Re: [forum] Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On 10 Jul 2003, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: I need to pick an extension for the bitmap-only SFNT fonts[1]. While these fonts use the same file format as TrueType and OpenType fonts, they do not fullfill the requirements of any of the four (!) TrueType specifications. Apple calls them

Re: GetImage with 8 bit pseudocolor on a 24/32 bit display

2003-07-10 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:51:59 -0400 From: Matthew Tippett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GetImage with 8 bit pseudocolor on a 24/32 bit display Hello, Trying to work through some problems that I am seeing with X. I have got a TrueColor

Re: [forum] Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-10 Thread Alex Deucher
I prefer .sfnt as well. we shouldn't feel limited by DOS. Just my 2 cents... Alex --- Andrew C Aitchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10 Jul 2003, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: I need to pick an extension for the bitmap-only SFNT fonts[1]. While these fonts use the same file format as

Re: [forum] Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-10 Thread Alex Deucher
Plus most users will be on some un*x anyway. Also users generally don't have a problem with .html vs .htm and .jpeg vs .jpg, at least in my experience. Alex --- Peter \Firefly\ Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Alex Deucher wrote: I prefer .sfnt as well. we shouldn't feel

Re: Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-10 Thread Keith Packard
Around 1 o'clock on Jul 10, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: I suggest they should have the extension ``.sfnt'', with ``.sfn'' being recognised for compatibility with 8+3 systems. While using four letter extensions would be nice, I'm afraid there remain file system formats which provide for only

PLE133 driver source

2003-07-10 Thread Alex Deucher
I just saw this on VIA's website. It looks like they just took Alan's code and added some tv features (or perhaps just re-released his code?). I don't know if there are already in CVS or not, but for what it's worth here's the link: http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=296

Re: Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-10 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 01:22:49AM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: I need to pick an extension for the bitmap-only SFNT fonts[1]. While these fonts use the same file format as TrueType and OpenType fonts, they do not fullfill the requirements of any of the four (!) TrueType specifications.

Bugzilla and XFree86 version

2003-07-10 Thread Mike A. Harris
A number of bug reports have gotten filed against XFree86 4.3 which are actually CVS head bugs. I think it makes sense to add CVS as a version also, so people can choose that too. Might want to add CVS 4.3.99.n versions too, but that might be overkill. I can report this in bugzilla against

Re: [Dri-devel] PLE133 driver source

2003-07-10 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 08:40:27AM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote: I just saw this on VIA's website. It looks like they just took Alan's code and added some tv features (or perhaps just re-released his code?). I don't know if there are already in CVS or not, but for what it's worth here's the

[Fonts] Re: [forum] Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-10 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On 10 Jul 2003, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: I need to pick an extension for the bitmap-only SFNT fonts[1]. While these fonts use the same file format as TrueType and OpenType fonts, they do not fullfill the requirements of any of the four (!) TrueType specifications. Apple calls them

[Fonts] Re: Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-10 Thread Keith Packard
Around 1 o'clock on Jul 10, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: I suggest they should have the extension ``.sfnt'', with ``.sfn'' being recognised for compatibility with 8+3 systems. While using four letter extensions would be nice, I'm afraid there remain file system formats which provide for only

[Fonts] Re: Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-10 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 01:22:49AM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: I need to pick an extension for the bitmap-only SFNT fonts[1]. While these fonts use the same file format as TrueType and OpenType fonts, they do not fullfill the requirements of any of the four (!) TrueType specifications.

Re: [Fonts] Re: two different gb18030.2000-1 : Sun/Mozilla/Java vsRH

2003-07-10 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Jungshik Shin wrote: Hat 7.3, at that time we have to use Mozilla with X core font. Since then the patch has been there almost unchanged. GB18030.2000* aliases were added purely because we want Mozilla working (you made gb18030.2000-0 an alias to gbk-0, but you also made

[I18n] xrus doesn't write cyrillic

2003-07-10 Thread Ripalda-Marin, Miguel-Angel
Hello, Nowadays I'm totally blocked after two weeks dealing with my keyboard, and after browsing google.com looking for one solution to my problem. I have XFree86 4.0.2 on an LinuxFromScratch-based distro (kernel 2.4.18)... this machine have attached a customized keyboard (own-made antivandalic

[XFree86] X server crashes

2003-07-10 Thread partha_dhara
Sir/Madam, I was using Redhat linux 7.1 and the X server was running smoothly. Recently I have upgraded it to RedHat 7.3, now X server is not running. I am using S3 incorporate Trio video chipset with 4 MB vram. Xconfigurator is also not running , showing segmentation fault. I am sending my

[XFree86] Problem on Linux regarding startx

2003-07-10 Thread mahesh matha
Dear Sir/Madam, I have a peculiar problem while using startx. My computer's microprocessor is Pentium 4. The Linux installed on it is Red hat version 8. Now the problem is as follows: When I type startx at the command prompt, I get an error : fatal server error caught signal 8 server aborting.

RE: [XFree86] X problem

2003-07-10 Thread John_Tai
Dear Egbert, Thank you for your reply. I did just as you said, and now I am able to run X. However, there are still some problems. In the desktop icons I cannot see the filenames. Also in the file manager, all filenames are empty. I thought it was something to do with the fonts, so I also

[XFree86] X-server configuration - regd.

2003-07-10 Thread Ravindran C
I havethe following: Samsung Samtron 40Bn monitor S3 Tro V2/DX card 86C775 RAMDAC Chip 1MB video RAM I have installed REDHAT 7.1 when I run Xconfigurator, it hangs. When I try configuring using XFree86, I get an error stating that configuring is impossible using the current version of

[XFree86] XFree86.0.log

2003-07-10 Thread sanju kumar
Sir, I m using linux7.1 on sis650 chipset. I m not able to configure my graphics. Plz help me to run Xwindows system on my linux7.1 with sis650_740 graphics card. I m sending the XFree86.0.log. Waiting for ur helpful reply. Thanx and regards... Sanju Kumar

[XFree86] read directly from the video card framebuffer

2003-07-10 Thread james amen atayi
Is it possible to directly read the video card output and save it into a file as a screen shot? I have to capture for a long time the display. Doing it making screen shots is not a good solution. That why I'm trying to find out how to capture the video card output. in other way how can I

[XFree86] read directly from the video card framebuffer

2003-07-10 Thread james amen atayi
Hallo! Is it possible to directly read the video card output and save it into a file as a screen shot? I have to capture for a long time the display. Doing it making screen shots is not a good solution. That why I'm trying to find out how to capture the video card output. In other way, how

[XFree86] problem running x on mac

2003-07-10 Thread M L Oh
x managed to startup for a few seconds before quitting I needs help to solve this problem. thanks in advance. mac running os x ver 10.1.5. below is the log: XDarwin 1.2.0 XFree86 Version 4.3.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 27

[XFree86] XTerm OpenSSH question w/ freezing.

2003-07-10 Thread war
Sometimes when I use openssh (latest) and do find . or ls -lR /dev or similiar, my xterm 'freezes up', there is no way to fix it but to kill the xterm usually. This NEVER occurs in telnet. The error is completely reproducable when you come across it. ie: one may just be browsing the filesystem

[XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Heydon
I am working on a DVD/MP3 playing machine that will be controlled entirely by keyboard/remote controll. I am running XF86 4.3.0 and I want to hide the cursor. Is there anyway to make it invisible or move it to the bottom right corner of the screen or something similar? I have tried setting the

Re: [XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0

2003-07-10 Thread Måns Rullgård
Michael Heydon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am working on a DVD/MP3 playing machine that will be controlled entirely by keyboard/remote controll. I am running XF86 4.3.0 and I want to hide the cursor. Is there anyway to make it invisible or move it to the bottom right corner of the screen or

[XFree86] Strange problem with mouse cursor

2003-07-10 Thread Luca Micheletti
Hi all, i'm using Linux Debian sarge distro. I use sarge since last October without problems. The last days i have installed a package (artwiz-cursor) for a better look of my mouse pointer. Initially no problems...after one day my mouse cursor become a square. Then i have removed this package

Re: [XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Heydon
That still has the problem that it only stays as that image while over the root window (iirc). is there any way to force the cursor to stay the same when it is over other windows? On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 02:47:53PM +0200, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Michael Heydon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am

Re: [XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0

2003-07-10 Thread Dennis Herbrich
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 02:47:53PM +0200, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Michael Heydon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Create a transparent bitmap and set the cursor to that. Usual disclaimer: Only works for root window. Check the archives, it's been discussed three times already in the last few days.

[XFree86] Re: XTerm OpenSSH question w/ freezing.

2003-07-10 Thread Darren Tucker
war wrote: Sometimes when I use openssh (latest) and do find . or ls -lR /dev or similiar, my xterm 'freezes up', there is no way to fix it but to kill the xterm usually. Let me guess, you have firewalling/packet filter/NAT and the client and server are on different subnets? It's most likely

[XFree86] Re: XTerm OpenSSH question w/ freezing.

2003-07-10 Thread war
Let me guess, you have firewalling/packet filter/NAT and the client and server are on different subnets? It's most likely an MTU problem, see [1]. Usually yes, but this also occurs on a 100mbps switched lan with no packet filtering in place. On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Darren Tucker wrote: war

Re: [XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0

2003-07-10 Thread Peter \Firefly\ Lund
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Michael Heydon wrote: That still has the problem that it only stays as that image while over the root window (iirc). is there any way to force the cursor to stay the same when it is over other windows? Have a program walk the tree of windows regularly and force the

Re: [XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0

2003-07-10 Thread Måns Rullgård
Dennis Herbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Create a transparent bitmap and set the cursor to that. Usual disclaimer: Only works for root window. Check the archives, it's been discussed three times already in the last few days. More precisely, it applies to the window for which you set the

[XFree86] read directly from the video card framebuffer output

2003-07-10 Thread james amen atayi
Hallo! Is it possible to directly read the video card output and save it into a file as a screen shot? I have to capture for a long time the display. Doing it making screen shots is not a good solution. That why I'm trying to find out how to capture the video card output. in other way how

Re: [XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0 [Solved]

2003-07-10 Thread Michael Heydon
I suppose I should have looked their first :) So much for my assumption that google has indexed the entire universe. I ended up modifying a bit of code to do an XWarpPointer to send the mouse to the bottom left corner of the screen. thanks Michael On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 03:10:22PM +0200,

RE: [XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0

2003-07-10 Thread Oli Comber
What about having a very small, 'always on top', background-colour, transparent cursor window in the corner, and (periodically?) set the mouse coords to it..? -Oli = Original Message From Peter \Firefly\ Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Michael Heydon wrote: That still

[XFree86] Re: XTerm OpenSSH question w/ freezing.

2003-07-10 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, war wrote: Sometimes when I use openssh (latest) and do find . or ls -lR /dev or similiar, my xterm 'freezes up', there is no way to fix it but to kill the xterm usually. what version of xterm? The only issue that comes to mind is the fix for blinking cursor a few months

[XFree86] Re: XTerm OpenSSH question w/ freezing.

2003-07-10 Thread war
Any version, currently using the latest stable, xterm-179. On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, war wrote: Sometimes when I use openssh (latest) and do find . or ls -lR /dev or similiar, my xterm 'freezes up', there is no way to fix it but to kill the xterm

[XFree86] Re: XTerm OpenSSH question w/ freezing.

2003-07-10 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, war wrote: Any version, currently using the latest stable, xterm-179. There was a Debian bug report last week in this area, but it turned out to be a bug in bash (I don't know more than that). On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, war

[XFree86] Re: XTerm OpenSSH question w/ freezing.

2003-07-10 Thread war
Ok, next time I can reproduce this problem I will try csh/ksh other shells and see, thanks for the insight. On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, war wrote: Any version, currently using the latest stable, xterm-179. There was a Debian bug report last week in

[XFree86] Problem with ATI Radeon 9000 and Proview LCD 15-inch 568/BMM568 monitor

2003-07-10 Thread Emilie et Sébastien WOLNIEWICZ
Hello, I have a problem with XFree86 X server : a.. Version of XFree86 : XFree86 Version 4.3.0 b.. Operating System : Slackware 9.0 c.. Video hardware : ATI Radeon 9000 d.. Screen : Proview LCD 15-inch 568/BMM568 e.. Description of the problem : I can't start xserver. XF86Config

[XFree86] Re: XTerm OpenSSH question w/ freezing.

2003-07-10 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, war wrote: Ok, next time I can reproduce this problem I will try csh/ksh other shells and see, thanks for the insight. no problem (it may be the same problem, or one that I haven't read about). On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, war

[XFree86] help: xfree can't start in mac

2003-07-10 Thread M L Oh
expert users please kindly guide me on the following problem: xfree v. 4.3.0 installed in mac os x v. 10.1.5 starts for only a few seconds before quitting. the following is the log: XDarwin 1.2.0 XFree86 Version 4.3.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)

[XFree86] XFree86 and S3trio64V2 video card

2003-07-10 Thread Laerte Pereira
Mark, startx doesn't work. Can you help me with this? My PC: IBM Netfinity 5500 video card S3trio64V2 Linux Red Hat 8.0 Thank you. Laerte. ___ Yahoo! Mail Mais espaço, mais

[XFree86] IMPORTANT: your message to html-tidy

2003-07-10 Thread W3C List Manager
This is a response to a message apparently sent from your address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject: Re: Movie From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:32:55 --0400 Your message has NOT been distributed to the list; before we distribute it, we need your permission to

[XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-10 Thread gabe f
I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit, I don't have a screen, but i can type shutdown -r now, blindly, and it works. What is it? I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the problem on both an lcd and a crt monitor. I'm

Re: [XFree86] Would you like to boost your career? i

2003-07-10 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 10:25:59AM +0200, Egbert Eich wrote: David Dawes writes: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:30:51PM -0400, News/Info wrote: Yeah you do have to be a member but even the guidelines say that their No, you don't have to be a member. The member-only restriction was tried

[XFree86] Out of Office AutoReply: Application

2003-07-10 Thread Hannah Blackwell
Thank you for your message. Please note that as of July 3, 2003 I am no longer with Greenough Communications. If you need immediate assistance please contact Tracy Sullivan at 617.275.6518 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Hannah Blackwell ___

Re: [XFree86] libXrender calling unfound symbol

2003-07-10 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, gabe f wrote: where do I want to add it? -lXext on the link line. But I'm not sure that's your problem. I don't have a reference to _XextFindDisplay in my libXrender.so.1.2. There is, however, a XextFindDisplay. Maybe your libXrender.so.1.2 and libXext are

Re: [XFree86] Xinerama blacks out

2003-07-10 Thread Mark Vojkovich
If you can get either to work individually when both are in the machine, but they don't work simultaneously... assuming that not loading the GLX module doesn't make things better, it sounds like a bug in the S3 driver. I think I recall there being problems at one time about it not setting its

Re: [XFree86] Problem on Linux regarding startx

2003-07-10 Thread Mark Vojkovich
Does running XFree86 instead of startx give you a working server (without window manager of course, you'll need to use ctrlaltbackspace to quit). When it did fatal error, was that from the server or from the window manager? If it's from the server it should show up at the end of the

[XFree86] SBCIS Policy Department (KMM5089821V60456L0KM)

2003-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for writing to SBC Internet Services Policy Group. We apologize for the inconvenience you have experienced. This is an auto-generated response designed to let you know that we have received your report, which will be investigated personally by one of our Support Representatives

[XFree86] Re: XFree86 and S3trio64V2 video card

2003-07-10 Thread Mark Vojkovich
I don't know anything about the S3 driver. Perhaps someone else on this list knows. Perhaps you'd get better results using the vesa driver. Mark. On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, [iso-8859-1] Laerte Pereira wrote: Mark, startx doesn't work. Can you help me with

RE: [XFree86] Hide mouse pointer under XF86-4.3.0

2003-07-10 Thread Peter \Firefly\ Lund
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Oli Comber wrote: What about having a very small, 'always on top', background-colour, transparent cursor window in the corner, and (periodically?) set the mouse coords to it..? Even better, I think. -Peter Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; Give him a

Re: [XFree86] read directly from the video card framebuffer

2003-07-10 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:06:22AM +0200, james amen atayi wrote: Hallo! Is it possible to directly read the video card output and save it into a file as a screen shot? I have to capture for a long time the display. Doing it making screen shots is not a good solution. That why I'm trying

Re: [XFree86] read directly from the video card framebuffer

2003-07-10 Thread Peter \Firefly\ Lund
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Eric Christopherson wrote: how to capture the video card output. In other way, how can I record the screen as a movie file without making screen shots? thank for your help I'm not sure of anything specifically for making movies/animations out of them, but there are

[XFree86] Xft Documentation

2003-07-10 Thread David Gmez
Hi all ;), I looking documentation for the Xft 2.0 API. I've only a found a paper by Keith Packard, and i don't know if it covers all the details of the last version of Xft. Is there any more documentation I should know of? Thanks in advance, -- David Gómez The question of whether computers

RE: [XFree86] XWINDOWS Crashed

2003-07-10 Thread Mx21725
Hello Mark, Sorry to bother you but I made the test , change the lines as you told me , but I am still stuck !! :-( I just replaced the line and it still not happy ! Do you know why suddently this didn't work anymore ? I check on the Machine I re-install everything, and the font is

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread Andy Goth
On Tuesday, July 8, 2003 12:05 pm, Egbert Eich wrote: Daniel Stone writes: I also hope like hell Mailman isn't munging Reply-To, because that's just *wrong*. Hm, I don't know what you would call munging, it puts the list address into the Reply-To. Daniel is probably referring to:

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Andy Goth wrote: On Tuesday, July 8, 2003 12:05 pm, Egbert Eich wrote: Daniel Stone writes: I also hope like hell Mailman isn't munging Reply-To, because that's just *wrong*. Hm, I don't know what you would call munging, it puts the list address into the

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:31:16PM -0500, Andy Goth wrote: On Tuesday, July 8, 2003 12:05 pm, Egbert Eich wrote: Daniel Stone writes: I also hope like hell Mailman isn't munging Reply-To, because that's just *wrong*. Hm, I don't know what you would call munging, it puts the list address

Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-10 Thread Ken Thompson
On Thursday 10 July 2003 11:04 am, gabe f wrote: I saw this posted in the groups, but no response there. I start X 4.3.0 from startx, and works fine, but on exit, I don't have a screen, but i can type shutdown -r now, blindly, and it works. What is it? I have an ati radeon 7500, and have the

[XFree86] X configuration on IBM Thinkpad A22p

2003-07-10 Thread Johnny Jones
I'm trying to get linux (Suse 8.1) running on my A22p Thinkpad but so far I haven't had any success. I've read one instance where someone installed an older version and it worked fine, then upgraded and it kept the same settings. I tried doing this also. I used Suse 7.3 and it came up just

Re: [XFree86] no screen after exiting X from startx

2003-07-10 Thread gabe f
I disabled dbe, but I can still just barely read the text when back in terminal mode. Like the text color is black, or something. I experienced text color being changed to blue for a while, then I changed XF86Config, and this started happening - maybe the config changes just changed the text

[XFree86] Closing XDMCP without stopping processes?

2003-07-10 Thread Rene Bartsch
Hi, I'm running a terminal-server with XFree86 4.3.0, XDMCP and KDE 3.1. From SUN I know you can close the X-session without stopping processes/programs/window-manager running on the server (just pull off your smartcard from one terminal and put it into another one and keep on working. The

Re: [XFree86] libXrender calling unfound symbol

2003-07-10 Thread gabe f
Not sure what you mean. I don't have a reference to _XextFindDisplay in my libXrender.so.1.2, either. I think the stabs only contain symbols that it provides code for, not ones that are used by it's code. But, what file do I want to add the link to, I mean, what is the proper user config file to

[XFree86] xdm startup auth problem

2003-07-10 Thread Rich Winkel
Hi, I'm running 4.2.1 under freebsd 4.8. I can run just xf86cfg or startx with no problem, but running xdm I get: AUDIT: Thu Jul 10 20:31:47 2003: 2422 X: client 2 rejected from local host Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Invalid

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:10:58PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote: Hm, I don't know what you would call munging, it puts the list address into the Reply-To. Daniel is probably referring to: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html ... which expresses an opinion not that

Re: [XFree86] Would you like to boost your career? i

2003-07-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 10:25:59AM +0200, Egbert Eich wrote: The question is if this could not be automated. If we can agree on a solution we may be able to find somebody who'd volunteer to help setting this up for us. record condition=broken Yes, this can be done; this has been done; [EMAIL

Re: [XFree86] Closing XDMCP without stopping processes?

2003-07-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 03:03:59AM +0200, Rene Bartsch wrote: I'm running a terminal-server with XFree86 4.3.0, XDMCP and KDE 3.1. From SUN I know you can close the X-session without stopping processes/programs/window-manager running on the server (just pull off your smartcard from one

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread gabe f
harmful in that it adds traffic to the list? I learn things by hearing replies that people might have (inadvertantly) made direct to the author. If the reply-to field was not munged people would have to choose to make the threads readable by the list ( like a news group). If they didn't think

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 08:40:39PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:10:58PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote: Hm, I don't know what you would call munging, it puts the list address into the Reply-To. Daniel is probably referring to:

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 10:19:12PM -0400, David Dawes wrote: No, it's that widely held. Been on mailing lists since I had a bang path. It's harmful. Believe me. It's still an *opinion*. 11 years of dealing with XFree86 mailing lists have shown me that for everyone who agrees with it,

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread gabe f
So then, why do you subscribe to the list, you could just read the emails on the website, thereby saving all of that internet traffic, by only viewing the email body text that appealed to you by its subject, and you wouldn't have to deal with those harmful vacation auto-replies, either? the

[XFree86] Mailing list behaviour and etiquette, in general

2003-07-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 10:58:56PM -0400, gabe f wrote: So then, why do you subscribe to the list, you could just read the emails on the website, thereby saving all of that internet traffic, by only viewing the email body text that appealed to you by its subject, and you wouldn't have to

Re: [XFree86] Mailing list behaviour and etiquette, in general

2003-07-10 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:59:02PM -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: And between your attitude and David's, I must say, I can see why there was a fuss with Keith, and why people suggested that he fork the project. If y'all I've been making that suggestion too. Haven't seen anything come of it yet.

[XFree86] Re: Mailing list behaviour and etiquette, in general

2003-07-10 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: category. Munging the RT violates the Principle of Least Astonishment rather thoroughly, so even if it's a miswart, it's still worthy to be pointed out. Personally, not that it matters at all in any way, but I prefer lists that do Reply-to pointing

Re: [XFree86] Re: Mailing list behaviour and etiquette, in general

2003-07-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 01:33:10AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: The bare fact is, that reply-to munging flamewar threads have occured on mailing lists since the first days that reply-to munging started happening. I must have been on at least 200 if not 500 mailing lists which have had this

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread Andy Goth
On Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:12 pm, David Dawes wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:31:16PM -0500, Andy Goth wrote: On Tuesday, July 8, 2003 12:05 pm, Egbert Eich wrote: Daniel Stone writes: I also hope like hell Mailman isn't munging Reply-To, because that's just *wrong*. Hm, I

Re: [XFree86] Xpert, Any software just for 15$ - 40$

2003-07-10 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 12:42:05AM -0500, Andy Goth wrote: On Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:12 pm, David Dawes wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:31:16PM -0500, Andy Goth wrote: On Tuesday, July 8, 2003 12:05 pm, Egbert Eich wrote: Daniel Stone writes: I also hope like hell Mailman isn't