Re: .log directory

2010-01-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 18:17 +0100, Wolfram Kleff wrote: Request for Comments/Standards update suggestion: I would like to suggest a .log directory in the $HOME directory like the .cache directory. The .log directory would be a good place for all the log, history and recent files which

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:07 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 03:38:15 pm Rodney Dawes wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Steiner wrote on 02/12/09 22:55: ... What

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:01 +, Nuno Pinheiro wrote: this may be a very silly idea but i thought i should share, couldn't it make sense to simply make a font with all the symbols you need, as i told you guys KDE is probably going to implement this type of icons inside plasma specific

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Steiner wrote on 02/12/09 22:55: ... What the important part here is that the color isn't defined in the icon itself, it's up to the widget theme to define in all sorts of

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:52:13 +0100 Jakub Steiner jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@sinecera.de wrote: Most important will be the foreground colors like normal, prelight, active, selected and insensitive. To keep things simple, we should treat the

Re: Desktop usability issues: some comments from the country of bears, vodka and ISO8859-5

2009-09-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 11:17 +, Aceler wrote: John Tapsell johnflux at gmail.com wrote at Tue Sep 1 07:00:55 PDT 2009: Another issue - stealing focus. In X Window, every app that requests focus, gets it. I think KWin disables focus stealing by default. Either way, you can turn it on

Re: [desktop entry spec] new FullName key

2009-07-24 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 20:00 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday 23 July 2009, Michael Pyne wrote: hearing someone from a i18n who has actually had a problem completing the translation because the current means available are insufficient. The i18n issues aren't in translating the text.

Re: freedesktop.org specification process

2009-07-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
I generally disagree with the idea that in order to use the org.freedesktop namespace for DBus interfaces, you must first gain acceptance through having multiple desktops use your interface. This means that it will be much harder to gain acceptance (as I'm sure that lots of KDE developers are

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-07-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
I've created a project [1] on Launchpad for this now. Please go ahead and file some requests there as separate bugs for each icon name. Both Ken [2] and myself should be notified of new bugs against the project. Thanks. [1] http://launchpad.net/icon-naming-spec [2] Ken Wimer is now a

Re: basedir spec and plugins

2009-06-30 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 13:02 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: ia64-linux-gnu (is the word size/endianness differentiation really necessary, or is there one endianness and word size that, in practice, everyone uses? If you really need to distinguish, talk to config-patc...@gnu.org, without which

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 23:09 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sun, 28.06.09 18:10, Aaron J. Seigo (ase...@kde.org) wrote: The big problem is that noone else but Rodney is willing to maintain the spec. so, i should have asked this the first time, but i figured maybe an irc meet-

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 03:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 29.06.09 21:40, Rodney Dawes (dobey.p...@gmail.com) wrote: Another reason to suggest using Launchpad Bugs to track their status. It provides meaningful status field information, priority, and threaded comments via

Re: basedir spec and plugins

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 15:19 +0200, stefan.k...@nokia.com wrote: hi, the spec [1] only talks about XDG_DATA_DIRS/HOME - e.g. icons, docs, ... equiv of e.g. /usr/share XDG_CONFIG_DIRS/HOME - settings, equiv of /etc XDG_CACHE_DIRS/HOME - e.g. a plugin cache, equiv of /var/cache but there

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 14:31 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Sunday 28 June 2009, Lennart Poettering wrote: The big problem is that noone else but Rodney is willing to maintain the spec. if someone was found who would maintain it and had the appropriate experience to do so, would such a

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 19:21 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: a couple of people have offered this POV now. this concerns me deeply, as KDE just recently adopted this spec. the only reason we went through all that work[1] was to gain the benefits of a shared spec. if the spec dies now, then our

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 20:32 +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: At 1245949338 time_t, Nicolò Chieffo wrote: There is the possibility to subscribe a new launchpad project about the icon naming spec, to better follow versions, bugs, feature requests, user questions. In my opinion we should go,

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 17:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 15:02 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: my only question is whether or not this is something that the various participants in working on the icon spec are in favour of? i assume/hope so, but as it hasn't been

Re: icon naming spec project on launchpad?

2009-06-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 15:02 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday 25 June 2009, Rodney Dawes wrote: Bugzilla and MoinMoin don't provide useful work-flow for maintaining status and discussion of something like icon names. They are not particularly great for task oriented work-flows, while

Re: about names for special folders

2009-06-15 Thread Rodney Dawes
As I already stated elsewhere, I think folder-foo is better here, absent the usage of emblems on the normal folder icon, which would be more appropriate. Though, I think there are some oddities in the naming of the folders themselves, which we might want to avoid duplicating in the icon names for

Re: desktop-bookmark-spec: disable recent files storage?

2009-06-07 Thread Rodney Dawes
Hi, The Recent Files spec isn't XBEL. I don't know how implementable this is, but I think it would be better to store configuration in config somewhere. Perhaps this could be implemented via dconf (when it is available) or with an XSetting, so that it will work for both desktops. -- Rodney On

Re: ThemePackageSpec (aka Metathemes)

2009-06-07 Thread Rodney Dawes
content folder base quite problematic. So this needs to get somehow dealt with. Regards, Torsten Am Samstag 06 Juni 2009 11:04:40 schrieb Stephan Arts: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Rodney Dawes dobey.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:19 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote

Re: Voting mechnism is needed for xdg discussion.

2009-06-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
Popularity contests are not the way to solve design issues. Also, we already have a forum for voting on these issues. It's called mailing list discussion. Having a straight yes/no vote on the issues doesn't dissect the issues that may in fact cause other issues, which is why they aren't getting

Re: ThemePackageSpec (aka Metathemes)

2009-06-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:19 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Rodney Dawes dobey.p...@gmail.com wrote: The biggest issues I see, are icon themes, cursor themes, and sound themes. These are currently installed in separate paths from other theme bits, and cursors

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:25 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: True, but what might work is to have a second Extra Icons spec that works together with the base icon spec. This Extra Icon spec would, by design, have the same goals as the base spec, but would be maintained in a more 'reasonable'

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:55 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: and has been for a long while now. And the base spec clearly identifies how to name these device icons anyway, for specific types of devices, with only the base types being in the base spec, so everything falls back to those base

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 16:08 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: Rodney Dawes wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 11:55 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: No. I never actually denied these icons, or specifically stated they were a bad idea. I asked questions about how they would be used, and what

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-05-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:19 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sat, 02.05.09 16:14, Lennart Poettering (mz...@0pointer.de) wrote: On Tue, 21.04.09 01:41, Lennart Poettering (mz...@0pointer.de) wrote: I am still convinced that having these four (or five) icon names for all things

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-04-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 03:33 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 18.03.09 21:56, Lennart Poettering (mz...@0pointer.de) wrote: May I suggest the following names? audio-card (as it exists right now, intended for the generic idea of 'audio') I really want to change this, but I'm

Re: XDG, xdg-open, and view vs. edit

2009-03-30 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 19:25 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Pat Suwalski p...@suwalski.net wrote: Daniel Bo wrote: That said, I wonder why the choice was to set a default application for opening when most file types have view and edit modes. Why are there

Re: Icon Theme spec and multiple index.theme

2009-03-16 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 18:36 +0100, Sanel Zukan wrote: Does this mean that when $HOME/.icons/foo-theme/index.theme was read, all other directory entries from /usr/share/pixmaps/foo-theme/index.theme are ignored, except 48x48/apps? Yes. ___ xdg

Re: XDG Icon Spec: requesting new icons for headsets, speakers, headphones

2009-03-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 11:08 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: they both require a jack-plug, bluetooth- or irda interface to send audio from a machine to your ear. Given that thinking, a scanner, a camera and a webcam are the same thing as well :) I certainly use my DSLR to scan receipts for

Re: sending apps to the right place in the (new) submenu

2009-01-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
This is handled through categories. Of course Rhythmbox doesn't play multiple types of media yet afaik. It only does music. :) If the categories in the .desktop file for the app, and the .menu file match up, then the app shows up in that menu, unless the implementation is doing something

Re: sending apps to the right place in the (new) submenu

2009-01-14 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 20:21 +0100, schoappied wrote: Rodney Dawes wrote: This is handled through categories. Of course Rhythmbox doesn't play multiple types of media yet afaik. It only does music. :) If the categories in the .desktop file for the app, and the .menu file match up

Re: What constitutes user configuration files in the XDG basedir spec?

2009-01-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 22:09 +0100, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: Hi all, at http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html it is explained that $XDG_DATA_{HOME,DIRS} is for (user specific) data files and $XDG_CONFIG_{HOME,DIRS} for (user specific) configuration files.

Re: No category for blogging clients

2009-01-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 07:03 -0500, Fred Drake wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Matthew Smith indig...@blogistan.co.uk wrote: The problem is that none of the registered categories actually cover blogging clients, as it's not a web browser nor a web development application (let alone

Re: minimal list of must have icons

2009-01-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
The Icon Naming Specification itself only provides the minimal list of names. I've changed the text you referenced, to clarify this, in CVS. There will be addendums to provide lists of names for extra icons, such as devices[1] and MIME types. The names in the spec itself are intended to be the

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 13:52 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Sunday 07 December 2008, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 01:05 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: Yes, of course. I'm aware that gnome-icon-theme has little relevance to spec issues, and did not intend to imply any connection

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 01:05 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: Yes, of course. I'm aware that gnome-icon-theme has little relevance to spec issues, and did not intend to imply any connection, just that it's not currently possible to use an application-octet-stream icon while assuming that it

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 20:39 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: Hi, I think the icon naming spec is lacking a generic binary MIME type icon. For example, recent shared-mime-info has set text-x-generic for a lot of file types that have nothing to do with text, I suppose because there's no better

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-05 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 10:26 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: On Tuesday 02 December 2008, Rodney Dawes wrote: It is maintained. And I am very easily contacted. You might consider to reply to the original post in this thread. I believe the lack of feedback about past proposals contributes

Re: Icon naming spec: generic binary MIME type icon?

2008-12-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
It is maintained. And I am very easily contacted. On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:51 +0800, PCMan wrote: Second that! Forking is needed if the original spec is no more maintained and the original maintainer cannot be contacted. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Richard Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What is the definition of standards?

2008-12-01 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 20:09 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: Although, didn't someone propose a distinction between specifications that have generally been agreed upon, and specifications that have not? The Specifications wiki page should have that already, listing the specifications in such

Re: Why .local/share ?

2008-11-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 11:10 -0500, Liam R E Quin wrote: Certainly nowhere starting with a . -- I don't want to be carrying binaries around in hidden directories in 10 years' time. Luckily the world is going to end in ~4 years, so we won't have to worry about what the convention is 10 years from

Re: Why .local/share ?

2008-11-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:30 +0100, Thiago Macieira wrote: Orion White wrote: Hi-- I've begun to use the XDG base directory standard for my projects, and I am very happy with it. However, I do not understand the rational behind .local/share. I have searched the Internet for some

Re: Icon theme spec on the website

2008-09-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
The details are in the spec. The problem with file type icons is people assign arbitrary things as the MIME type. Like application/foo for audio files, or text types. It seems like most new things just end up under application/ when they would be better suited to other groups, or perhaps should

Re: Icon theme spec on the website

2008-09-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 15:38 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:30 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: I noticed system-suspend system-hibernate and system-reboot are missing from 0.8.90, is that is CVS? I've given up on the icon-naming-spec, it's just too hard for developers to

Re: Icon theme spec on the website

2008-09-25 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 21:05 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: And a staging area. Like, a place where developers can list their icons regardless of applicability in other desktops, and other devs list theirs too, and everyone can have a look at what similar applications use and consequently

Re: Icon theme spec on the website

2008-09-23 Thread Rodney Dawes
Do you know of some way to make the -latest.html link get generated from the spec in cvs, rather than just pointing at the latest version that was released? There hasn't been a release since the 0.8 version of the spec. I suppose I can make an 0.9 version if there is some immediate pressing need

Re: Icon-naming-spec names help... (I am a bit confused)

2008-09-22 Thread Rodney Dawes
Hi, On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:41 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: gnome-fs-blockdev gnome-fs-fifo gnome-fs-socket gnome-fs-chardev gnome-fs-regular As you can see, I found replacements for the top 7 icons pretty easilly. But the last 7 confuse me, which icon-names should be used for that?

Re: Icon-naming-spec names help... (I am a bit confused)

2008-09-22 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 11:03 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 10:56 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:41 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: gnome-fs-blockdev gnome-fs-fifo gnome-fs-socket gnome-fs-chardev gnome-fs-regular As you can

Re: missing a .desktop files howto

2008-09-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 17:53 +0200, Matej Tyc wrote: Hello, I am developing an aplication that could use a menu entry. I have learned that I have to drop an appropriate .desktop file to /usr/share/applications, but I have problems with icons. If I write Icon=foo, then where to put the actual

Re: missing a .desktop files howto

2008-09-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 11:28 -0500, D. Marlin wrote: Matej Tyc wrote: Hello, I am developing an application that could use a menu entry. I have learned that I have to drop an appropriate .desktop file to /usr/share/applications, but I have problems with icons. If I write Icon=foo, then

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-06-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 09:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 12:35 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: As long as providing such a [base]+[emblem] icon is always optional for the icon theme, this might work out nicely. I think the language in your patch is not optimal

Re: [icon naming] zoom vs. page-zoom

2008-05-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 06:45 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: Rodney Dawes wrote: That would be like having user-trash, user-bookmarks, user-online, user-desktop, and whatever else there might be, fall back to user. Not very sensible at all is it? No it isn't very sensible because

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 15:55 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, I've asked for the creation of a git repository to host all fd.o specs (will make things much easier). I think it'd make sense to send commit notifications to this list since it will help people track the progress and the changes.

Re: desktop neutral xsettings manager?

2008-04-23 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 22:49 +0800, 洪任諭 wrote: No, lxsession and lxsession-lite don't do that. lxde-settings, however, map a simple config file with ini format to xsettings for LXDE. Besides, xsettings is NOT practically desktop-neutral. Currently only GTK+ programs use it. Not true. No

Re: Desktop Theme Spec

2008-04-20 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 03:09 +0800, 洪任諭 wrote: 2008/4/21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 洪任諭 wrote: We should have only one set of common theming API for all toolkits. Then some backends for every toolkits should be created by the developers who master these toolkits.

Re: Desktop menu - new category

2008-04-16 Thread Rodney Dawes
I would vote for having it be either Philosophy or Theology. -- dobey On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 14:57 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 14 avril 2008, à 21:47 +0800, Toma a écrit : Well there is a growing number of Religious software about and it should have a home in the menu. Its a matter

Re: Desktop menu - new category

2008-04-11 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 23:31 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: On Thursday, 10. April 2008, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, jmehdi wrote: Hi Mehdi, Out of curiosity, what software are you thinking of having in there? :) Softwares used to study the Quran and

Re: Icon naming issue

2008-02-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 22:34 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Friday 27 April 2007 21:39:48 James Richard Tyrer wrote: Patryk Zawadzki wrote: HiColor is not default, it is fallback. Semantics Failing to follow the semantics of a specification means you fail to follow the specification.

Re: Icon naming spec suggestions - mimetypes

2007-12-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 23:14 +0100, Jakob Petsovits wrote: On Friday, 28. December 2007, Jan Claeys wrote: Op woensdag 26-12-2007 om 01:02 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jakob Petsovits: application-x-zerosize The icon used for empty files. Why do those need a different icon?

Re: Fwd: Question on icon theme

2007-12-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
While having a list of icons that are not in the base specification is great, I don't think we should list icons as a per-desktop thing. The goal of icon themes, and the naming spec in particular, is that we can use the same icons on all desktops. I would much prefer the addendum specifications

Re: Fwd: Question on icon theme

2007-12-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
point. If you want to, I can add the pages in the wiki. Please let me know which other areas are needed. Christopher 2007/12/12, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Programming - Graphic Design - Data Management - Device Icons - Audio Production

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-21 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 17:55 +0900, Takao Fujiwara - Tokyo S/W Center wrote: Some of the applications are used on one locale only, e.g. Chinese dictionary application, Japan road map application. The situlation is, those applications are used for one country only, the native persons require to

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
I have to agree with Matthias here. Icons should a) be in the theme, and b) be in US-ASCII. The prior part is specified in the Icon Theme Spec, and the latter in the Icon Naming Spec. An application's icon should be named the same as the binary which is run to use the application. The behavior is

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 21:25 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: 2007/10/9, Thiago Macieira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Patryk Zawadzki wrote: 2007/10/9, Takao Fujiwara - Tokyo S/W Center [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think users want to use their icons and it depends on each user whether they use the simple

Re: locale specific for .desktop

2007-10-04 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:52 +0200, Sanel Zukan wrote: There are a number of locale specific problems for .desktop spec. #1. Language specific launcher options. I'ld like to switch the command options by languages. E.g. Name=Document Exec=gnome-open

Re: Category for a desktop tool needed

2007-08-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 15:59 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: Rodney Dawes wrote: On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 13:10 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: Rodney Dawes wrote: This would also solve the Accessibility issue that Stanislav brought up in his mail, wanting a category for something

Re: Category for a desktop tool needed

2007-08-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 13:10 +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: Rodney Dawes wrote: This would also solve the Accessibility issue that Stanislav brought up in his mail, wanting a category for something that provides an additional service, but isn't a standalone app 'window'. It still does

Re: Category for a desktop tool needed

2007-08-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
Dock as in WM dock/system tray? or Dock as in desktop widget/gadget/whatever? -- dobey On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 17:11 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote: I need categories for a dock type application and its settings tool and non of the available ones seem to fit. After discussing this with a collegue,

Re: Icon name; task-passed-due

2007-08-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 11:34 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: I think that proper US English would be past due Yes, the work 'passed' exists but it has a different use. Normally used to indicate that a physical object has been passed: I passed the ball; I passed the car. But, an account

Re: Actions: grouping vs. extensibility

2007-07-16 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 12:23 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: jimmac the major part of that all making sense is the generic type fallback Hi list, yesterday I started to tackle KDE's actions icons for icon naming spec compliance, and I stumbled across a major bug in the spec, so to say, or at

Re: Trusted vs Unstrusted MIME types

2007-07-09 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 11:57 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On 7/9/07, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One very important design heuristic that should be followed here is Always let the user feel in control. I'd rather word that differently. For me user in control means ignoring any

Re: Trusted vs Unstrusted MIME types

2007-07-07 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 09:53 +, Thomas Leonard wrote: How can a type be safe or unsafe? Safeness depends on the application. E.g. a python script is safe if you open it with a text editor, but not if you use a python interpreter. Perhaps applications that are designed to handle untrusted

Re: [kde-artists] Icon Naming: animations/process-working, animations/process-idle

2007-07-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 19:27 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: Jakob Petsovits wrote: On Wednesday, 4. July 2007, James Richard Tyrer wrote: I note that the Icon Naming spec includes: animations/process-idle animations/process-working Er, no, the naming spec does not include

Re: [kde-artists] Icon Naming: animations/process-working, animations/process-idle

2007-07-06 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 07:57 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: Rodney Dawes wrote: Everything in Tango isn't in the spec, and isn't meant to go in the spec. The Tango group might not agree with that, but anyway. It certainly is starting to look like this isn't going to be simple

Re: Direction arrows.

2007-06-24 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 23:10 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: The Icon Naming Spec currently lacks icon names for the last two. Should we call these: view-previous view-next of are there better ideas? media-skip-backward media-skip-forward

Re: xdg-utils xdg-icon-resource's destination icon name

2007-06-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 11:48 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: IIUC, we are currently working on an icon naming standard: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html KDE will use this standard for the icon names in KDE4. I don't know what GNOME's plans

Re: [Icon Theme Spec] Directory Layout

2007-06-16 Thread Rodney Dawes
This bug is about GTK+ theme paths, not Icon Themes. The argument of GTK following the Icon Theme spec is irrelevant here. -- dobey On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 09:53 +0200, Stephan Arts wrote: Hi, I am sending this mail in response to this bug[0], regarding the lookup if themes and icons inside

Re: Icon naming issue

2007-04-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 09:33 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Saturday 28 April 2007 08:03:27 Rodney Dawes wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 22:34 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Friday 27 April 2007 21:39:48 James Richard Tyrer wrote: Patryk Zawadzki wrote: HiColor is not default

Re: Icon Theme spec question

2007-01-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 18:19 +0100, David Faure wrote: On Monday 29 January 2007, Brian Mattern wrote: Would it make sense to require $XDG_DATA_DIRS/pixmaps as an additional fallback to handle installations outside of /usr? We added this directory in kde's implementation

Re: xdg-utils xdg-icon-resource's destination icon name

2007-01-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 15:50 -0800, Daniel Yek wrote: What kind of response were expected? Response from desktop implementors? Or Software Vendors? People subscribed to this mailing list. Preferably people involved in the development of applications or libraries that implement the specs in

RE: Icon / mime association..

2006-10-17 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 19:46 +0300, Kustaa Nyholm wrote: My extensions (*.jdwg) are now correctly associated by installer with my mime types (application/vnd.jdwg) and my jDraft.desktop shows the icon I specified for my application and my documents also show the icon I want. The application

Re: Icon / mime association..

2006-10-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 17:24 +0200, Magnus Bergman wrote: On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:25:22 +0300 Kustaa Nyholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Magnus Bergman wrote: The icon for a mimetype is expected to be in DATADIR/icons/THEME/*/mimetypes. In other words, the icon used depends on the

Re: Ideas concerning desktop application icons

2006-08-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 14:45 +1000, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: There's no information at http://ixons.info/ whatsoever. Right. I looked at the web site, and it seems like there is absolutely no content about what the goals are here. It mentions an IRC channel on freenode (#ixons) which I also

RE: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names,menu icons

2006-07-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 12:41 -0700, Bastian, Waldo wrote: I don't have a real opinion on that, you may be able to just add an $appname subdir to the existing icon-spec directory hierarchy. You mean something like $XDG_DATA_DIRS/icons/$appname? I don't think that's appropriate, as it would

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-30 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 11:44 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday 29 June 2006 09:09, you wrote: On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 01:47 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday 29 June 2006 01:22, Bastian, Waldo wrote: icons into a $XDG_DATA_DIRS location. It's ok to add these locations to

RE: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-30 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 07:59 -0700, Bastian, Waldo wrote: This probably doesn't make much difference (at least for now) for KDE apps and GNOME apps because they will continue to use their respective icon loaders to load the icons. But, what about third party apps? There needs to be standard so

RE: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-30 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 08:18 -0700, Bastian, Waldo wrote: http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/ Portland is a new Free Desktop initiative coming out of the OSDL Desktop Architects' Meeting (hosted in Portland, Oregon in December 2005). Portland intends to generate a common set of Linux

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 00:00 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: I don't see KDE needing to do a bunch of work erm. i do. and i'm going to guess i'm a bit more familiar with the code base? Well, my patch to implement this feature in GTK+ is a grand total of 4 lines of changes. The first of those is

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 16:30 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2006 16:23 schrieb Rodney Dawes: On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 06:56 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2006 00:54 schrieb James Richard Tyrer: This probably doesn't make much difference (at least

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 01:47 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday 29 June 2006 01:22, Bastian, Waldo wrote: icons into a $XDG_DATA_DIRS location. It's ok to add these locations to the search path ... aside from the performance penalty of having yet more paths to look at? we already

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 17:09 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2006 16:42 schrieb Rodney Dawes: Then why do we have a specification that says where to put icons at all? Why isn't this all just part of the loader documentation? Because we expect all desktops to show menus

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-29 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 17:39 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2006 17:16 schrieb Rodney Dawes: On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 17:09 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2006 16:42 schrieb Rodney Dawes: Then why do we have a specification that says where to put

RE: libxdg-vfs - screenshots

2006-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:08 -0700, Bastian, Waldo wrote: Sure, that's a problem, but you have that problem nowadays as well. Look at the usability of the system as a whole and you will find that it is horrible as long as you have different themes and button order settings between Gtk and Qt

RE: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:59 -0700, Bastian, Waldo wrote: I don't know why KDE chose: apps for the subdirectory when: kde would have been a better choice. KDE's file hierarchy is explained here: http://www.kde.org/areas/sysadmin/fsh.php The information here doesn't explain *why* the

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 22:18 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: Thiago Macieira wrote: Are you opposed to moving the stuff in share/apps to the share/ directory directly? Or were you just pointing out the page that contains some information about the KDE directory layout? Just wondering, as I am

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 00:26 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: If they are privately themed icons (your words) why should it matter where they put them? They are privately installed themable icons. If they are private, and it doesn't matter, then they aren't themed. Perhaps they are private for a

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 00:49 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: Sorry, I completely disagree. Why should application A care about application B's private files? They are *private* so they can: a) disappear from one version to the next b) change names c) be in a completely different format

Re: Multiple DeskTops, HiColor theme, standardized icon names, menu icons

2006-06-26 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 23:44 -0700, James Richard Tyrer wrote: and to standardize this they would go in: $XDG_DATA_DIR/apps/app_name/icons/theme/size/type If this is not part of the standard, SMcC's posting illustrates that GNOME does not have a standard way to deal with this and

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