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Hi, We are integrating our applications to menu desktop for virtual machines possibly use of Grome or XFCE. I've looked at the document in http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html, appreciate if anyone can help to answer following questions: (1) How can we control displaying applications on menu based on group? We'd like to display different applications on menu for different groups, for example, group1 may see app11, app12, app13...on menu and group2 may see application21, app22, app23, ... on menu. The document has a Group headers in the format [groupname], can this be used for group access control? If so, could anyone point me or give an example of what is the key and value and what is the format? (2) How can we control displaying applications on menu based on individual user? Is it possible to set up menu entry to display certain applications on menu for certain users? UserA may be able to see app1, app2, userB may only be see app3? Which key may can be used for controlling the users access? OnlyShowIn and NotShowIn? Or TryExec? Or Action? Thank you. Kind regards. j ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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On Friday 14 April 2006 00:44, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 21:07 +0200, Kevin Krammer wrote: In case you are referring to xdg-mime from the xdg-utils package, it does whatever the running desktop's utility does :) I am referring to that, yes. But what does it do, if one is writing a new desktop, whose behavior is meant to be defined by these specifications? Does it do the intended lookup via mimeinfo.cache? As Waldo wrote a new desktop can provide its own xdg-utils implementation at first and/or merge their thing in the main version. However I am confident that this will consolidate into a shared specification as well, so from some point on there would be a single xdg-mime implementation sufficient for all desktops following that spec. New desktops would then be advised to also implement this spec rather than to extend/replace xdg-mime Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qt/KDE Developer, Debian User Moderator: www.mrunix.de (German), www.qtcentre.org ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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On Friday 14 April 2006 09:26, Bastian, Waldo wrote: Yes, that's a good point. The shared mime spec is definitly where we want to go and it would be an ill-adviced decision for a desktop to come up with a different way. Xdg-mime is in the first place a way to speed up that transition process from an application point of view. To achieve that, I would like to add to xdg-mime a way to install shared mime-spec compliant mime-type definitions. For desktop's that don't support the shared mime-spec yet (KDE 3, old Gnome versions) xdg-mime could then convert it into the legacy format required by those environments. I think I can manage the KDE3 part, but it would be of great help if at least one GNOME developer would also participate in Portland Project activities. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qt/KDE Developer, Debian User Moderator: www.mrunix.de (German), www.qtcentre.org pgpzjFCRsFhyB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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I went through the freedesktop specs on MIME. I'd like to know if there is any way by which I can query the database to know which application is to be used for a specific MIME type? I did check out the current Implementors section and even downloaded the corresponding apps, but none of them seem to work. In general, is there any way to query the MIME database to know which application is suitable for a specific MIME type? esp in KDE I hope to receive a reply Thanks Nupul ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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On Thursday 13 April 2006 08:06, nupul kukreja wrote: I went through the freedesktop specs on MIME. I'd like to know if there is any way by which I can query the database to know which application is to be used for a specific MIME type? I did check out the current Implementors section and even downloaded the corresponding apps, but none of them seem to work. In general, is there any way to query the MIME database to know which application is suitable for a specific MIME type? esp in KDE In KDE meaning for a programm running in KDE or a KDE program? Cheers, Kevin pgp4YY1YBTsq1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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On Thursday 13 April 2006 08:06, nupul kukreja wrote: I went through the freedesktop specs on MIME. I'd like to know if there is any way by which I can query the database to know which application is to be used for a specific MIME type? I did check out the current Implementors section and even downloaded the corresponding apps, but none of them seem to work. In general, is there any way to query the MIME database to know which application is suitable for a specific MIME type? esp in KDE - go in /usr/share/applications - in mimeinfo.cache search for your mime-type - in the same dir look into the appropriate file *.desktop Is this of any help or are you asking for something different? --Luca ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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- go in /usr/share/applications - in mimeinfo.cache search for your mime-type - in the same dir look into the appropriate file *.desktop Well Luca thanks a millionyup it did help me solve my doubt...but got another one ;) if a new application is installed, and has its own file associations/MIME type etc, does it update the data in this folder viz /usr/share/applications? eg. Say my software uses a custom format .asdf files. Do I need to update the mimeinfo.cache as well as add my .desktop file to this folder? If you search for .desktop files on your system you'll find a lot more than those in the above directory. Why is this? Thanks for the prompt reply. Nupul On 4/13/06, Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 April 2006 08:06, nupul kukreja wrote: I went through the freedesktop specs on MIME. I'd like to know if there is any way by which I can query the database to know which application is to be used for a specific MIME type? I did check out the current Implementors section and even downloaded the corresponding apps, but none of them seem to work. In general, is there any way to query the MIME database to know which application is suitable for a specific MIME type? esp in KDE - go in /usr/share/applications - in mimeinfo.cache search for your mime-type - in the same dir look into the appropriate file *.desktop Is this of any help or are you asking for something different? --Luca ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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On Thursday 13 April 2006 11:12, Luca Dionisi wrote: On Thursday 13 April 2006 08:06, nupul kukreja wrote: I went through the freedesktop specs on MIME. I'd like to know if there is any way by which I can query the database to know which application is to be used for a specific MIME type? I did check out the current Implementors section and even downloaded the corresponding apps, but none of them seem to work. In general, is there any way to query the MIME database to know which application is suitable for a specific MIME type? esp in KDE - go in /usr/share/applications - in mimeinfo.cache search for your mime-type Not sure this is used in KDE3. KDE will change to the shared mime info database for KDE4. So it depends if this file is one of this spec Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qt/KDE Developer, Debian User Moderator: www.mrunix.de (German), www.qtcentre.org pgpFMNVVh480T.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:14:19 +0530, nupul kukreja wrote: Well Luca thanks a millionyup it did help me solve my doubt... I'm afraid that won't work. Multiple applications can handle the same file types, and then the user can choose between them in their file manager or select a default. Information on which the default is ISN'T provided by any standard or specified mechanism, deliberately! The problem is, if you can read this data you can really write to it too, and on Windows there have always been problems with programs fighting over file associations. So Linux uses a different scheme, in which the defaults are a desktop private thing and apps can't control that. All they can do is say I support files of type foo. So, to actually open a file from your application requires you to use gnome/kde specific APIs right now :( Sad I know but you can see how we got here. The Portland project is working on an abstraction layer that will provide a unified API to all this. Go Portland! For now try gnome-open or kfmclient. eg. Say my software uses a custom format .asdf files. Do I need to update the mimeinfo.cache as well as add my .desktop file to this folder? No, drop it in the right place and run update-desktop-database. Of course if you have defined your own .asdf files, you need a custom asdf mime type and a way to detect these files ... preferably by their contents but extensions are OK too. So you'll need to write an XML file for your file type, drop it in the right place then run update-mime-database too :) If you search for .desktop files on your system you'll find a lot more than those in the above directory. Why is this? They're used for all kinds of things, not just registering programs with the system. A historical oddity, ignore it. thanks -mike ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
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The point is that it does the lookup, how it does the lookup is up to whoever makes this new desktop. That person just has to make sure to provide a version of xdg-mime that works on this new desktop. Waldo Bastian Linux Client Architect - Client Linux Foundation Technology Channel Platform Solutions Group Intel Corporation - http://www.intel.com/go/linux OSDL DTL Tech Board Chairman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:xdg- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney Dawes Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:45 PM To: Kevin Krammer Cc: xdg@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: (no subject) On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 21:07 +0200, Kevin Krammer wrote: In case you are referring to xdg-mime from the xdg-utils package, it does whatever the running desktop's utility does :) I am referring to that, yes. But what does it do, if one is writing a new desktop, whose behavior is meant to be defined by these specifications? Does it do the intended lookup via mimeinfo.cache? -- dobey ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
