ha scritto: Hi Marco: Did you follow the steps to record a reference spectrum first?  You have to record a minute or so of noise in order for the program to be able to compute gain figures

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-17 Thread Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel
Il 17/10/21 16:52, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) ha scritto: Hi Marco: Did you follow the steps to record a reference spectrum first?  You have to record a minute or so of noise in order for the program to be able to compute gain figures which are then used to flatten frequency response.  I am not

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-17 Thread Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) via wsjt-devel
Hi Marco: Did you follow the steps to record a reference spectrum first? You have to record a minute or so of noise in order for the program to be able to compute gain figures which are then used to flatten frequency response. I am not sure what would happen if you activated reference

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-16 Thread Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel
Il 16/10/21 17:30, Kevin McQuiggin via wsjt-devel ha scritto: Hi All: There is a pretty good article on the why and how of reference spectrum use by Bob KA1GT at http://www.bobatkins.com/radio/WSJTX_flatten.html.  His site is

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-16 Thread Kevin McQuiggin via wsjt-devel
Hi All: There is a pretty good article on the why and how of reference spectrum use by Bob KA1GT at http://www.bobatkins.com/radio/WSJTX_flatten.html. His site is targeted primarily at EME and UHF-and-above users, but the information applies to use of the reference spectrum at HF as well.

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-16 Thread Patrick 9A5CW via wsjt-devel
Hi Bill, I will take a look into the manual and I will try to measure it. 73, Patrik 9A5CW On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 10:18 PM Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On 16/10/2021 21:09, Patrick 9A5CW via wsjt-devel wrote: > > Hi Reino, > > no you are wrong,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-16 Thread Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel
On 16/10/2021 21:09, Patrick 9A5CW via wsjt-devel wrote: Hi Reino, no you are wrong, the filter is wide enough, and I never pressed any buttons on my old IC706mk2 radio. I rarely use any kind of filter on JT digi modes, as narrow as I can go is 1800 Hz and that's only when I have high noise.

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-16 Thread Hasan N0AN via wsjt-devel
I can replicate the problem. It doesn't change decoding, but it does change the SNR to a false high number. Simply unchecking RefSpec and going to Flatten, makes the problem go away. (It is most noticeable on HF , where I run FT8 a;; the time.) I have not checked it for any other mode. I'll

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-16 Thread Bill Somerville via wsjt-devel
Hi Hasan and Rich, a couple of points worth considering: 1) the "Flatten" filter has no impact on decoding whatsoever, so having "Flatten" checked or not will not change SNR numbers reported, 2) many rigs have considerable roll-off in receiver gain towards the bottom end of the expected

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-16 Thread Hasan N0AN via wsjt-devel
The cause here for that was using Ref Spec instead of Flatten . I chased it for weeks, it has no effect on decoding, but produces silly high SNR if below 400 Hz or so. Simply uncheck Ref Spec in the Waterfall controls, and go back to "Flatten" and I bet the problem goes away. 73, N0AN Hasan On

Re: [wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-15 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
I can see the opposite possibility in this data.  Looks like below 300 the levels are low, high from about 300-400, then pretty consistent Red line here is 50-point moving average of 5000 points.  Above 2200 we're getting into the region where bandpass limits might have an effect of some sort

[wsjt-devel] Exaggerated reports given to lower tone freqs

2021-10-15 Thread Rich - K1HTV via wsjt-devel
Has anyone experienced exaggerated dB signal reports given by WSJT-X to decoded FT8 signals of stations transmitting tone frequencies below 500 Hz? I use a K3 with 2.8 KHz filter using WSJT-X Version 2.5.0 . I have also seen this in earlier versions. When stations using low audio tones are