Re: OSD symbols

2010-01-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
On Thursday, 10 de December de 2009 20:46:23 Rodney Dawes wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:07 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 03:38:15 pm Rodney Dawes wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:07 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 03:38:15 pm Rodney Dawes wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Steiner wrote on 02/12/09 22:55: ... What the

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-10 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:01 +, Nuno Pinheiro wrote: this may be a very silly idea but i thought i should share, couldn't it make sense to simply make a font with all the symbols you need, as i told you guys KDE is probably going to implement this type of icons inside plasma specific

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-10 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 03:38:15 pm Rodney Dawes wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Steiner wrote on 02/12/09 22:55: ... What the important part here is that the color isn't defined in the

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-09 Thread Luca
Il giorno mer, 02/12/2009 alle 15.14 +0100, Jakub Steiner ha scritto: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: To do it properly you'll need a glyph drawing mode for icons. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591698 Perhaps that is indeed the way

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Jakub Steiner wrote on 02/12/09 22:55: ... What the important part here is that the color isn't defined in the icon itself, it's up to the widget theme to define in all sorts of different contexts like we have it for text. Eg.

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-08 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:43 +, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Steiner wrote on 02/12/09 22:55: ... What the important part here is that the color isn't defined in the icon itself, it's up to the widget theme to define in all sorts of

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-07 Thread Jakub Steiner
Maybe, but then someone would have to maintain a color naming specification (however simple) alongside the icon naming specification. I know of only one attempt to do something similar: CSS system colors, which was a failure. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/ui.html#system-colors We'd need to

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-06 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Steiner wrote on 02/12/09 22:55: ... What the important part here is that the color isn't defined in the icon itself, it's up to the widget theme to define in all sorts of different contexts like we have it for text. Eg. panel, menu, toolbar,

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-03 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@sinecera.de wrote: Just having a stroke with one colour is not always enough, if you ask me. So called monochrome icons might also need to add a darker/lighter inset/outset at times to help define things. Ted, any ideas on how to define

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 14:18 +0100, Jakub Steiner wrote: Hi folks! Over the past few years I sensed a need for a less 'noisy' and colorful style for graphical representation of certain actions and status. Blown up icons for on screen display when you increase brightness, attach a display,

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: You should compare comparable things. The first screenshot is from gnome-settings-daemon without any compositing manager. Enable a compositing manager and it will certainly look different. Added a screenshot of the OD in

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 14:47 +0100, Jakub Steiner wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: You should compare comparable things. The first screenshot is from gnome-settings-daemon without any compositing manager. Enable a compositing manager and it will

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Jakub Steiner jim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks! Over the past few years I sensed a need for a less 'noisy' and colorful style for graphical representation of certain actions and status. Blown up icons for on screen display when you increase brightness, attach

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: To do it properly you'll need a glyph drawing mode for icons. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591698 Perhaps that is indeed the way to go. I would have personally thought injecting a stylesheet path { fill:

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 15:14 +0100, Jakub Steiner wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: To do it properly you'll need a glyph drawing mode for icons. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591698 Perhaps that is indeed the way to go. I

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 15:36 +0100, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: Bastien Nocera wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24178/osd/composited.png bluetooth-discoverable is useless I was thinking of mobile - there's curently no bluetooth status icons in the spec. Some netbooks include a bluetooth

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:42 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 15:14 +0100, Jakub Steiner wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: To do it properly you'll need a glyph drawing mode for icons.

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
Bastien Nocera wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24178/osd/composited.png bluetooth-discoverable is useless I was thinking of mobile - there's curently no bluetooth status icons in the spec. Some netbooks include a bluetooth switch and on mobiles people usually toggle bluetooth for battery

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Martin Bagge / brother brot...@bsnet.se wrote: Bastien Nocera wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24178/osd/composited.png bluetooth-discoverable is useless I was thinking of mobile - there's curently no bluetooth status icons in the spec. Some netbooks include a

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 15:36 +0100, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: Bastien Nocera wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24178/osd/composited.png bluetooth-discoverable is useless I was thinking of mobile - there's curently no bluetooth status icons in the spec. Some netbooks

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 04:05:59 pm Ted Gould wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:42 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 15:14 +0100, Jakub Steiner wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: To do it properly you'll need a glyph

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:05 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: I don't think anything replacing individual colors is going to work very well in general. I was thinking you'd probably have to do something the color rotation in the gimp: convert to hls, rotate to map hue in icon to hue of theme

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@sinecera.de wrote: Most important will be the foreground colors like normal, prelight, active, selected and insensitive. To keep things simple, we should treat the symbols as monochrome, ie. only one color is used and the symbol would be

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:52:13 +0100 Jakub Steiner jim...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@sinecera.de wrote: Most important will be the foreground colors like normal, prelight, active, selected and insensitive. To keep things simple, we should treat the

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 11:48 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:05 -0600, Ted Gould wrote: I don't think anything replacing individual colors is going to work very well in general. I was thinking you'd probably have to do something the color rotation in the gimp:

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: WRT icons wanting to use shades of particular colors or other things for highlights, that can be achieved using SVG filters.  I don't believe that rsvg supports the color map filter today, but fixing that would probably be better

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 11:55:13 pm Jakub Steiner wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote: WRT icons wanting to use shades of particular colors or other things for highlights, that can be achieved using SVG filters. I don't believe that rsvg supports the

Re: OSD symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Ted Gould
First things first. There is NEVER a bad time for an Inkscape 0.47 feature tour. Wedding, out drinking with friends, colonoscopy. All good times to bring up the goodness that is Inkscape 0.47. :) On Dec 2, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@sinecera.de wrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2009