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2004-05-18 Thread Mikhail
PROTECTED] To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date : Sunday, 16 May, 2004 03:06 PM Sub : [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Shawn, First I'd like to say that I am a big supporter of this new initiative! And PLEASE to not listen to people who want you to push in Perl/Java/whatever... directions

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2004-05-18 Thread Rob Arends
S T O P !! Please S T O P the WARS Thank You. Rob :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikhail Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2004 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? I think users

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2004-05-17 Thread Xmail
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? On Mon, 17 May 2004, Michal Altair Valasek wrote: [...] Guys, when you go at those MS workshops, you DO NOT have to drink that coffee! Now more

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2004-05-17 Thread Rob Arends
Yes please -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Xmail Sent: Monday, 17 May 2004 7:07 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Shawn, Would it be possible to abstract the db layer? Many of us

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2004-05-17 Thread Shawn Anderson
: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Shawn, Would it be possible to abstract the db layer? Many of us already run many different DB's and would prefer not to have to add another. -Original Message- From: Shawn Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 11

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2004-05-17 Thread Michal Altair Valasek
Hi, |Would it be possible to abstract the db layer? Many of us |already run many |different DB's and would prefer not to have to add another. Agree! I already have a big, strong, tuned and backed up SQL server I would like to use if possible. -- Altair - To unsubscribe from this list: send

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2004-05-17 Thread Michal Altair Valasek
Hi, |Do you think the whole world uses Windows? Are you unwilling to learn |anything else? I'm not talking about becoming a UNIX expert, just |widen you view to accept the fact that not all software is created |by MicroSoft and it's minions. You're blaming me for forcing software developers for

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2004-05-17 Thread Mark Mealman
: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? On Sunday 16 May 2004 07:00 am, Michal Altair Valasek wrote: |And finally, for the $64000 question: Can you explain me WTF=20 |difference does it make for a report tool, that reads text files and=20 |spits HTML (and that it is absolutely

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2004-05-16 Thread Orion Productions
Shawn, First I'd like to say that I am a big supporter of this new initiative! And PLEASE to not listen to people who want you to push in Perl/Java/whatever... directions. .NET is definitely the way to go!! Do you know that it has even come so far that our customers and partners REQUEST for

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2004-05-16 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 16 May 2004, Orion Productions wrote: Shawn, First I'd like to say that I am a big supporter of this new initiative! And PLEASE to not listen to people who want you to push in Perl/Java/whatever... directions. .NET is definitely the way to go!! Do you know that it has even come

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2004-05-16 Thread Michal Altair Valasek
|And finally, for the $64000 question: Can you explain me WTF |difference |does it make for a report tool, that reads text files and spits HTML |(and that it is absolutely not performance critical), the |language that it is written in? It's not important what language uses the given

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2004-05-16 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 16 May 2004, Michal Altair Valasek wrote: |And finally, for the $64000 question: Can you explain me WTF |difference |does it make for a report tool, that reads text files and spits HTML |(and that it is absolutely not performance critical), the |language that it is written in?

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2004-05-16 Thread Michal Altair Valasek
hi, Them main problem with these things is that they does not really interact with the operating system they're using. They tend to create world on their own and do not honour things common in host operating system. Using Windows logic, program files should be somewhere, per-user settings and

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2004-05-16 Thread Beau E. Cox
On Sunday 16 May 2004 07:00 am, Michal Altair Valasek wrote: |And finally, for the $64000 question: Can you explain me WTF |difference |does it make for a report tool, that reads text files and spits HTML |(and that it is absolutely not performance critical), the |language that it is written

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2004-05-16 Thread Orion Productions
for XMail, Webmail and Server/AD/Domain/IIS setup. Frédéric - Original Message - From: Michal Altair Valasek To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? |And finally, for the $64000 question: Can you

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2004-05-16 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Michal Altair Valasek wrote: [...] Guys, when you go at those MS workshops, you DO NOT have to drink that coffee! Now more than ever it is clear to me that it contains some sort of poison, that you might even like if you're going for a rave, but it definitely has a very

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2004-05-16 Thread Shawn Anderson
: Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? On Mon, 17 May 2004, Michal Altair Valasek wrote: [...] Guys, when you go at those MS workshops, you DO NOT have to drink that coffee! Now more than ever it is clear to me

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2004-05-16 Thread Wim Verveen
PROTECTED] Namens Beau E. Cox Verzonden: maandag 17 mei 2004 1:04 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? On Sunday 16 May 2004 07:00 am, Michal Altair Valasek wrote: |And finally, for the $64000 question: Can you explain me WTF=20 |difference does

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2004-04-30 Thread CLEMENT Francis
Just a couple of comments CLI/CRL/CLS/C#/... ARE STANDARDS LIKE JAVA, C, C++ ? GO TO 'ECMA' AND SEE Do you fill peoples at ECMA crazy to 'standardize' no stable concepts or languages ? And CLI/CRL/CLS/C# is really an open concept as it is platform/OS independant ... Can I simply remember

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2004-04-29 Thread Michal Altair Valasek
|Python and Java both work very well on both platforms. I don't have experience with Python. But I *have* experience with Java. Bad. Multi-platformness is very nice for academic games or marketing buzz, but not for real deployment. Please, write applications in way what is native for the

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2004-04-29 Thread Wim Verveen
-- anyone have a wish list? =20 |Python and Java both work very well on both platforms. =20 I don't have experience with Python. But I *have* experience=20 with Java. Bad. =20 Multi-platformness is very nice for academic games or=20 marketing buzz, but not for real deployment.=20 =20 Please, write

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2004-04-29 Thread Shawn Anderson
machines already have it. Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikhail Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Hi, Oh. C#... Let's see. If I want to use

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2004-04-29 Thread Mark Mealman
machines already have it. Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikhail Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Hi, Oh. C#... Let's see. If I

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2004-04-29 Thread Charles Frolick
:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Installing Mono on Gentoo Linux takes one command: emerge mono. They also have Fedora, Red Hat, Debian and SUSE packages on their site. So while no, Mono doesn't come standard on Linux boxes, I don't think

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2004-04-29 Thread William Denniss
On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:35, Shawn Anderson wrote: ...NET/Mono core library. Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a deal? Most windows machines already have it. most developer new machines at any rate. If you were to count all windows machines out there, I'd be very surprised to learn that

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2004-04-29 Thread Beau E. Cox
: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:35, Shawn Anderson wrote: ...NET/Mono core library. Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a deal? Most windows machines already have it. most

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2004-04-29 Thread Shawn Anderson
, 2004 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? On Thursday 29 April 2004 05:26 am, Shawn Anderson wrote: With how hard MS is pushing it out via there Update Services :) Who knows, but it sure makes development faster.. -Original Message

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2004-04-29 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Beau E. Cox wrote: So I guess this has become a Windows-only project. Well good luck. Have you any idea how many Unix/Linux servers are out there? I don't see your adversion to Perl which has everthing in place, via CPAN, to accomplish all your needs: portable, avaiable

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2004-04-29 Thread Mark Mealman
Some people just don't like working with Perl and I don't blame them, it's an arcane language if you're coming from a C/C++ background. I used to work a lot with Perl but moved onto Python because it's much easier to work with, though even it has its own unique syntax. I hate MS as much as the

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2004-04-29 Thread Dario Jakopec
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Some people just don't like working with Perl and I don't blame them, it's an arcane language if you're coming from a C/C++ background. I used to work a lot with Perl but moved onto Python

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2004-04-29 Thread Dario Jakopec
.. just realized, wrong link. http://www.henry.it/xmail/myxstats.htm Ciao Dario - Original Message - From: Dario Jakopec [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:37 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? I agree it's

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2004-04-28 Thread Jørn Aakre
Hi, What platform/language will the system be created for? What format will the reports be in (html) ? Will it be open source? Regards, Jørn - Original Message - From: Shawn Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [xmail]

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2004-04-28 Thread Fred
Hi, Glad someone is thinking for writing a decent log analyzer! Here is what I think should be in your project. -Storing the data in a MySQL database? -Will you release your software under the GPL? -Written in PHP or Perl? No ASP please hehe -User and domain alias support? Will all these

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2004-04-28 Thread Shawn Anderson
this). Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of J=F8rn Aakre Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Hi, What platform/language will the system be created

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2004-04-28 Thread Shawn Anderson
: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Hi, Glad someone is thinking for writing a decent log analyzer! Here is what I think should be in your project. -Storing the data in a MySQL database? -Will you release your software

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2004-04-28 Thread Fred
and sorry for the terrible english fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: 28 avril, 2004 11:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? I am leaning towards .NET (and maybe Mono

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2004-04-28 Thread Shawn Anderson
, 2004 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Ok, not having a database to store the data is no biggie. By asking if your software will support user/domain alias I was thinking of past log analyzers, every analyzers I tried became completely

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2004-04-28 Thread Shawn Anderson
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we can talk more. Shawn=20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of J=F8rn Aakre Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Hi, Didn't

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2004-04-28 Thread Michal Altair Valasek
Hello, |Making your software platform independent would be awesome, I mean that |having a perl script or a php script would make linux and |win32 folks happy. NO! To run PHP or Perl on Windows is a suicide, for security and performance reasons. With a lots of pain I'm very carefully runnig

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2004-04-28 Thread Shawn Anderson
I have to agree with you on this one :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michal Altair Valasek Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? Hello, |Making

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2004-04-28 Thread Fred
Anderson Sent: 28 avril 2004 12:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list? I have to agree with you on this one :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michal Altair Valasek Sent: Wednesday, April 28

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2004-04-28 Thread Mark Mealman
Python and Java both work very well on both platforms. I'm not sure how far along .NET with the Mono project, it's not something I've kept up with. I think if you stick to CLI interface stuff though it would probably be okay. -Mark On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 11:49, Michal Altair Valasek wrote:

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2004-04-28 Thread Chad Fleenor
i wrote a Perl Script to run in the Cron every 20 minutes to show the number of emails that are being processed by which IP address and it also associates it with the name of the user. It writes it out to a nicely formated web page also. This is used to see if there is any virus activity on the