Re: [TextShare] - proposal to make a desktop-wide format for text

2008-06-19 Thread François Revol
On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Liam R E Quin wrote: For this to work, we need cross-desktop agreement on a format for the text. Since most clipboard mechanisms let applications give a list of available formats, this format need not be the only (or even preferred) format for all applications,

Re: [TextShare] - proposal to make a desktop-wide format for text

2008-06-19 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 21:15 +0200, François Revol wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Liam R E Quin wrote: For this to work, we need cross-desktop agreement on a format for the text. Since most clipboard mechanisms let applications give a list of available formats, this format need not

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-06-19 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 09:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 12:35 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: As long as providing such a [base]+[emblem] icon is always optional for the icon theme, this might work out nicely. I think the language in your patch is not optimal

Re: [TextShare] - proposal to make a desktop-wide format for text

2008-06-19 Thread François Revol
Well, other candidates could be possible, like PDF, but it doesn't maintain a real logical sturcture AFAIK. In my experience, pasting formatted text seems to work reasonably well. Granted, I don't do a lot of word processing, so my experience is generally limited to copying from a web

Re: [TextShare] - proposal to make a desktop-wide format for text

2008-06-19 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday 19 June 2008, François Revol wrote: On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Liam R E Quin wrote: For this to work, we need cross-desktop agreement on a format for the text. Since most clipboard mechanisms let applications give a list of available formats, this format need not be the

Re: [TextShare] - proposal to make a desktop-wide format for text

2008-06-19 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 21:59 +0200, François Revol wrote: Well, other candidates could be possible, like PDF, but it doesn't maintain a real logical sturcture AFAIK. In my experience, pasting formatted text seems to work reasonably well. Granted, I don't do a lot of word

Re: [TextShare] - proposal to make a desktop-wide format for text

2008-06-19 Thread François Revol
I already had issues copying text from a browser window to a text form in another window... it embedded links without showing, so I ended up posting a href=fooa href=bar... What application were you pasting into? I just copied some formatted text from Epiphany, then pasted it

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-06-19 Thread A. Walton
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Rodney Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 09:14 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 12:35 +0200, Jakob Petsovits wrote: As long as providing such a [base]+[emblem] icon is always optional for the icon theme, this might

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-06-19 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 15:49 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: How is using a + any different from a - in this situation? Shouldn't we provide the icon, and the emblem (in their appropriate contexts), and the implementation then do what it needs with them? Why wouldn't the implementation just load

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-06-19 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 18:03 -0400, A. Walton wrote: The problem I see here is with the definition of emblems in the icon naming spec being too limited. There are a huge number of conceivable cases where having a representative concept overlaid with another makes sense. Take a look at some

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-06-19 Thread A. Walton
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 18:03 -0400, A. Walton wrote: The problem I see here is with the definition of emblems in the icon naming spec being too limited. There are a huge number of conceivable cases where having a

Re: Icon names vs. emblems

2008-06-19 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 20:38 -0400, A. Walton wrote: Both changes are small and smallish API changes may be required, but could both be ignored by existing applications without much trouble. Implementations would have to deal with how to carry around emblems (in our case, GIcon hides the

Re: [TextShare] - proposal to make a desktop-wide format for text

2008-06-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 21:59 +0200, François Revol wrote: [...] It seems the most common, but not every app will want to have an html or xml parser just for pasting... Most already have an XML parser these days, e.g. for libglade, for ODF (which is in XML), etc etc. ... even Pango uses an XML

Re: [TextShare] - proposal to make a desktop-wide format for text

2008-06-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 22:21 +0200, Kevin Krammer wrote: [...] I have to admit that I might have misunderstood the purpose of the thread, since some other comments indicate that other people understand it as looking for solutions regarding simple formatting, not HTML or word processor like