RE: I-D Action:draft-hammer-discovery-02.txt

2009-03-04 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: Please discuss on the www-talk@w3.org list. For those who have read previous revisions (thanks!), please note that except for Appendix B, the rest of the spec was significantly changed and a fresh read is recommended. Thanks, EHL

RE: Origin vs Authority; use of HTTPS (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-23 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
such assurances. EHL -Original Message- From: a...@adambarth.com [mailto:a...@adambarth.com] On Behalf Of Adam Barth Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:57 AM To: Breno de Medeiros Cc: Ben Laurie; Mark Nottingham; Eran Hammer-Lahav; www-talk@w3.org Subject: Re: Origin vs Authority; use

Re: Origin vs Authority; use of HTTPS (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-23 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
On 2/23/09 11:46 AM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: Reality is not as binary as you imply. There are a spectrum of threat models corresponding to different attacker abilities. Exactly! And I am already aware of one effort looking to add a trust layer to host-meta. Your suggestion of

FW: I-D Action:draft-hammer-discovery-02.txt

2009-02-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Please discuss on the www-talk@w3.org list. For those who have read previous revisions (thanks!), please note that except for Appendix B, the rest of the spec was significantly changed and a fresh read is recommended. Thanks, EHL -- Forwarded Message From: internet-dra...@ietf.org

RE: host-meta file format comments (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Thomas Roessler [mailto:t...@w3.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:06 PM BTW, I notice that this draft is silent on the HTTP header syntax's combining feature for multiple occurences of the same field (last paragraph of 4.2, RFC 2616); I suspect that

Re: Origin vs Authority; use of HTTPS (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
How about clearly identifying the threat in the spec instead of making this a requirement? EHL On 2/11/09 10:14 AM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: In particular, you should require that the host-meta file

Re: Origin vs Authority; use of HTTPS (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Your approach is wrong. Host-meta should not be trying to address such security concerns. Applications making use of it should. There are plenty of applications where no one care about security. Obviously, crossdomain.xml needs to be secure, since, well, it is all about that. But copyright

Re: Origin vs Authority; use of HTTPS (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
is mailto. HTTP can talk about any URI, not just http URIs. Since this is about *how* /host-meta is obtained, it should talk about protocol, not scheme. EHL On 2/11/09 10:18 AM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com

Re: Origin vs Authority; use of HTTPS (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
, this leads to a race to the bottom where no user agents can be both popular and secure. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: How about clearly identifying the threat in the spec instead of making this a requirement? EHL On 2/11/09 10:14 AM, Adam Barth w

Re: Origin vs Authority; use of HTTPS (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
On 2/11/09 12:38 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: There is nothing incorrect about: GET mailto:j...@example.com HTTP/1.1 I don't know how to get a Web browser to generate such a request, so I am unable

RE: host-meta file format comments (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
(not sure how my work email got into this thread... but please replace it with this one) From: Mark Nottingham [mailto:m...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:21 PM On 11/02/2009, at 12:38 AM, Thomas Roessler wrote: As with HTTP headers, field-names are not case-sensitive,

RE: Origin vs Authority; use of HTTPS (draft-nottingham-site-meta-01)

2009-02-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Mark Nottingham [mailto:m...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:31 PM My understanding of the discussion's resolution was that this is not a goal for this spec any more; i.e., if there's any boundary-hopping, it will be defined by the

RE: Inconsistencies in Discovery methods

2009-02-07 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
On Feb 07, 2009 11:49 AM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: On Feb 6, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: A 404 response can have an entity-body, which you defined as representation of a resource on the server that describes that error. So a Link header on a 404

Inconsistencies in Discovery methods

2009-02-06 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
In HTTP-based Resource Descriptor Discovery [1], I am trying to define a uniform way to attach metadata (descriptors) to resources. The idea is to define three methods for obtaining the location (URI) of the descriptor document via the resource (URI or representation). All three methods use the

RE: Inconsistencies in Discovery methods

2009-02-06 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
This solves my problem with regard to the Link header. On Feb 06, 2009 4:41 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: The Link header field defines what it is about: [RFC2068] The Link entity-header field provides a means for describing a relationship between two resources,

RE: Request for feedback: HTTP-based Resource Descriptor Discovery

2009-02-01 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
URI to the HTML document. But it suffers from the same ambiguity. The problem, of course, is find a way to define it in an interoperable way. EHL -Original Message- From: Jonathan Rees [mailto:j...@creativecommons.org] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:55 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav

Re: Request for feedback: HTTP-based Resource Descriptor Discovery

2009-01-31 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Thanks for the feedback. It is extremely useful. Please note that I have already published a -01 revision last week which addressed some of these concerns. See my comments below. On 1/29/09 6:56 AM, Jonathan Rees j...@creativecommons.org wrote: - Please do not say 'resource discovery' as

Re: Comments of the site-meta draft

2009-01-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Thanks Ashok, this is very helpful (and timely). Replies inline. On 1/12/09 1:31 PM, ashok malhotra ashok.malho...@oracle.com wrote: The TAG asked me to review the site-meta draft: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-site-meta-00 Comments below. These are my personal comments and

RE: Discovery spec draft published

2009-01-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:45 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: www-talk@w3.org Subject: Re: Discovery spec draft published Hi Eran, thanks for putting this together. I might have more comments in the future, but I wanted to let you know the first hiccup I encountered when reading the document. I

Re: Discovery spec draft published

2009-01-10 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
] *Sent:* Friday, January 09, 2009 3:45 PM *To:* Eran Hammer-Lahav *Cc:* www-talk@w3.org *Subject:* Re: Discovery spec draft published Hi Eran, thanks for putting this together. I might have more comments in the future, but I wanted to let you know the first hiccup I encountered when reading

Re: Fallback flow for /site-meta for top level domains

2008-12-04 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Mark Nottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:35 PM So, I see roughly three ways forward here; 1) We can explore expanding the scope of site-meta to be more like 'domain-meta'. There is nothing in /site-meta (other

Re: Fallback flow for /site-meta for top level domains

2008-12-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
(It seems like the mailing list is dropping all my emails sent from my hueniverse.com account, which means only about 4-5 of you have seen my side of the conversation for the past few days. I am working to correct this. This is an attempt to recover some of those lost conversations) From: Breno

Fallback flow for /site-meta for top level domains

2008-11-29 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
(sorry for potential duplicates, I'm having problems posting to the list) This issue was brought up by Google. There are many cases where the HTTP server for example.com resides at www.example.com. Should /site-meta specify that if a top level domain returns a 404 for a GET /site-meta, the