Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-05-02 Thread nf2
Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 18:27 +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: - KIO, GIO and GnomeVFS. KIO is the I/O framework used by KDE since, at least, 1999. But the Gtk+ developers decided to go on their own and implement GIO without talking to KDE developers. GIO was

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: A KDE developer (his nick is 'nf2', I can't remember his name) Norbert Frese, but he is a GLib software stack developer (probably even a GNOME developer) and is only recently working on KDE code, i.e. the bridge you are referring to.

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 19:06 +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: by the way: GIO implements various fd.o specifications - the thumbnailing specification, the trash spec, the shared mime info spec, etc. exactly like KIO does. KIO and GIO

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-05-01 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 15:21 +0200, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 19:06 +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: by the way: GIO implements various fd.o specifications - the thumbnailing specification, the trash spec, the shared

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 15:21 +0200, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 19:06 +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: by the way: GIO implements various fd.o specifications - the

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-05-01 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Vincent Untz wrote: Nope. All versions are available on the website. See http://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/ for example. something that occured to me last night whilst striving for sleep: the website could provide a convenient agregated set of

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le mardi 29 avril 2008, à 16:54 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : more concretely, i propose: * a 'mainline' area for adopted versions of specs * a 'review' area for specifications that are through a given draft phase and ready to move to mainline * a 'drafts' area for

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 18:27 +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: - KIO, GIO and GnomeVFS. KIO is the I/O framework used by KDE since, at least, 1999. But the Gtk+ developers decided to go on their own and implement GIO without talking to KDE developers. GIO was developed while KDE was

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Quoting Emmanuele Bassi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 18:27 +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: - KIO, GIO and GnomeVFS. KIO is the I/O framework used by KDE since, at least, 1999. But the Gtk+ developers decided to go on their own and implement GIO without talking to KDE

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Jakob Petsovits
On Wednesday, 30. April 2008, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Long story short, it would be like this: if there is a fd.o spec for what you are doing and you are not using it, your app/library won't enter the official KDE/Gnome/whatever repository *unless* you provide good reasons for not

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 16:54 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: i completely support an open repository (git, svn .. *whatever*) for the specs where anyone involved can work in a branch until it's ready to merge into mainline. the merging would be done by the editors themselves. waiting on

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
Emmanuele Bassi wrote: at one point we must realize the fact that GNOME and KDE are built on two very different platforms; sharing specifications is possible - even welcomed, but sharing API is only possible at a very low level. Thank you! Hearing someone actually say this is like a breath

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 20:30 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 16:54 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: i completely support an open repository (git, svn .. *whatever*) for the specs where anyone involved can work in a branch until it's ready to merge into mainline. the

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Vincent Untz wrote: I pretty much agree with this. Except that, from what I understand in your mail, you want those areas to clearly appear in the repository. My idea was to just have all specs in the repository, and then have a simple file describing the status of

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 10:48 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: Emmanuele Bassi wrote: at one point we must realize the fact that GNOME and KDE are built on two very different platforms; sharing specifications is possible - even welcomed, but sharing API is only possible at

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 19:06 +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: by the way: GIO implements various fd.o specifications - the thumbnailing specification, the trash spec, the shared mime info spec, etc. exactly like KIO does. KIO and GIO

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 30 avril 2008, à 12:46 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Vincent Untz wrote: I pretty much agree with this. Except that, from what I understand in your mail, you want those areas to clearly appear in the repository. My idea was to just have all specs in

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 10:48 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone wrote: Emmanuele Bassi wrote: at one point we must realize the fact that GNOME and KDE are built on two very different platforms; sharing specifications is possible - even welcomed, but sharing API is only possible at a very low level.

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: A KDE developer (his nick is 'nf2', I can't remember his name) developed a GIO-KIO bridge which makes possible to use GIO plugins in KIO. It was not accepted in KDE, I can't remember why. timing, quality, readiness. there's no reason it

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mercredi 30 avril 2008, à 12:46 -0600, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : * it means havng multiple checkouts to see past accepted revisions; the problem with this is that you may be targetting a historical release of a spec; it's just convenient to

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 28 avril 2008, à 11:47 -0400, Rodney Dawes a écrit : On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 15:55 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, I've asked for the creation of a git repository to host all fd.o specs (will make things much easier). I think it'd make sense to send commit notifications to this

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-29 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 11:47 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 15:55 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, I've asked for the creation of a git repository to host all fd.o specs (will make things much easier). I think it'd make sense to send commit notifications to this list

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-29 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 15:55 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, I've asked for the creation of a git repository to host all fd.o specs (will make things much easier). I think it'd make sense to send commit notifications to this list since it will help people track the progress and the changes.

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-29 Thread Toni Ruottu
well, the reason behind having all specs in one repo is to have them all together, so that anyone wanting to do a change can get all of them from the same place. Right now it seems to be hard to know where the source of the spec is, so is there any way you could continue maintaining your spec

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-29 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 29 April 2008, Toni Ruottu wrote: spec as you do now but have the latest version always in the shared git repo? That is how people usually work with distributed version control tools. while this is awesome for source code where forking and working on branches is good for obvious

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-29 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mardi 29 avril 2008, à 21:43 +0300, Toni Ruottu a écrit : Untz, do you have a reason for preferring GIT over Bazaar? I'm not saying GIT is bad, I just want the choices to be discussed. We ought to choose the one that best fits our needs. I don't care that much about the vcs, to be honest.

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-29 Thread Toni Ruottu
you specifically *don't* want specifications to fork and be worked on randomly; there is a low rate of edit conflict; having a clearly canonical version is critical Ok. It may be that dvcs would we a wrong solution for a real problem. What I'm really concerned about is how hard it is

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-29 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 29 April 2008, you wrote: you specifically *don't* want specifications to fork and be worked on randomly; there is a low rate of edit conflict; having a clearly canonical version is critical Ok. It may be that dvcs would we a wrong solution for a real problem. What I'm

Re: Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-28 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 15:55 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Hi, I've asked for the creation of a git repository to host all fd.o specs (will make things much easier). I think it'd make sense to send commit notifications to this list since it will help people track the progress and the changes.

Commit notifications for specs

2008-04-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, I've asked for the creation of a git repository to host all fd.o specs (will make things much easier). I think it'd make sense to send commit notifications to this list since it will help people track the progress and the changes. What do people think? An obvious alternative is to create a