Re: [I18n] urdu keymap

2004-08-29 Thread Danilo Segan
Hi Zaeem, Today at 18:32, Zaeem Arshad wrote: i have developed an urdu keymap for XFree86 that enabled typing in urdu. We have been actively testing it for 4 months and using it for localizing GPL/OSS projects. Kindly tell me how can this keymap be submitted to the main X release so that

Re: [I18n] Re: Emulation of Alt+Numpad+Digits behavior

2004-08-05 Thread Danilo Segan
Yesterday at 19:35, Jrg Henne wrote: Markus Kuhn wrote: If you do something in this area, please implement the ISO 14755 hex input method, and not the old MS-Windows one. (Or implement both together, if you really need MS-Windows compatibility here. They don't interfere with each other,

Re: [I18n] Re: Emulation of Alt+Numpad+Digits behavior

2004-08-05 Thread Danilo Segan
Yesterday at 19:35, Jrg Henne wrote: Markus Kuhn wrote: If you do something in this area, please implement the ISO 14755 hex input method, and not the old MS-Windows one. (Or implement both together, if you really need MS-Windows compatibility here. They don't interfere with each other,

Re: [I18n] Switching directly through multiple keyboards

2004-05-17 Thread Danilo Segan
Hi Ivan, On Saturday at 13:07, Ivan Pascal wrote: To express it more factually, is there a way to assign, let's say SHIFT+SHIFT to a greek polytonic kbd, SHIFT+ALT to sanscrit, SHIFT+META to phonetics, etc. Look inside keysymdef.h for possible symbol names which might produce desired

Re: [I18n] Switching directly through multiple keyboards

2004-05-14 Thread Danilo Segan
Yesterday at 22:09, Vincent wrote: Hello ! A friend of mine, quite involved in ancient greek, sanscrit and phonetic alphabet has defined multiple xkb keyboards file. He wanted to know if there is a way to shift directly to a particular definition, rather than cycling through 3 or 4

Re: [I18n] Re: Alt + CHTN for arrow key movement, XKB?

2004-04-08 Thread Danilo Segan
Yesterday at 1:00, Ahmad Baitalmal wrote: - In Gnome (I'm running 2.6 on xfree-4.3.99.902-r2) hitting the c key by itself is somehow interpreted as ALT+C. So when I'm filling a text box in a dialog box, when I hit c the dialog box calls up the Cancel button since it has C underlined. The same

Re: [I18n] Re: Alt + CHTN for arrow key movement, XKB?

2004-04-08 Thread Danilo Segan
Hi Ahmad, Yesterday at 22:09, Ahmad Baitalmal wrote: SO the solution for me was to patch gtkkeyhash.c and force it to set the correct consumed_modifiers when the keys I care about are pressed. Here is the patch file: http://ahmad.baitalmal.com/xkb/ gtk_altnav_consumed_modifiers_fix.patch

Re: [I18n] Unicode keysym questions

2004-03-05 Thread Danilo Segan
Alexander Krauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] : I also noticed that the Compose-Files of 4.3.0 in UTF-8 locales use the U keysyms even for characters that have old keysyms (all the accented latin-{12...} chars). Is this an intended policy change or did it just happen because they were automatically

Re: [I18n] KeySyms 5 to 8, multiple character sequences

2003-11-18 Thread Danilo Segan
Hi Jacek, Jacek M. Holeczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Basically, I cannot see how can you have a portable one-definition-fits-all keymap if such things change (keycodes and layout of the keyboard). Have a look at this mail : http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01608.html Ivan

Re: [I18n] Compose and Gtk2/Mozilla

2003-09-30 Thread Danilo Segan
, 30. 2003. 17:58:33 CEST Owen Taylor : As far as I know, you shouldn't lose that. That's done completely separate from input method handling. Uhm, I must have been mistaken. I remember having problems with it a week or so ago (with Gtk+ 2.2.4), but I cannot replicate it now. It must have

Re: [I18n] why does Mode_switch not work sometimes?

2003-08-27 Thread Danilo Segan
2003.08.27 09:28 Frank Murphy : However, on this one machine Mode_switch doesn't have any effect, no matter what key i assign it to. Another thing you could try would be to set up an Esperanto XKB keymap based on whichever national keymap you're using, though the ideas behind Mode_switch

Re: [I18n] XKB symbols normalization proposal

2003-08-16 Thread Danilo Segan
Okay, I'll mention some technical (and political) points that you missed. Frank Murphy wrote: ... National: ... sr (Serbia) sr is a country code for Suriname, so this one is linguistic, and should be renamed to scc (a long unchanged code originating from Serbo-Croatian in Cyrillic). There

Re: [I18n] Re: Some thoughts on XKB symbols

2003-08-14 Thread Danilo Segan
, 14. 2003. 04:32:57 CEST Frank Murphy : Sorry, I meant shift levels. my proposed us-ascii would have just key AE01 { [ 1,exclam ] }; not key AE01 { [ 1, exclam, onesuperior, exclamdown ] }; I'd go for: key AE01 { [ 1, exclam,

Re: [I18n] Re: Some thoughts on XKB symbols

2003-08-14 Thread Danilo Segan
, 14. 2003. 13:12:05 Dr Andrew C Aitchison : On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Danilo Segan wrote: For the sake of difference, I would recommend the following: - National keymaps should use ISO 3166 code in all UPPERCASE (eg. US) - Linguistic keymaps should use ISO 639 code in all lowercase (eg. en

Re: [I18n] Re: Some thoughts on XKB symbols

2003-08-14 Thread Danilo Segan
, 13. 2003. 18:58:40 CEST Frank Murphy : The only xkb_symbols us that I see are in digital/us and xfree68/ataritt. But the map would be the same as the xkb_symbols basic in pc/us, basically, the same as latin(basic) only not including the group 2 or 3 symbols (exclamdown, etc.). However, it

Re: [I18n] Re: Some thoughts on XKB symbols

2003-08-14 Thread Danilo Segan
, 14. 2003. 17:35:10 CEST Frank Murphy : I'd go for: key AE01 { [ 1, exclam, any, any ] }; (I'm not sure if your idea would work like this -- if it would, then this is unneccessary burden). It's already done with only two levels in the pc/us keymap. I don't see a reason to

Re: [I18n] Bug #122: US Intl keyboard mapping missing c with cedilla.

2003-07-17 Thread Danilo Segan
, 17. 2003. 15:18:18 CEST Hans Deragon : There is no AltGr key on a standard US keyboard. And on usual US intl keyboards, at least those I used on MS windows or when no locale was set under Linux, apostrophe c generates c with cedilla. So now what? I strongly believe that the standard is

Re: [I18n] Bug #122: US Intl keyboard mapping missing c with cedilla.

2003-07-17 Thread Danilo Segan
Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: So, in order to get c-cedilla, you'd do the following: Right-Alt or AltGr + =, followed by c. Why is AltGr + , not used for dead_cedilla ? It seems more intuitive? I don't know. It's all in the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/latin. The basic variant has this definition

Re: [I18n] XKB: ISO_Level3_Shift in group2

2003-06-24 Thread Danilo Segan
Behnam Esfahbod wrote: But when I use a key, in group 2, with RALT, a ? will print. Try setting the correct locale for the corresponding application (LC_*, LANG,...), and see if that helps. Eg. export LANG=sr_YU.UTF-8 export LC_ALL=sr_YU.UTF-8 # bash syntax for Serbian language or use the

Re: [I18n] Sixlevels and strange state changes with Control

2003-03-22 Thread Danilo Segan
Regards, Ivan Pascal wrote: Did you make your mind on the _XKB_{ALT|CONTROL}_FALLBACK_TO issue? Yes. Since there are not more opinions I can write a summary. We have three suggestions: my one with environment variables, Vasilis's offer with a trying all groups in turn and your one. Of

Re: [I18n] XKB: direct switch from group1 to group3

2003-03-22 Thread Danilo Segan
Regards, Torsten Foertsch wrote: I'd like to directly switch from group 1 to group 3, i.e like hitting iso-next-group twice. Is that possible? Not that I tried, but did you try setting action = LockGroup(group+=2) for some key (in the compatibility section, for instance, in the

Re: [I18n] XKB: Control shortcuts (CTRL+X) with Serbian cyrillicand more

2003-03-17 Thread Danilo Segan
Ivan Pascal wrote: Danilo Segan wrote: It all works fine, but the problem arises with the usage of CTRL+key combinations. If I put en_US as the first group, then they use keys from group1 no matter what group is active. But, in any other case, they use the key mappings from the current

[I18n] Sixlevels and strange state changes with Control

2003-03-17 Thread Danilo Segan
For the time being, at least some of Ctrl/Alt dance can be achieved using higher levels, so here are my problems. In the currently designed sixlevel type (one at http://www.kvota.net/srpski/1.5/sixlevel), where LCTL is modifier_map-ed to Mod4, it works as expected (it does select level five)

Re: [I18n] XKB: Control shortcuts (CTRL+X) with Serbian cyrillicand more

2003-03-17 Thread Danilo Segan
Danilo Segan wrote: ... At least, if you opt for your suggestion of *_FALLBACK_TO, it would be nice to be able to set this through keymaps, by using -option parameter to setxkbmap (or in XF86Config): setxkbmap -layout sr,yu,en_US -option grp:shift_toggle,alt-fb:1,ctl-fb:3 Now that I think

[I18n] XKB: Control shortcuts (CTRL+X) with Serbian cyrillic and more

2003-03-16 Thread Danilo Segan
While developing a bit more advanced (and correct) keyboard for Serbian, I came across several problems. I use the multi-layout features of XFree86 4.3.0. The task: Standard alphabet for Serbian is cyrillic, but latin transcription is used as (if not more) widely as cyrillic script. So, I