Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-05 Thread Zdenek Wagner
út 5. 3. 2019 v 16:44 odesílatel Julian Bradfield napsal: > > On 2019-03-05, Zdenek Wagner wrote: > >> > And the last thing, setting of DMARC at tug.org is wrong, the DNS > >> > query returns the SPF record, not the DMARC record. > >> > >> No, it isn't wrong - there is no setting for DMARC. > >>

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-05 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2019-03-05, Zdenek Wagner wrote: >> > And the last thing, setting of DMARC at tug.org is wrong, the DNS >> > query returns the SPF record, not the DMARC record. >> >> No, it isn't wrong - there is no setting for DMARC. >> A dns query for _dmarc.tug.org TXT records returns two records: >> >>

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-05 Thread Zdenek Wagner
út 5. 3. 2019 v 15:21 odesílatel Julian Bradfield napsal: > > On 2019-03-05, Zdenek Wagner wrote: > > [ Please don't top-post. ] > >... > > > And the last thing, setting of DMARC at tug.org is wrong, the DNS > > query returns the SPF record, not the DMARC record. > > No, it isn't wrong - there

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-05 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2019-03-05, Zdenek Wagner wrote: [ Please don't top-post. ] > Now assume that someb...@nodkim.org sned a mail to the list. > @nodkim.org has neither DKIM nor DMARC. The mail is distributed to the > subscribers. SPF passes, @nodkim.org does not provide DKIM and there > are no headers. There

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-04 Thread Janusz S. Bień
On Sun, Mar 03 2019 at 16:05 -07, Karl Berry wrote: > Hi - I've removed the "[XeTeX]" prefix on Subject lines from this > mailing list (xetex)'s messages. It is my hope that this will reduce > the ever-increasing flood of dmarc failures > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC). Perhaps the

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-04 Thread mskala
On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, Zdenek Wagner wrote: > problem. Gmail accepts majority of such mails. Only if I display the > original message, I can see DKIM FAIL and DMARC FAIL. However, I had > problems with forwarded messages and important invoices were not It would certainly be better that the mailing

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-04 Thread Zdenek Wagner
Hi, your description is exact but I do not agree that there is not a huge problem. Gmail accepts majority of such mails. Only if I display the original message, I can see DKIM FAIL and DMARC FAIL. However, I had problems with forwarded messages and important invoices were not delivered and I was

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-04 Thread mskala
On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, Zdenek Wagner wrote: > DMARC can be set as one of the following ways: > * The mail is valid if at least one of SPF and DKIM passes > * If the mail is signed, it is valid if both SPF and DKIM pass > > Let's assume that we have the latter case and we try to "solve" it by >

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-04 Thread Zdenek Wagner
No, rewriting From without other changes does not help. First, looking into DNS, the SPF for tug.org is set as: $ dig TXT tug.org +short "v=spf1 a a:freefriends.org mx:freefriends.org a:fencepost.gnu.org include:_spf.google.com ~all" The sender for the TL list is here in the permitted servers.

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-04 Thread mskala
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019, Zdenek Wagner wrote: > I am afraid that the subject prefix is just one of several reasons. I > have just examined the recent reply by Norbert Preining. Gmail > reports: > SPF: PASS, DKIM: FAIL, DMARC: FAIL. If SPF passes, then DMARC ought to pass. DMARC is only supposed to

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-04 Thread Peter von Kaehne
The solution JISCMAIL uses is following: From: "VON KAEHNE, Peter (NHS )" < 0..0-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> Reply-To: Rural General Practitioners Association of Scotland < rg...@jiscmail.ac.uk> To: rg...@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Re: [RGPAS] The From header is

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-04 Thread Zdenek Wagner
Hi, I am afraid that the subject prefix is just one of several reasons. I have just examined the recent reply by Norbert Preining. Gmail reports: SPF: PASS, DKIM: FAIL, DMARC: FAIL. Further examination shows that the mail was sent from 91.121.174.77 which is listed in SPF as a permitted sender

Re: no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sun, 2019-03-03 at 16:05 -0700, Karl Berry wrote: > Hi - I've removed the "[XeTeX]" prefix on Subject lines from this > mailing list (xetex)'s messages. It is my hope that this will reduce > the ever-increasing flood of dmarc failures > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC). Isn't the problem

no more subject prefix for xetex mailing list

2019-03-03 Thread Karl Berry
Hi - I've removed the "[XeTeX]" prefix on Subject lines from this mailing list (xetex)'s messages. It is my hope that this will reduce the ever-increasing flood of dmarc failures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC). This was first noticed with Yahoo, long ago, which did not matter much, then