On 31/7/12 10:39, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Zdenek Wagner zdenek.wag...@gmail.com wrote:
So as you all can see it cuts both ways. I vote is to gradually switch to
Lua(La)TeX. I believe that it can become the
future.
It can if other scripts become supported.
On 12-07-31 11:34, Jonathan Kew wrote:
...of misinformation, I'm afraid.
Indeed.
Keith J. Schultz keithjschu...@web.de wrote:
Let us take ATSUI. Why has Apple abandon it? Well, I do not believe
there are are any native ATT-fonts in the MacOS X any more.
Most complex-script fonts (Arabic, Indic
Am 31.07.2012 um 01:19 schrieb Zdenek Wagner:
Yes, I know. Similarly as XeTeX can set \pdfpageheight and
\pdfpagewidth (or use \special{papersize=...}) there might be a
similar \special for setting PDF version and compression but such
\special's do not exist.
For very good reason!
For very good reason! \pdfminorversion is not only some monadic number,
it's also a guarantee that this document conforms to a particular standard.
Not really. In pdfTeX the version enables certain features (object
streams, png inclusion).
But no guarantee is made for included pdfs: At most
2012/7/31 Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de:
For very good reason! \pdfminorversion is not only some monadic number,
it's also a guarantee that this document conforms to a particular standard.
Not really. In pdfTeX the version enables certain features (object
streams, png inclusion).
But no
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 01:32:31PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
2012/7/31 Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de:
For very good reason! \pdfminorversion is not only some monadic number,
it's also a guarantee that this document conforms to a particular standard.
Not really. In pdfTeX the
Am 31.07.2012 um 11:06 schrieb Keith J. Schultz keithjschu...@web.de:
One of the reasons why I stopped using LaTeX was its lack of support for
system fonts.
Xe(La)TeX change all that. Yet, when I look at fontspec, I said what in all
hell do I have to
do all that (setting up all kinds of
On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
ATSUI is used by the engine on mac to support AAT fonts, also
corresponding services are used for finding system fonts. It is possible
to disable all Mac specific code and build XeTeX as if it was another
Unix (I think MacPorts does this, on 64
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
exceptional cases or for certain special needs like font variants, color
etc. (OK, speaking from the perspective of a user who don't need
languages with non-latin scripts …)
There's the rub. Non-Latin scripts are a big part of the constituency of
On 31/7/12 13:26, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
There's the rub. Non-Latin scripts are a big part of the constituency of
XeTeX. I routinely have to manually activate Korean-specific OpenType
features that are specified to be default but that XeTeX/fontspec doesn't
activate by default, just
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Jonathan Kew wrote:
On 31/7/12 13:26, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
There's the rub. Non-Latin scripts are a big part of the constituency of
XeTeX. I routinely have to manually activate Korean-specific OpenType
features that are specified to be default but that
On 31/7/12 14:36, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Jonathan Kew wrote:
On 31/7/12 13:26, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
There's the rub. Non-Latin scripts are a big part of the constituency of
XeTeX. I routinely have to manually activate Korean-specific OpenType
features
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 01:02:04PM +0200, Peter Dyballa wrote:
Am 31.07.2012 um 01:19 schrieb Zdenek Wagner:
Yes, I know. Similarly as XeTeX can set \pdfpageheight and
\pdfpagewidth (or use \special{papersize=...}) there might be a
similar \special for setting PDF version and
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 02:54:29PM +0100, Jonathan Kew wrote:
On 31/7/12 14:36, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Jonathan Kew wrote:
On 31/7/12 13:26, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
There's the rub. Non-Latin scripts are a big part of the constituency of
XeTeX. I
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 03:54:38PM +0200, Heiko Oberdiek wrote:
It is more difficult to create PDF/X
compliant file because I have to create XDV and then specify the PDF
version when calling xdvipdfmx but pdftex can set it directly.
Pdftex is the creator of the PDF file. It can
Khaled Hosny wrote:
I wish people could just ignore what Mr Dyballa writes, as most of time
he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
/Ad hominem/ attacks, justified or not, reflect more badly on
those levelling the accusation than they do on the individual named.
Philip Taylor
On 31/7/12 15:09, Khaled Hosny wrote:
What is the difference between XeTeXHanLayoutEngine and ICU's
HanOpenTypeLayoutEngine? In other words, would it be enough to just use
ICU's Hangul engine, or there are adjustments needed?
IIRC, XeTeXHanLayoutEngine adds support for user-specified
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 03:56:47PM +0100, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Khaled Hosny wrote:
I wish people could just ignore what Mr Dyballa writes, as most of time
he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
/Ad hominem/ attacks, justified or not, reflect more badly on
those levelling
Hi Jonathan, All,
I have to disagree with you! Yet, the disagreement is on fundementals.
Apple, themselves state that MOST of the ATSUI features are no longer supported.
You can get some of that functionality back using Core Text, though most you
will have to by hand using Core Graphics.
Also,
Hi Joachim,
Am 31.07.2012 um 13:46 schrieb Joachim Trinkwitz j...@uni-bonn.de:
Am 31.07.2012 um 11:06 schrieb Keith J. Schultz keithjschu...@web.de:
One of the reasons why I stopped using LaTeX was its lack of support for
system fonts.
Xe(La)TeX change all that. Yet, when I look at
How nasty of you, Phil to insult Khaled for rebuking Dyballa. Ooops! What
does that say about me? ...
On 31 July 2012 16:56, Philip TAYLOR p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:
Khaled Hosny wrote:
I wish people could just ignore what Mr Dyballa writes, as most of time
he has absolutely no idea what
On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
except micro-type goe sway beyond Gutenbergs resolution!
Sure, if one chooses to use sp to define such, but one defines in terms of an
em-square (the utility of the sp is that it forecloses on rounding issues).
You're not going to have a
Dominik Wujastyk wrote:
How nasty of you, Phil to insult Khaled for rebuking Dyballa. Ooops!
What does that say about me? ...
Well, as my good friend Mr Churchill might have said (had he not
been too busy mongering), This is the depth of level down to
which I will not sink
** P.
So, as a simple ol' (stress on the simple, well, maybe the old as well)
XeTeX/XeLaTeX user I have 2 questions for the gurus and cognoscenti in the
group.
Is XeLaTeX/XeTex currently supported within the community? If not, is there a
good chance that it will go away/become incompatible/unusable
2012/7/31 David Perry hospes.pri...@verizon.net:
On 7/31/2012 11:59 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:
No where is it stated in the manual that you do not need to set up the
font families.
I'll grant that the Fontspec manual can be intimidating, especially for
newcomers to TeX (as I was when I
Hi Adrian,
Xe(La)TeX will be around from quite some time. If I see things
right many features are still being developed or expanded.
Will it go away or die? Eventually, maybe. Who knows? I mean TeX
is still around.
regards
Keith.
Am 31.07.2012 um 22:14 schrieb Adrian Burd
Hi William,
You are only partially correct. Yes, you can create very fine structures
off the glyphs. Yet, is only a part of the picture.
You forget interword spacing and kerning. Gutenberg, could never match
the resolution of microtype.
Of course, the whole line could be done by hand, but how
It says everywhere that luatex supports UTF-8, yet my (very
limited) understanding is that Unicode string support in *lua*
is entirely dependent on third party additions.
LuaTeX includes such a third-party addition for UTF-8 string
processing, called Selene
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