Re: RFC: make menu implementations tolerant of vendor changes

2012-04-13 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 11 April 2012 23:38, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Le mercredi 11 avril 2012, à 15:32 -0400, Bill Nottingham a écrit : In Fedora, we've had the issue where some desktop files were incorrectly shipped with a vendor prefix. Due to the fact that the file name often is used as a

xdg xembed specs broken?

2012-03-02 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Is it just me or is there no human readable version of the xembed spec available? http://standards.freedesktop.org/xembed-spec/ does not contain any document that can be rendered in the browser. Cheers, Mikkel ___ xdg mailing list

Re: xdg xembed specs broken?

2012-03-02 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 2 March 2012 14:36, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le vendredi 02 mars 2012, à 11:03 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen a écrit : Is it just me or is there no human readable version of the xembed spec available? http://standards.freedesktop.org/xembed-spec/ does not contain any

Re: RFC: An app category for adult material?

2011-11-03 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 2 November 2011 13:19, Kevin Krammer kevin.kram...@gmx.at wrote: Hi, On Tuesday, 2011-11-01, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: Hi, The latest tickets in what's been a recurring item for our application search in Ubuntu is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/883800

Re: RFC: An app category for adult material?

2011-11-02 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 1 November 2011 19:31, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 14:15 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: So keeping it to a problem that we can easily solve a user proposed something that I also think the upstream app authors wouldn't mind: Introducing a new XDG category

RFC: An app category for adult material?

2011-11-01 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi, The latest tickets in what's been a recurring item for our application search in Ubuntu is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/883800. It basically boils down to the fact that you may not want PornView (or other adult apps) popping up as you type a search during a

Re: RFC: An app category for adult material?

2011-11-01 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 1 November 2011 16:11, Paul Elliott pelli...@blackpatchpanel.com wrote: On Tuesday, November 01, 2011 08:15:15 AM Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: Hi, The latest tickets in what's been a recurring item for our application search in Ubuntu is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity

Re: [RFC] XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

2010-11-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 13 November 2010 23:28, Lennart Poettering mz...@0pointer.de wrote: On Sat, 13.11.10 23:12, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen (mikkel.kamst...@gmail.com) wrote: It's not totally clear from the discussions on this list, what kind of items you intend to go in XDG_USER_DIR? As I read it we

Re: [RFC] XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

2010-11-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 14 November 2010 02:09, Oswald Buddenhagen o...@kde.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:28:08PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sat, 13.11.10 23:12, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen (mikkel.kamst...@gmail.com) wrote: I'd rather like something more deterministic. When there are no file

Re: [RFC] XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

2010-11-13 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 6 November 2010 23:03, Lennart Poettering mz...@0pointer.de wrote: Heya, Ryan Lortie and I have been sitting down here at the GNOME Summit and have discussed an older proposal that was posted on the XDG ML by Ryan a while back, regarding definition of a directory where user applications

Re: Proposing the StatusNotifier specification

2010-01-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2009/12/17 Aurélien Gâteau aurelien.gat...@canonical.com: Hi, A few months ago, Marco Martin proposed a new specification to freedesktop.org [1] (at this time it was named NotificationItem, it has since then be renamed to StatusNotifier to avoid confusion with the existing Notification

Re: Proposing the StatusNotifier specification

2010-01-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2010/1/14 Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com: On Thursday 14 January 2010, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 2009/12/17 Aurélien Gâteau aurelien.gat...@canonical.com: Hi, A few months ago, Marco Martin proposed a new specification to freedesktop.org [1] (at this time it was named

Re: Proposing the StatusNotifier specification

2010-01-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2009/12/17 Aurélien Gâteau aurelien.gat...@canonical.com: Hi, A few months ago, Marco Martin proposed a new specification to freedesktop.org [1] (at this time it was named NotificationItem, it has since then be renamed to StatusNotifier to avoid confusion with the existing Notification

ANNOUNCE: Xesam Specification v1.0

2009-05-02 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi world, After many delays and flamewars I am very proud to announce the first stable version of the Xesam specification. You can read the specification online at: http://xesam.org (direct link: http://xesam.org/main/Xesam100). Unfortunately there are no PDFs up yet, I am working on this. This

Re: KNotificationAreaItem

2009-04-23 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2009/4/23 Ted Gould t...@gould.cx: On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 23:11 +0200, Olivier Goffart wrote: Doesnn't the fact that this service is required show a flaw in dbus itself. Is there a way to ask dbus all the running client that provides a given interface? I know nothing of DBus other than the

Re: Proposed draft for the thumbnail D-Bus specification

2008-09-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Just did a quick review of the Thumbnailer spec on http://live.gnome.org/ThumbnailerSpec as of today. Overall it seems good, but I have a few comments+questions. * It took me two reads to grok the interplay between Queue and Unqueue. It is elegant I give you that, but it could be explained

Re: Proposed draft for the thumbnail D-Bus specification

2008-09-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2008/9/7 Philip Van Hoof [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 13:47 +0200, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: * Why do each specialized thumbnailer has its own interface name? Ie com.mikkel.Thumbnailer? Since the interface is defined by the thumbnailer spec anyway, why is the name

Re: Proposed draft for the thumbnail D-Bus specification

2008-09-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2008/9/7 Patryk Zawadzki [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Under which circumstances does the methods throw errors and when do they silently fail? - What happens if I Queue the file [EMAIL PROTECTED]? - Unqueuing a non

Announcing Xesam Search RC2

2008-03-28 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi all, I am pleased to announce that I rolled Release Candidate 2 of the Xesam Search Spec. It is available from http://xesam.org. The release cycle was *much* longer than what I had aimed for, but life got in the way. In short, nothing exiting happened in this cycle (which is a good thing!). A

Re: [XESAM] Questions regarding Xesam Query Language

2008-02-18 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 17/09/2007, Anders Rune Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've been reading the Xesam Query Language specification and I have a questions: 1) How do I get all tags for all files? Preferable as listname, count. The same is true for other attributes such as mime-types. This boarders on

Re: [XESAM] Questions regarding Xesam Query Language

2008-02-18 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 18/02/2008, Jamie McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 11:23 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: On 17/09/2007, Anders Rune Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've been reading the Xesam Query Language specification and I have a questions: 1) How

Re: [XESAM] RDF vs .Desktop

2008-02-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 09/02/2008, Liam R E Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 16:04 +0100, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: On 09/02/2008, Liam R E Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 09:22 +0200, Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: [...] At the end of the day not so many

Re: [XESAM] RDF vs .Desktop

2008-02-09 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 09/02/2008, Liam R E Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 09:22 +0200, Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: [...] At the end of the day not so many people will write this format by hand. A question, though -- how does this work if markup is needed in names, e.g. for Ruby? Or

[Xesam] new mailing list set up

2007-12-05 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi all, I just want to inform you that a separate Xesam mailing list has been set up. Surprisingly called xesam, hosted here on FDO. In the future announcements (like the upcomming, and hopefully final, Search spec RC2) will still go here, but main discussion will go on the xesam list. So jump

Re: [XESAM] RC1 out

2007-10-24 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/10/23, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/10/23, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, On 10/23/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the subject says, XESAM RC1 is out, much later than I had hoped, but well - if you want the bad excuses

Re: [XESAM] RC1 out

2007-10-23 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/10/23, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, On 10/23/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the subject says, XESAM RC1 is out, much later than I had hoped, but well - if you want the bad excuses read my blog. Let me talk a little before I give you the link

[XESAM] RC1 out

2007-10-22 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi all, As the subject says, XESAM RC1 is out, much later than I had hoped, but well - if you want the bad excuses read my blog. Let me talk a little before I give you the link to the spec. As you may know we have an age old project request[1] up on FDO bugzilla. This plus the horribly slow wiki

Re: [XESAM] Last Changes Before RC1 (sorry for delay)

2007-09-29 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/9/28, Arun Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Sorry about the delated response. On 9/26/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will be the last batch of changes before we call RC1 (modulo upcoming ontology update). As usual you can find the proposed items

Re: [XESAM] Last Changes Before RC1 (sorry for delay)

2007-09-27 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/9/26, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/26/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will be the last batch of changes before we call RC1 (modulo upcoming ontology update). As usual you can find the proposed items on http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki

[XESAM] Last Changes Before RC1 (sorry for delay)

2007-09-25 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Cheers all, First of all sorry for the delay. Second - BE SURE TO REVIEW THESE CHANGES IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN XESAM. This will be the last batch of changes before we call RC1 (modulo upcoming ontology update). As usual you can find the proposed items on

Re: [XESAM] Aiming for RC1 this sunday. Missing pieces...

2007-09-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/9/20, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, On 9/18/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that Strigi has some work in, but I am not sure how far they are (they share a XESAM query parser with Pinot (part of the Dijon project on berlios)). Strigi

Re: [XESAM] Questions regarding Xesam Query Language

2007-09-17 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/9/17, Anders Rune Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I've been reading the Xesam Query Language specification and I have a questions: 1) How do I get all tags for all files? Preferable as listname, count. The same is true for other attributes such as mime-types. You are right that there

Re: [XESAM] Aiming for RC1 this sunday. Missing pieces...

2007-09-17 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/9/17, Joe Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Sorry for the delay in replying to this. On 9/13/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been discussing with Evgeny on IRC, and we agreed that it should be possible to compile XESAM 1.0 RC1 spec for this sunday (2007-09-16

Re: [XESAM] Aiming for RC1 this sunday. Missing pieces...

2007-09-15 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/9/14, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 01:01 +0200, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: Man I love speaking to myself :-) Anyways, I just completed (4). Check it out at http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamQueryLanguage and gimme the flames... (I'm not involved

Re: [XESAM] Aiming for RC1 this sunday. Missing pieces...

2007-09-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/9/14, Arun Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/14/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Man I love speaking to myself :-) Anyways, I just completed (4). Check it out at http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamQueryLanguage and gimme the flames... Looks good! One

[XESAM] Aiming for RC1 this sunday. Missing pieces...

2007-09-13 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi all, I've been discussing with Evgeny on IRC, and we agreed that it should be possible to compile XESAM 1.0 RC1 spec for this sunday (2007-09-16). Here are the missing pieces that needs to be settled before sunday: 1.1) Evgeny has a few updates for the ontology that will be merged;

Re: [XESAM] Aiming for RC1 this sunday. Missing pieces...

2007-09-13 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/9/13, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/9/13, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I've been discussing with Evgeny on IRC, and we agreed that it should be possible to compile XESAM 1.0 RC1 spec for this sunday (2007-09-16). Here are the missing

Re: [XESAM] Search API Update Proposals

2007-08-14 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/8/13, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/8/13, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I updated http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamSearchUpdates with the conclusions of the discussions. I'll merge it to the spec tonight or tomorrow. If you want a last minute

Re: [XESAM] Search API Update Proposals

2007-08-13 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
I updated http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamSearchUpdates with the conclusions of the discussions. I'll merge it to the spec tonight or tomorrow. If you want a last minute change, then this is the last call for changes in this round. Cheers, Mikkel

Re: [XESAM] Search API Update Proposals

2007-08-13 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/8/13, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I updated http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamSearchUpdates with the conclusions of the discussions. I'll merge it to the spec tonight or tomorrow. If you want a last minute change, then this is the last call for changes in this round

Re: Question on Xesam capabilities

2007-08-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/8/10, Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/10/07, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 10 August 2007 13:25:09 Luca Dionisi wrote: Is it possible with the Xesam API to search within results à la Google or even better? I mean, will I be able, with a Xesam

Re: [XESAM] Search API Update Proposals

2007-08-08 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/8/8, Thiago Macieira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: In any case, we're discussing null types in D-Bus itself. This will probably require a new major message version... So using the 'correct' 'bv' is faster. That is interesting. Especially since quite a few

Re: [XESAM] Search API Update Proposals

2007-08-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/8/7, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 07 August 2007 09:29:51 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 2. Type Attribute in Query Language I agree with Jamie that usually people will just enumerate categories in which to search, without any complex criterias

Re: [XESAM] Search API Update Proposals

2007-08-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/8/8, Jos van den Oever [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/8/7, Thiago Macieira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Neither solution is a problem with QtDBus. The bv solution would generate larger messages, but faster parsing (QtDBus delays decoding of variants until actual use). In any case, we're discussing

Re: [XESAM] Search API Update Proposals

2007-08-04 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/8/4, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On 8/3/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been collecting comments on the Xesam spec lately, and I think we have enough now to do an update round of the spec proposal. Proposed changes can be found here: http

[XESAM] Search API Update Proposals

2007-08-02 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi all, I've been collecting comments on the Xesam spec lately, and I think we have enough now to do an update round of the spec proposal. Proposed changes can be found here: http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamSearchUpdates Please report back asap. Cheers, Mikkel

[XESAM] API simplification?

2007-07-16 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi again, I have a few suggestions for updates to the xesam search spec. * API: Remove the session properties search.blocking and search.live. These seemed to cause more confusion than I anticipated. These can be emulated in the client side lib as far as my scribblings can tell. Anoter solution

Re: [XESAM] Ontology snaphot. Important proposal.

2007-06-27 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/27, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 27 June 2007 02:45:15 John Tapsell wrote: Hi all, First time caller, long time listener... :-) At the risk of being stupid, from this diagram audio files have frameRate and frameCount info, no? This doesn't seem right.

[XESAM] Search spec updated. API CHANGE

2007-06-27 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi all, As warned I have implemented the changes as per http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamSearchUpdates The API change I shout about in the subject line is the fact that the method StartSearch have been added so that you now have to issue this call to start the search created by NewSearch.

Re: [XESAM] Spec update proposals

2007-06-22 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/22, Jos van den Oever [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/17, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/17, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/16, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, While hacking on xesam-tools[1] I have struck a few

Re: [XESAM] Spec update proposals

2007-06-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/20, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 6/20/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Specify that I want to use a signal SearchDone when the index has been searched I am not sure I understand. If the search is live, how can it ever be done ? People may think

Re: [XESAM] Spec update proposals

2007-06-17 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/16, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, While hacking on xesam-tools[1] I have struck a few problems in the current spec and I think we should settle them asap. Please have a look at http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamSearchUpdatesand gimme some feedback

Re: [XESAM] Spec update proposals

2007-06-17 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/17, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/16, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, While hacking on xesam-tools[1] I have struck a few problems in the current spec and I think we should settle them asap. Please have a look at http

[XESAM] Spec update proposals

2007-06-16 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi all, While hacking on xesam-tools[1] I have struck a few problems in the current spec and I think we should settle them asap. Please have a look at http://wiki.freedesktop.org/wiki/XesamSearchUpdatesand gimme some feedback. Cheers, Mikkel [1]: Btw xesam-tools-0.3 is out -

Re: [XESAM] Moving business elsewhere?

2007-06-11 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/10, Jos van den Oever [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/10, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Xesames and xdg subscribers, Our project creation request[1] has been stalled for almost four months now. I really don't think we can keep on abusing the xdg list anymore

Re: [Xesam] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-11 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/10, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We need to agree on a consistent Source naming. Source-Source Item examples: Filesystem -File Archive -ArchiveItem Email -Attachment It seems resonable to adopt either: * this is contained in a

Re: [XESAM] Moving business elsewhere?

2007-06-11 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/11, Jos van den Oever [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/11, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/10, Jos van den Oever [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/10, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Xesames and xdg subscribers, Our project creation request[1] has been

Re: [Xesam] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-11 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/11, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 11 June 2007 17:19:08 Antoni Mylka wrote: Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen pisze: In this setup I think source is a misleading word, but I can't think of anything better right now (I think there must be at least 30C in the office, my

Re: [Xesam] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-11 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/11, Dave Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon Jun 11 12:29:10 2007, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: - Filesystem : The object data is stored on the fs This one I understand. But does it count only if it's a local filesystem? Or only one that's mounted? Well, it might be an idea

Re: [Xesam] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/9, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Source attached. Cute picture: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/PhreedomDraft?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=viz.png Great work. This is really starting to look like something. -- Design decisions proposed: Split ontology into

Re: [Xesam] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/10, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 10 June 2007 12:20:48 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 2007/6/9, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Source attached. Cute picture: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/PhreedomDraft?action=AttachFiledo=viewt arget=viz.png Great

[XESAM] Moving business elsewhere?

2007-06-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Hi Xesames and xdg subscribers, Our project creation request[1] has been stalled for almost four months now. I really don't think we can keep on abusing the xdg list anymore, and as it appears we are not going to get a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list I think we have to move our business elsewhere if

Re: [XESAM] Extension proposal, alternative search services

2007-06-08 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/8, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 08 June 2007 09:05:19 you wrote: I just wanna toss this idea out in the wild. I want to make it easy to have multiple services expose a xesam search interface. We would still have the standard desktop search engine with the

Re: [XESAM] Extension proposal, alternative search services

2007-06-08 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/8, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 08 June 2007 17:53:22 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: Another point: many ontologies can co-exist with the aid of namespacing. You can lump together results from queries to any number of indexers, and it'll work just fine

Re: [XESAM] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
I just want to sum up the discussion from last night on #xesam. We discussed the recent proposal of having Category and Source be single valued fields that both imply the meaningful fields on an object. This to (some extend) requires us to have multiple inheritance for categories (not

Re: [XESAM] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/7, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 07 June 2007 17:23:16 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 2007/6/7, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 6/7/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To ease the query expansion on the servers each Category will have

[XESAM] Extension proposal, alternative search services

2007-06-07 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
I just wanna toss this idea out in the wild. I want to make it easy to have multiple services expose a xesam search interface. We would still have the standard desktop search engine with the dbus path and name as specified, but other implementations of the search interface could be useful too.

Re: [XESAM] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-06 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/6, jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 16:37 +0200, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: I've been bugging about trying to figure out how we can please everyone with regards to categories and sources. There seem to be consensus on the following: Each object has two designated

Re: [XESAM] Ontology sketch. Feedback needed. This time with attachment.

2007-06-05 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/5, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 02:18:21 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 2007/6/5, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 00:25:45 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 2007/5/30, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all

Re: [XESAM] Ontology sketch. Feedback needed. This time with attachment.

2007-06-05 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/30, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'd like you to take a look at the ontology sketch http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/PhreedomDraft?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=viz.png How about a field that states the application that created the object in the first place, or is

Re: [XESAM] Ontology snapshot

2007-06-05 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/6, Joe Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On 6/5/07, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 15:33:55 Fabrice Colin wrote: On 6/3/07, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant handling thumbnails of files. Strigi has a thumbnail field for files. Not

Re: [XESAM] Ontology sketch. Feedback needed. This time with attachment.

2007-06-04 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/30, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'd like you to take a look at the ontology sketch http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/PhreedomDraft?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=viz.png It's not complete. Some fields/classes are dropped intentionally. I'd like to hear some feedback

Re: [XESAM] Ontology sketch. Feedback needed. This time with attachment.

2007-06-04 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/5, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 00:25:45 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 2007/5/30, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'd like you to take a look at the ontology sketch http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/PhreedomDraft?action

Re: [XESAM] Ontology sketch. Feedback needed. This time with attachment.

2007-06-01 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/6/1, Antoni Mylka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen pisze: * contributor (DC) * creator (DC) * description (DC) * language (DC) * publisher (DC) * subject (DC) * title (DC) * license (an extensible vocabulary with predefined values GPL, LPGL, MIT etc) * uri

Re: [XESAM] Ontology sketch. Feedback needed.

2007-05-31 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/30, jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 18:51 +0300, Evgeny Egorochkin wrote: Hi all, I'd like you to take a look at the ontology sketch http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/PhreedomDraft?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=viz.png It's not complete. Some fields/classes are

Re: [XESAM] Ontology sketch. Feedback needed. This time with attachment.

2007-05-31 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/31, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 31 May 2007 17:27:46 jamie wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 14:50 +0300, Evgeny Egorochkin wrote: On Thursday 31 May 2007 12:50:24 Antoni Mylka wrote: Hello phreedom, For those of you who don't know me I'm currently working on

Re: [XESAM] Ontology sketch. Feedback needed. This time with attachment.

2007-05-30 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/30, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry forgot the most important part :) Hi all, I'd like you to take a look at the ontology sketch http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/PhreedomDraft?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=viz.png Thanks for the effort. I like the big

Re: [XESAM] Meeting, Wednesday 2007-05-23 at 17:00 UTC

2007-05-22 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/21, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wednesday 2007-05-23, 17:00 UTC (19:00 CET) at irc://FreeNode/#xesam. The meeting will focus on how to get something concrete down to ensure that the metadata-spec moves on. I will post an agenda tomorrow. Please chime in if you have any

Re: [XESAM] New meeting, date+time proposals please

2007-05-21 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/21, Sebastian Trüg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 21 May 2007 00:47:21 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 2007/5/16, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was evident from the last meeting that we are badly in need of a meeting where more search engines are represented

Re: [XESAM] changes in the Xesam XML Query Languae

2007-05-21 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/19, Jos van den Oever [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I was rereading the xesam-query.xsd and have the following remarks about it. - There is no target namespace. This must be fixed before it becomes final. - The attribute 'type' on query is redundant since one also use a selection for it.

Re: [XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-21 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/20, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I would like to request a change to the Xesam Query Language. The schema at http://grillbar.org/xesam/drafts/xesam-query.xsd defines xs:complexType name=selectProximityType xs:complexContent xs:extension base=selectBaseType

Re: [XESAM] changes in the Xesam XML Query Languae

2007-05-21 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/21, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/5/19, Jos van den Oever [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I was rereading the xesam-query.xsd and have the following remarks about it. - There is no target namespace. This must be fixed before it becomes final. - The attribute 'type

[XESAM] Meeting, Wednesday 2007-05-23 at 17:00 UTC

2007-05-21 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Wednesday 2007-05-23, 17:00 UTC (19:00 CET) at irc://FreeNode/#xesam. The meeting will focus on how to get something concrete down to ensure that the metadata-spec moves on. I will post an agenda tomorrow. Please chime in if you have any points you want to put up on the meeting. IMPORTANT: RDF

Re: [XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-21 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/21, Joe Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey, On 5/20/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. That was not entirely thought through. I must admit that I find http://beagle-project.org/Writing_clients a bit confusing though. Ah, I hadn't actually read that page. As far

Re: [XESAM] changes in the Xesam XML Query Languae

2007-05-21 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/21, jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 21:43 +0200, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: 5) And a bigger issue, that is a tough call... Should we use real dbus objects for sessions/searches? According to Havoc Pennington

Re: [XESAM] New meeting, date+time proposals please

2007-05-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/18, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 18 May 2007 12:27:30 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: * should we allow for multiple inheritance (ie multiple parents for fields)? I believe there were two issues intermixed: multiple parents for fields and multiple types

Re: [XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/18, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 18 May 2007 09:22:30 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: * It was brought up again whether this category system should be independent or dependent on the field definitions. Again we where split in two camps. Strigi/Nepomuk

Re: [XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/18, Joe Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On 5/18/07, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you provide a more concrete example of why you can't e.g. define a Object.HitType field instead to provide the same functionality? Oh, there's no reason why you can't. In fact, this is

Re: [XESAM] RDF vs .Desktop

2007-05-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/18, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'll offer a drink to the hero who will create the xesam mailing list :-) (And you'll help solve part of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10114) I shall chip in as well. I will send a 0.7L Maisel's Weisse to the one creating the xesam

Re: [XESAM] New meeting, date+time proposals please

2007-05-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/19, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 19 May 2007 14:37:57 you wrote: 2007/5/18, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 18 May 2007 12:27:30 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: * should we allow for multiple inheritance (ie multiple parents for fields

Re: [XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/19, Joe Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On 5/19/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would the HitType/FileType structure of Beagle not be implicit with a Category structure like this: http://www.grillbar.org/xesam/object-tree.png (this is not the old example again

Re: [XESAM] New meeting, date+time proposals please

2007-05-20 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/16, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was evident from the last meeting that we are badly in need of a meeting where more search engines are represented. This basically boils down to Pinot, Recoll and Beagle devs. Please chime in with date+time proposals ASAP (this also

Re: [XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-18 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/17, Joe Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On 5/17/07, jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EG Video would be a subclass of File and Web Bookmark a subclass of Bookmark etc (this is the rdf or triple store way of doing things) I think in your case Hit type are the top level parents and File type

Re: [XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-18 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/17, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 5/16/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MEETING: * It was proposed that we had a platform independent libxesam with the core non-dbus related utilities such as query parsing and query construction. It was the general

Re: [XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-18 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/17, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 17 May 2007 14:22:50 Fabrice Colin wrote: * It was brought up again whether this category system should be independent or dependent on the field definitions. Again we where split in two camps. Strigi/Nepomuk arguing that the

Re: [XESAM] New meeting, date+time proposals please

2007-05-18 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/17, jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 15:16 -0400, Joe Shaw wrote: Hi, On 5/16/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was evident from the last meeting that we are badly in need of a meeting where more search engines are represented. This basically

Re: [XESAM] New meeting, date+time proposals please

2007-05-18 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/18, Fabrice Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 5/18/07, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/5/17, jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: how about next monday at 18:00 utc? This would be 24:00 for Fabrice... Maybe we could start at 17:00 utc, but that might be too early for Joe

Re: [XESAM] New meeting, date+time proposals please

2007-05-18 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/5/16, Evgeny Egorochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 16 May 2007 17:24:57 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: It was evident from the last meeting that we are badly in need of a meeting where more search engines are represented. This basically boils down to Pinot, Recoll and Beagle devs

[XESAM] Minutes of meeting 2007-05-15

2007-05-16 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Here are the minutes of our meeting yesterday (2007-05-15). Sorry it is a bit short, but my time is limited... ATTENDING: Gunnar (nepomuk), Sebastian (nepomuk), Jamie (tracker), Jos (strigi), Evgeny (strigi), Mikkel (vigilante ninja) AGENDA: * libxesam, libxesam-{glib,qt} - should we

[XESAM] New meeting, date+time proposals please

2007-05-16 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
It was evident from the last meeting that we are badly in need of a meeting where more search engines are represented. This basically boils down to Pinot, Recoll and Beagle devs. Please chime in with date+time proposals ASAP (this also goes to devs of other engines). What we need to discuss in

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