Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de

Am 16.02.2012 09:28, schrieb Oleksandr Shneyder:



I was hoping I could dump the sessions file into a central folder, say,
c:\program files\x2goclient\, but that won't work if cache files will be
stored in the same directory.

I don't think that it's good idea. You can create a file with session
settings and copy it to home folder of each user


That becomes a royal pain in the lower back when you have to change 
something in the session file...


-Stefan
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread Oleksandr Shneyder
Am 16.02.2012 09:31, schrieb newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de:
 Am 16.02.2012 09:28, schrieb Oleksandr Shneyder:

 I was hoping I could dump the sessions file into a central folder, say,
 c:\program files\x2goclient\, but that won't work if cache files will be
 stored in the same directory.
 I don't think that it's good idea. You can create a file with session
 settings and copy it to home folder of each user
 
 That becomes a royal pain in the lower back when you have to change
 something in the session file...

Sorry, in my opinion the session settings are very user specific and
should be not saved centrally. You can write a simple shell script to
copy template file with session settings into directories of each user
on system.

 -Stefan
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] (no subject)

2012-02-16 Thread Oleksandr Shneyder
Am 16.02.2012 10:45, schrieb Basma Mcharek Boussif:
 Hello developers,
 
  
 
 One of our clients, Andries Noback, had the following problem, today,
 with our application, while using x2go.
 
 The font size in the application decreased while the connection was
 established through x2go.
 
 This problem ceased to exist, once connecting with goglobal though. 
 
  
 
 In case of question, please refer to our client in the cc-ed e-mail adress.
 
  
 
 cheers,
 
 Besma
 
  

hello,

I think, this is because of different DPI on your local X-Server and
x2goagent.
you can specify DPI *for new X2GO Session* in x2go session settings dialog.

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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread Moritz Struebe

Am 16.02.2012 09:38, schrieb Oleksandr Shneyder:

Sorry, in my opinion the session settings are very user specific and
should be not saved centrally. You can write a simple shell script to
copy template file with session settings into directories of each user
on system.


I do disagree somewhat. Depending on your system configuration it might 
be reasonable to put the configuration at some place and have the .cache 
at $TEMP. Besides that, adjusting this shouldn't be too much trouble.
That said, I do not want to suggest that you, Alex, need to implement 
this, but should be open to someone (Stefan?) providing a patch.


Cheers
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread Moritz Struebe

Am 16.02.2012 11:36, schrieb newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de:
Sorry, but if I knew enough C/C++ to patch x2goclient I'd do it, 
instead of asking stupid questions on the list. ;-)


I'm sure Alex or someone else can be persuaded by money. ;)



Out of curiousity: How is this solved in thinclient mode on Linux, by 
the way? 


The home dir is extracted to Ramdisk. As the x2goclient is the only 
application running in X there is no way to alter files except through 
x2goclient.


Cheers
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de

Am 16.02.2012 11:40, schrieb Moritz Struebe:

Am 16.02.2012 11:36, schrieb newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de:
Sorry, but if I knew enough C/C++ to patch x2goclient I'd do it, 
instead of asking stupid questions on the list. ;-)


I'm sure Alex or someone else can be persuaded by money. ;)


That kind of persuation is currently taking place for another beloved 
feature request of mine, I was just hoping that a centrally-stored 
session file might be possible as an interim solution. ;-)

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Re: [X2Go-Dev] Packaging nx-libs (aka x2goagent) for your distro

2012-02-16 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi John,

On Mi 15 Feb 2012 21:34:30 CET John Williams wrote:


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mike Gabriel
mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de wrote:


yes, I have a tarball roller script:
http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=nx-libs.git;a=blob;f=bin/nx-tarballrelease;h=f0e772f0d2556acb2f24fa8aefefa1734cfd5087;hb=21155f218d7f0ce09ea0f2c905075dec4d4132b4



I tried your script, but I had an error message. I'm not familiar with
quilt, so I am not sure if I did something wrong or if there is an
error somewhere.

Here is the last bit of output from running your script:

patching file nx-X11/lib/xkbfile/Imakefile
patching file nx-X11/lib/xkbui/Imakefile
patching file nx-X11/lib/zlib/Imakefile
patching file nx-X11/programs/Xserver/Imakefile
Hunk #3 FAILED at 1012.
Hunk #4 succeeded at 1073 (offset -2 lines).
1 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- rejects in file nx-X11/programs/Xserver/Imakefile
patching file nx-X11/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/parser/Imakefile
patching file nxcompext/Makefile.in
patching file nxcompshad/Makefile.in
Patch  
doc/applied-patches/600_nx-X11+nxcompext+nxcompshad_unique-libnames.full.patch

does not apply (enforce with -f)
+ rm -f /tmp/tmp.XV8195vo1t
+ rm -rf /tmp/tmp.b4pEmIDX2f


The script is fixed:
http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=nx-libs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/nx-buildscripts

and also the patch file names within the nx-libs/debian/patches  
folder. (suffix was .diff, not .patch):

http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=nx-libs.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a6cf42d4b47b9f33372470a35f2dfbfc95cfabe
http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=nx-libs.git;a=commitdiff;h=e63819e64530f1b786e512e5f4e433ad845979b7

It was a dual problem. Update your script, update your working copy of  
nx-libs.git and then the script should work...


For a special version (redist-server/3.5.0.10) use:
$ nx-tarballrelease 3.5.0.10 server

For the latest stuff in Git use:
$ nx-tarballrelease HEAD server

The tarball will be stored in:
../_releases_/source/nx-libs/nx-libs_VERSION-full.tar.gz

Whereas VERSION is HEAD if ,,HEAD'' is used on the command line.

Thanks for noticing this,
Mike


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[X2Go-Dev] x2goagent listening on public interface - how to make it listen on 127.0.0.1 only?

2012-02-16 Thread BUGHUNTER
Hi,

unfortunately on x2go-users nobody was able to answer this question,
maybe here is anybody who knows how to fix this:

I am testing x2go - looks like a very good alternative to other
solutions!

However, I see that (only) when I am logged in via x2goclient I have
an x2goagent process listening on the server on all network interfaces
on port 6050 - I would feel better if this software did only listen on
127.0.0.1, if this is technically possible.

I did not found any hint on a listen 127.0.0.1 configuration item
and where to put it, if existing - how can I make x2goagent NOT listen
on a public network interface?

Thanks for your attention,
Bughunter

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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 09:38 +0100, Oleksandr Shneyder wrote:
 Am 16.02.2012 09:31, schrieb newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de:
  Am 16.02.2012 09:28, schrieb Oleksandr Shneyder:
 
  I was hoping I could dump the sessions file into a central folder, say,
  c:\program files\x2goclient\, but that won't work if cache files will be
  stored in the same directory.
  I don't think that it's good idea. You can create a file with session
  settings and copy it to home folder of each user
  
  That becomes a royal pain in the lower back when you have to change
  something in the session file...
 
 Sorry, in my opinion the session settings are very user specific and
 should be not saved centrally. You can write a simple shell script to
 copy template file with session settings into directories of each user
 on system.
snip
I wonder if a hierarchical approach is in order as many of the settings
may be completely the same for all users and it would be desirable to
centrally manage them.  The KDE KIOSK is a good model where settings can
be set centrally, environment variables can be substituted, settings can
be locked, but, if they are not locked, they can be overridden locally
with the most local version taking priority.  Just a thought.  I share
Stefan's pain :) - John

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Re: [X2Go-Dev] Packaging nx-libs (aka x2goagent) for your distro

2012-02-16 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Mike Gabriel
mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de wrote:
 The script is fixed:
 http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=nx-libs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/nx-buildscripts

 and also the patch file names within the nx-libs/debian/patches folder.
 (suffix was .diff, not .patch):
 http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=nx-libs.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a6cf42d4b47b9f33372470a35f2dfbfc95cfabe
 http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=nx-libs.git;a=commitdiff;h=e63819e64530f1b786e512e5f4e433ad845979b7

 It was a dual problem. Update your script, update your working copy of
 nx-libs.git and then the script should work...

 For a special version (redist-server/3.5.0.10) use:
 $ nx-tarballrelease 3.5.0.10 server

 For the latest stuff in Git use:
 $ nx-tarballrelease HEAD server

I used the args HEAD server and it worked great! Thanks for updating it.

That parallel-make patch is great, I was able to build the full
nx-libs distribution in about a minute! It used to take about 10
minutes.
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de

Am 16.02.2012 20:11, schrieb John A. Sullivan III:

snip
I wonder if a hierarchical approach is in order as many of the settings
may be completely the same for all users and it would be desirable to
centrally manage them.  The KDE KIOSK is a good model where settings can
be set centrally, environment variables can be substituted, settings can
be locked, but, if they are not locked, they can be overridden locally
with the most local version taking priority.  Just a thought.  I share
Stefan's pain :) - John
Then you will be happy to learn that Alex will soon start working on a 
paid-for (as in paid-by-me) extension to the X2Go client.
Step one, the short-term goal, will be the release of a client that 
allows for a seperate sessions file location.
Step two will be a published application mode similar to what you may 
or may not know from Citrix MetaFrame/Presentation 
Manager/whatever-their-nom-de-jour-is: A list of applications that will 
be defined on the server and presented to the user in drop-down-box 
style after login (right-click the .

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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de
Uh, glitch in the matrix? Sorry for the deja-vu, folks, somehow my mail 
client decided to send two copies of that message, only one being 
complete, though.

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Re: [X2Go-Dev] New major distribution builds available for X2go

2012-02-16 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Thursday 2012-02-16 09:06, Oleksandr Shneyder wrote:
 
 http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=nx-libs.git;a=commitdiff;h=07f9dfa05ab83e094e823b4af8478b25addd0fa5

Unfortunately, this patch breaking functionality of Xinerama. It rename
libXinerama* to libNX_Xinerama*, which make impossible for X clients to
find a modified version of Xinerama library under
/usr/lib/nx/X11/Xinerama and they using a system libXinerama instead.

Simple making links
/usr/lib/nx/X11/Xinerama/libNX_Xinerama* -
/usr/lib/nx/X11/Xinerama/libXinerama*
don't work, because due to new build procedure libXinerama is linked
against libNX_Xext and libNX_X11, not libXext and libX11.

I don't know about the Xinerama/ subdirectory, it does not get installed
by nx-libs.

But symlinking of /usr/lib/nx/X11/libXext.so.6 to
/usr/lib/nx/X11/libNX_Xext.so.6 should work (talking about LD_LIBRARY_PATH-
using programs) as long as the SONAME stays NX_Xext for automatic
dependency finding of rpm (and perhaps deb?).

As solution, I can suggest:

leave libNX_Xinerama* under /usr/lib/nx/X11/
make symbolic links /usr/lib/nx/X11/libNX_Xinerama* -
/usr/lib/nx/X11/Xinerama/libXinerama*

link system libraries libX11 and libXext into /usr/lib/nx/X11/Xinerama
/usr/lib/libX11* - /usr/lib/nx/X11/Xinerama/libNX_X11*
/usr/lib/libXext* - /usr/lib/nx/X11/Xinerama/libNX_Xext*

You cannot touch my xorg-x11 libs.
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de

Hi Alex,

another question regarding the Windows client and its portable mode:

Is everything in the C:\Program Files\x2goclient directory 
self-contained and not relying on absolute path names by default, or 
does a truly portable install require additional pre- or post-install 
tweaks?
In other words, can I copy/move the entire folder to another 
drive/medium (Network share, USB memory stick, CD-ROM,...) and it should 
still work?


I don't care about the entries in the start menu, these can easily be 
(re)created with a script if needed.
The reason why I'm asking is that this would allow for a central update 
location in a LAN when a new client version gets released:
Either run the client directly from the network share, or have a script 
copy the contents onto the client machines.


I'm aware the installer has the /S option for a silent install, but 
having a single copy on a network share (or simply copying updated files 
over to the clients using robocopy or xcopy) seems easier than a 
scripted update on $BIGNUM client machines.
(where $BIGNUM in my case is currently roughly 30 LANs with 5-15 client 
machines each, with more to come each month).


-Stefan
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Stefan,

On Fr 17 Feb 2012 01:27:57 CET newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de wrote:


Hi Alex,

another question regarding the Windows client and its portable mode:

Is everything in the C:Program Filesx2goclient directory  
self-contained and not relying on absolute path names by default,  
or does a truly portable install require additional pre- or  
post-install tweaks?
In other words, can I copy/move the entire folder to another  
drive/medium (Network share, USB memory stick, CD-ROM,...) and it  
should still work?


You could try it out and report here?!? And if your experiments fail,  
you could ask again?!? Your success stories being documented in the  
wiki would be an awesome thing to occur!!!


Thanks,
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] ATTN: Alex - Questions regarding x2goclient.exe --portable and session specification

2012-02-16 Thread newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de

Am 17.02.2012 07:27, schrieb Mike Gabriel:

Hi Stefan,

On Fr 17 Feb 2012 01:27:57 CET newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de wrote:


Hi Alex,

another question regarding the Windows client and its portable mode:

Is everything in the C:Program Filesx2goclient directory 
self-contained and not relying on absolute path names by default, 
or does a truly portable install require additional pre- or 
post-install tweaks?
In other words, can I copy/move the entire folder to another 
drive/medium (Network share, USB memory stick, CD-ROM,...) and it 
should still work?


You could try it out and report here?!? And if your experiments fail, 
you could ask again?!? 


Uh, no. Works for me when it wasn't designed for it isn't a suitable 
base for a commercial deployment. I'm not taking any chances here. 
There's just too much involved that may make it work on my system, yet 
break at the customers' sites.
If Alex says it *should* work, from his knowedge and understanding of 
x2goclients' internal working, then I will test and report back any errors.



Your success stories being documented in the wiki would be an awesome 
thing to occur!!!


I *am* updating the wiki with information gathered re: x2goclient.exe as 
my time permits - but just as in your case, my time is limited and I 
have to prioritize some tasks over others. So before embarking on an 
hours-long testing trip, I'd like to know if it's worth my time or if 
I'm wasting it, because what I'm trying out is not supported anyway.


-Stefan
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