Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-03 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
You may not get an answer from Francois. Try writing to Philipp Stephani p.stepha...@googlemail.com, who is the current maintainer. Best, Dominik On 3 October 2011 09:56, Vafa Khalighi vafa...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote an email to François Charette http://ctan.org/author/id/charettesaying

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
there seem to be two git versions of polyglossia, i.e., it's been forked. Or am I wrong? Philipp's and Francois' On 1 October 2011 23:52, Alan Munn am...@gmx.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Alan Munn wrote: On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: If anyone knows

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Alan Munn
On Oct 2, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: there seem to be two git versions of polyglossia, i.e., it's been forked. Or am I wrong? Philipp's and Francois' Yes and no. The way github works is that when someone proposes a change, they fork it to their own account and then notify

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
All well and good, but useless if neither Philipp or Francois do anything, and the update never gets to CTAN. Humph. Dominik On 2 October 2011 18:21, Alan Munn am...@gmx.com wrote: On Oct 2, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: there seem to be two git versions of polyglossia, i.e.,

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Alan Munn
On Oct 2, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: All well and good, but useless if neither Philipp or Francois do anything, and the update never gets to CTAN. Humph. Well I don't think Philipp has commit privileges, and CTAN isn't happy about random (even highly trusted) people uploading

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Martin Schröder
2011/10/2 Alan Munn am...@gmx.com: Well I don't think Philipp has commit privileges, and CTAN isn't happy about random (even highly trusted) people uploading new versions of packages that are still officially maintained. Which seems to boil down to the original problem: polyglossia seems to

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/2 Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de: 2011/10/2 Alan Munn am...@gmx.com: Well I don't think Philipp has commit privileges, and CTAN isn't happy about random (even highly trusted) people uploading new versions of packages that are still officially maintained. Which seems to boil down

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
I'm very pleased to be able to say that Philipp Stephani has added the required \RequirePackage statement to polyglossia.dtx and sent an update to CTAN. It should come down the pike soon. Thanks Philipp! He notes, however, that this is just an emergency fix, and that a new maintainer for

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
Zdeněk, your offer to look after polyglossia from January 2012 is extremely welcome, and the best offer on the table at present. I'm sure nobody would mind in the least if you moved the code to subversion. I certainly wouldn't. Best, Dominik --

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-02 Thread Vafa Khalighi
I wrote an email to François Charette http://ctan.org/author/id/charettesaying that I am happy to maintain both arabxetex and polyglossia. On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Dominik Wujastyk wujas...@gmail.com wrote: I'm very pleased to be able to say that Philipp Stephani has added the required

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-01 Thread Dominik Wujastyk
On 21 September 2011 17:52, Heiko Oberdiek heiko.oberd...@googlemail.comwrote: It is a bug in polyglossia that xkeyval has to be loaded manually before polyglossia, because polyglossia has forgotten \RequirePackage{xkeyval}. Okay, now that everything has been discussed, is someone actually

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-01 Thread Herbert Schulz
On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:25 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: On 21 September 2011 17:52, Heiko Oberdiek heiko.oberd...@googlemail.comwrote: It is a bug in polyglossia that xkeyval has to be loaded manually before polyglossia, because polyglossia has forgotten \RequirePackage{xkeyval}.

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-01 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/1 Herbert Schulz he...@wideopenwest.com: On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:25 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: On 21 September 2011 17:52, Heiko Oberdiek heiko.oberd...@googlemail.comwrote: It is a bug in polyglossia that xkeyval has to be loaded manually before polyglossia, because polyglossia

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-01 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/1 Dominik Wujastyk wujas...@gmail.com: On 21 September 2011 17:52, Heiko Oberdiek heiko.oberd...@googlemail.com wrote: It is a bug in polyglossia that xkeyval has to be loaded manually before polyglossia, because polyglossia has forgotten \RequirePackage{xkeyval}. Okay, now that

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-01 Thread VAFA KHALIGHI
I do not know where and when but I think François Charettehttp://ctan.org/author/id/charettemade *Philipp Stephani*, the maintainer of polyglossia. Also see https://github.com/phst It also seems that eg9 also has commit access to polyglossia on github. see https://github.com/eg9

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-01 Thread Alan Munn
On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: I know this isn't the Right Procedure, but I've knocked up a polyglossia.dtx with the \RequirePackage{xkeyval} statement in it, and with updated date and version (1.2.0b). Running xelatex polyglossia.ins generates all the

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-10-01 Thread Alan Munn
On Oct 1, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Alan Munn wrote: On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: If anyone knows how to work git (I use it so rarely that I always have to start from scratch) then feel free to add this to the git hub. If anyone wishes to package this for CTAN, please do

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread VAFA KHALIGHI
load xkeyval before polyglossia. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Arash Zeini arash.ze...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I updated my vanilla TexLive 2011 installation two days ago and have since been unable to compile my document correctly. Nothing has changed in my document but I now receive 181

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/9/21 Arash Zeini arash.ze...@gmail.com: Hello, See the previous thread open by Alex Hamann I updated my vanilla TexLive 2011 installation two days ago and have since been unable to compile my document correctly. Nothing has changed in my document but I now receive 181 error messages,

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Arash Zeini
On Wednesday 21 September 2011, Zdenek Wagner wrote: 2011/9/21 Arash Zeini arash.ze...@gmail.com: Hello, See the previous thread open by Alex Hamann Thanks for your prompt response. I am unable to locate a recent and relevant thread started by Alex Hamann. Vafa's suggestion of loading

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread VAFA KHALIGHI
I do not know about your other error messages but I guess they all should be related to fontspec. A similar questions was asked on the TeXLive mailing list and Wagner perhaps thought that your question was on the TeXLive mailng list; that is why... fontspec does not load xkeyval anymore (but used

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Heiko Oberdiek
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 02:04:51PM +0200, Pander wrote: On 2011-09-21 13:58, Arash Zeini wrote: On Wednesday 21 September 2011, Zdenek Wagner wrote: 2011/9/21 Arash Zeini arash.ze...@gmail.com: Hello, See the previous thread open by Alex Hamann Thanks for your prompt response. I

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread VAFA KHALIGHI
It is a bug in polyglossia that xkeyval has to be loaded manually before polyglossia, because polyglossia has forgotten \RequirePackage{xkeyval}. Not really. fontspec used to load xkeyval and polyglossia loaded fontspec so there was no need for polyglossia to load xkeyval again.

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Herbert Schulz
On Sep 21, 2011, at 7:21 AM, VAFA KHALIGHI wrote: It is a bug in polyglossia that xkeyval has to be loaded manually before polyglossia, because polyglossia has forgotten \RequirePackage{xkeyval}. Not really. fontspec used to load xkeyval and polyglossia loaded fontspec so there was no

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/9/21 Herbert Schulz he...@wideopenwest.com: On Sep 21, 2011, at 7:21 AM, VAFA KHALIGHI wrote: It is a bug in polyglossia that xkeyval has to be loaded manually before polyglossia, because polyglossia has forgotten \RequirePackage{xkeyval}. Not really. fontspec used to load xkeyval

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Heiko Oberdiek
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 02:34:41PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote: That's right. \RequirePackage and \usepackage maintain internally a list of already loaded packages. There is one potential problem, you are not specified a different list of options. Thus if you use \RequirePackage{something}

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Heiko Oberdiek
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:21:46PM +1000, VAFA KHALIGHI wrote: It is a bug in polyglossia that xkeyval has to be loaded manually before polyglossia, because polyglossia has forgotten \RequirePackage{xkeyval}. Not really. fontspec used to load xkeyval and polyglossia loaded fontspec

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/9/21 Heiko Oberdiek heiko.oberd...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 02:34:41PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote: That's right. \RequirePackage and \usepackage maintain internally a list of already loaded packages. There is one potential problem, you are not specified a different list of

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Heiko Oberdiek
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 03:19:29PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote: Agreed. What I meant was if package anything contains \RequirePackage{something} without any options but user needs something with some option, then the correct way is \usepackage[options]{something} \usepackage{anything} I

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Arash Zeini
Thanks for all the posts. Vafa's mail below answers my question about recent changes. Loading xkeyval before polyglossia takes care of the problem in the minimal example, but not in my actual document where I also load exaccent. In this case I receive complaints about \upperaccent and other

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread VAFA KHALIGHI
fontspec loads xunicode and xunicode has been updated recently. What happens if you load exaccent before polyglossia? On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Arash Zeini arash.ze...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the posts. Vafa's mail below answers my question about recent changes. Loading

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Arash Zeini
On Wednesday 21 September 2011, VAFA KHALIGHI wrote: fontspec loads xunicode and xunicode has been updated recently. What happens if you load exaccent before polyglossia? Nothing. I get the same error messages as before. Arash On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Arash Zeini

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/9/21 Arash Zeini arash.ze...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 21 September 2011, VAFA KHALIGHI wrote: fontspec loads xunicode and xunicode has been updated recently. What happens if you load exaccent before polyglossia? Nothing. I get the same error messages as before. What packages are loaded

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:23:50 +0100 schrieb Arash Zeini: fontspec loads xunicode and xunicode has been updated recently. What happens if you load exaccent before polyglossia? Nothing. I get the same error messages as before. Well loading exaccent before fontspec/xunicode should actually work

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread VAFA KHALIGHI
For me, the attached example gives no error. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Arash Zeini arash.ze...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 21 September 2011, VAFA KHALIGHI wrote: fontspec loads xunicode and xunicode has been updated recently. What happens if you load exaccent before polyglossia?

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread VAFA KHALIGHI
I do not agree but I usually do not load any packages for various reasons. If I need a particular function of a particular package, I implement it myself, and even if that is not possible, I take macros from that package but obviously change the macro names (both internal and public macros)

Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia broken?

2011-09-21 Thread Arash Zeini
On Wednesday 21 September 2011, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Am Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:23:50 +0100 schrieb Arash Zeini: fontspec loads xunicode and xunicode has been updated recently. What happens if you load exaccent before polyglossia? Nothing. I get the same error messages as before. Well