Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-29 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi Florent, It is not really up to the application developper. It is more up to how the JobViewer while behave on new jobs (i.e. will it pop up the jobview window, will it behave silently with a notification icon...). So even if it is not state literally in the spec, you'll not really have

Re: Re : JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-27 Thread Florent Mertens
Hi Aaron and Rafael, I'll not reply point by point, because i think that we don't really have the same point of view on how things should works. If i understand correctly, you idea is to get ride of all progress bar of all applications and to have a common application for controlling this

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-27 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi Florent, If i understand correctly, you idea is to get ride of all progress bar of all applications and to have a common application for controlling this progress. This sound cool, but i don't think that this is the right approch, i'll do my best to explain why. I probably misexplained

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-27 Thread Florent Mertens
Rafael Fernández López a écrit : Hi Florent, If i understand correctly, you idea is to get ride of all progress bar of all applications and to have a common application for controlling this progress. This sound cool, but i don't think that this is the right approch, i'll do my best to

Re : JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-24 Thread Florent Mertens
Hi all, I would like to start to work on a specification proposal for Freedesktop that we have named JobViewServer/JobView. The goal of this specification is being able of implementing this idea http://dot.kde.org/1169588301. This is really a good idea. We and David Sedeño (from gwget) are

Fwd: Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-24 Thread Florent Mertens
Le jeudi 10 avril 2008, Rafael Fernández López a écrit : Hi, I propse a 'middle case' solution. Bring a default ones 'bytes', 'files', 'folders', 'contacts', 'mails', 'events', for example, and tell in the docs what you've proposed. That if the developer wants another 'amount type',

Re: Re : JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 24 April 2008, Florent Mertens wrote: 1. Client app don't show a progress window/bar, and provide it only via the JobView server 2. Client app still show a progress window/bar, and provide it also via the JobView server isn't this an implementation detail for the application to

Re: Fwd: Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Ethan Osten wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:40 +0200, Rafael Fernández López wrote: However I really agree this is for sure not the best solution. What other alternatives we have assuring that they are cross-desktop ? Specify some file type, perhaps based on the

Re: Fwd: Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-10 Thread Olivier Goffart
Le jeudi 10 avril 2008, Rafael Fernández López a écrit : Hi, I propse a 'middle case' solution. Bring a default ones 'bytes', 'files', 'folders', 'contacts', 'mails', 'events', for example, and tell in the docs what you've proposed. That if the developer wants another 'amount type', it would

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 08 April 2008, Rafael Fernández López wrote: The main idea is that when an application needs a new amount type, we review the specification (if the change is for that purpose we can update it almost inmediatly if the new type has sense, and notify all interested parties). that

Re: Fwd: Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-09 Thread Ethan Osten
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:40 +0200, Rafael Fernández López wrote: However I really agree this is for sure not the best solution. What other alternatives we have assuring that they are cross-desktop ? Specify some file type, perhaps based on the same principle as desktop files, with allowance

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-08 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi, Interface, signal, method, and property names are WindowsStyleCaps, note that the first letter is capitalized, unlike Java. So, it shouldn't it be eg. org.freedesktop.JobView.Terminate instead? Yes, in theory, they should. I completely agree. Also, regarding

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-05 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi all, At this point I plan to do a really verbose explanation of the D-Bus interface that we designed with everybody in mind. Obviously this interface will probably need improvements and corrections. After designing this interface, we implemented it, so we have a real and working example to

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-02 Thread Lubos Lunak
On Tuesday 01 of April 2008, A. Walton wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Rafael Fernández López Maybe it's just me, but I've always found Mathusalem to be a bit obtuse, as it'd require writing a lot of special-case code for something that's little more than a very long running

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-02 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 02 April 2008, Lubos Lunak wrote: On Tuesday 01 of April 2008, A. Walton wrote: What really needs to happen, IMO, is an expansion of this existing standard and code to allow it to be flexible enough to be used with Just having something listed from fd.o does not make it a

galago notification spec (Was: JobViewServer specification proposal)

2008-04-02 Thread Olivier Goffart
Le mercredi 2 avril 2008, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : On Tuesday 01 April 2008, A. Walton wrote: [...] and now on to the galago spec: And it just so happens FD.O already has a specification for notifications [1], a daemon and client implementation, and it's well adopted code in the GNOME

JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-01 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi all, I would like to start to work on a specification proposal for Freedesktop that we have named JobViewServer/JobView. The goal of this specification is being able of implementing this idea http://dot.kde.org/1169588301. Regarding this issue there are currently two main applications on

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-01 Thread A. Walton
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Rafael Fernández López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I would like to start to work on a specification proposal for Freedesktop that we have named JobViewServer/JobView. The goal of this specification is being able of implementing this idea

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-01 Thread Vlad
Hi, --- Rafael Fernández López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I would like to start to work on a specification proposal for Freedesktop that we have named JobViewServer/JobView. The goal of this specification is being able of implementing this idea http://dot.kde.org/1169588301.

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-01 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi, Don't forget KGet ;) I think it would be great if kuiserver can take on all the features of KGet, or alternatively if KGet can be modified so that it uses this new DBus interface you are proposing. In the latter scenario, which might be better given the large amount of work that has

Re: JobViewServer specification proposal

2008-04-01 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi, What really needs to happen, IMO, is an expansion of this existing standard and code to allow it to be flexible enough to be used with very long running applications. Not a lot needs to change to make this happen either: to make the notification not expire until we want it to, set the