Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Yves Codet
Hello. A question to specialists, Arthur and Mojca maybe :) Is it necessary to have two sets of hyphenation rules, one in NFC and one in NFD? Or, if hyphenation patterns are written in NFC, for instance, will they be applied correctly to a document written in NFD? Regards, Yves

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 09:36, Yves Codet wrote: Hello. A question to specialists, Arthur and Mojca maybe :) Is it necessary to have two sets of hyphenation rules, one in NFC and one in NFD? Or, if hyphenation patterns are written in NFC, for instance, will they be applied correctly to a

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Jonathan Kew
On 12 Sep 2011, at 08:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 09:36, Yves Codet wrote: Hello. A question to specialists, Arthur and Mojca maybe :) Is it necessary to have two sets of hyphenation rules, one in NFC and one in NFD? Or, if hyphenation patterns are written in NFC,

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
Dear Phil, You should know better. :-) In 1993 you invited me to give a talk about hyphenation at RHBNC. I started out my lecture by demolishing the old chestnut that British is hyphenated etymologically while American isn't. Reality is much more blurry. Hugh Williamson got it right, as so

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:09, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:  I wish I understood more about the duplicate apostophe problem, in order to be able to offer a more directly relevant (and constructive) comment : Google throws up nothing relevant. Users type '

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
I've just had a stimulating conversation about this with my friend and fellow Sanskritist, Alessandro Graheli (who also reads this XeTeX list, and is doing critical editions of Sanskrit texts with XeTeX). Alessandro was concerned that I overstated the case. He has used the existing Codet/Kew

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Why do you type Ret'd they're helico-pter instead of Ret’d they’re “helico-pter” ? You are unicode-aware, aren't you? Mojca Unicode-aware, but not Unicode-typing. This (like my earlier reply) is typed on an IBM Model M keyboard (the real thing, clicky, dating from

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
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Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Dominik Wujastyk wrote: Gasp! A CRT! Sir. You have the honour to be communicating with (in the words of my former manager, David Sweeney) a DINOSAUR. What else would you expect a dinosaur to use but an IBM Model M clicky keyboard and a 19 CRT monitor ?! ** Phil, still wondering what

Re: [XeTeX] bug using \underbrace with unicode-math package

2011-09-12 Thread Daniel Greenhoe
Hi Philip, Thank you very much for your suggestion. I did try what you said, but it doesn't fix the problem on my system. I now get three rotated question marks under the xyz and still no underbrace. My test file and output can be downloaded from here:

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread alessandro graheli
Thanks to Dominik for presenting my needs for hyphenating romanised Sanskrit according to the syllabic division of Sanskrit traditional phonetics. For a number of reasons, in my philologically-oriented work I prefer to typeset Sanskrit words as faithfully as possible to the sources, and

[XeTeX] Is this a bug in xelatex/xdvipdfmx ?

2011-09-12 Thread rhino64
Hi All, Few years ago, I have bought few fonts type 1 from Bitstream. Even, if they are only type 1, they are sufficient for most of the documents I have to write. When I want to use them with all the TeX engines (pdflatex, lualatex, latex+dvips+ps2pdf) I get normal results. But when I try

Re: [XeTeX] Is this a bug in xelatex/xdvipdfmx ?

2011-09-12 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/9/12 rhin...@postmail.ch: Hi All,    Few years ago, I have bought few fonts type 1 from Bitstream. Even, if they are only type 1, they are sufficient for most of the documents I have to write. When I want to use them with all the TeX engines (pdflatex, lualatex, latex+dvips+ps2pdf)

Re: [XeTeX] Hyphenation in Transliterated Sanskrit

2011-09-12 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
Alessandro and I agree to disagree about the issue of philological correctness. I think that hyphenating following etymology, lexicon and morphemic boundaries is *more* philological than break after a vowel. I think what Alessandro means by philology in this case is that he is influenced by the

[XeTeX] Longtable package

2011-09-12 Thread Heba Soliman
Dear Mr Vafa: Longtable package doesn't want to work in RTL mode do you know a way that I can let it do. Your quick reply will be highly appreciated. This is a sample TeX file: \documentclass{amsbook} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[silent,quiet,no-math]{fontspec} \usepackage{longtable}

[XeTeX] Fwd: Longtable package

2011-09-12 Thread Heba Soliman
-- Forwarded message -- From: Heba Soliman heba.soli...@afec.org Date: Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:08 PM Subject: Longtable package To: xetex@tug.org, v...@users.berlios.de Dear Mr Vafa: Longtable package doesn't want to work in RTL mode do you know a way that I can let it do. Your

[XeTeX] Traditional poem

2011-09-12 Thread Heba Soliman
Dear All: I have a traditional poem with one line that has two short verses then one long centered verse, the package measures the longest one and makes the short verses as long as it. Is there a way to prevent such work so all the poetry will be justified with kashida and ignores the one

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
Comparative dinosaurism Completely by chance today, I came across one of my old files that had a bunch of 8 floppies in it. Hah! (And I've got a slide rule too.) I win! Dominik On 12 September 2011 15:00, maxwell maxw...@umiacs.umd.edu wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:46:11 +0100, Philip

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread Tobias Schoel
Shouldn't real dinosaurs (real as in MTV Real Life) calculate using only the Peano Axioms and the unary system? I mean, the natural numbers and the peano axioms are nature given / god given (choose whatever you like) and every human before homo sapiens had only the cognitive capabilities to

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread maxwell
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:40:57 +0200, Tobias Schoel liesdieda...@googlemail.com wrote: Shouldn't real dinosaurs (real as in MTV Real Life) calculate using only the Peano Axioms and the unary system? I believe binary arithmetic was introduced somewhere in the pre-Cambrian. This was because when

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Tobias Schoel wrote: Shouldn't real dinosaurs (real as in MTV Real Life) calculate using only the Peano Axioms and the unary system? I mean, the natural numbers and the peano axioms are nature given / god given (choose whatever you like) and every human before homo sapiens had only the

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/9/12 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: Tobias Schoel wrote: Shouldn't real dinosaurs (real as in MTV Real Life) calculate using only the Peano Axioms and the unary system? I mean, the natural numbers and the peano axioms are nature given / god given (choose

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread Barry MacKichan
Ok, I'll contribute to this one. I learned programming on a IBM clone --a clone of an IBM 1620 at Oregon State University in 1960. We wrote a few programs and then were told about a fabulous new tool called SOAP, the symbolic optimum assembly program. No more memorizing the numbers of machine

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread Peter Baker
Cool discussion! It's the first thing in years that's actually made me feel young. Peter Baker Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com wrote: Ok, I'll contribute to this one. I learned programming on a IBM clone --a clone of an IBM 1620

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread Janusz S. Bień
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com wrote: [...] All input was on paper tape. The equivalent of the delete key, as I recall, was opaque tape that you could stick on the paper tape. Or punching all the holes in the row. My first computer was GIER

Re: [XeTeX] Dinosaurs

2011-09-12 Thread Shrisha Rao
El sep 13, 2011, a las 3:00 a.m., Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) escribió: Tobias Schoel wrote: Shouldn't real dinosaurs (real as in MTV Real Life) calculate using only the Peano Axioms and the unary system? I mean, the natural numbers and the peano axioms are nature given / god given