[xmail] Connection timeout with vmware

2007-10-03 Thread Fabian Cenedese
Hi

I'm using xmail on a Linux Ubuntu in a vmware machine on Windows XP.
That's just for trying out but should still work fine. It usually works well
but sometimes a POP3 or SMTP connection from the mail client is not
closed immediately. I can see it in the debug output that POP3 client
connection from... is written and the corresponding POP3 client exit
comes like a minute later. And during this time of course I can't make
another POP as the mailbox is locked (I think). So I get client errors
like connection aborted due to timeout or other failure or connection
refused.
The client in such a case returns immediately, for him the connection
is closed.

Now I don't know if this is a problem with xmail (probably not), with
Linux, with vmware, with Windows or even something else. I just
wanted to ask if anybody has seen errors like these or might know
what could go wrong. Is anybody using xmail in a vmware machine?
Anything else I should look out for?

The mail client is on the same PC, so in the Windows that also
hosts the vmware machine. Network latency shouldn't be a problem
then, but maybe something else?

Thanks

bye  Fabi

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[xmail] XMail resends old emails after reboot.

2007-10-03 Thread Chad Fleenor
has anyone else had a problem with Xmail resending old emails (months 
old) after a system reboot??

Thanks,
chad
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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Hal Dell
 
Hello All...

Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a dictionary
for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Then the
eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the sender indicating
the eMail was
NOT delivered because of a bad eMail address.

So I've set NoSenderBounce to 1. By changing this setting will this stop
this behavior?

Next, I still need SenderBounce enabled for certain eMail accounts. I was
wondering why we don't push
down a lot of these configuration options to the domain level like
SmarterMail does? If a lot of folks using
xMail are ISP / ASP then this would make sense to have management control at
the domain level.

I don't know if you guys have seen this but the SPAMers are now using your
eMail Server, if eMail bounce back
Messages are on, to effectively SYN Flood someone. The way this works is
they get hold of some domain then
point that domain's A to an IP that does NOT have an eMail Server associated
with it. Typically, these domains
don't have MX records.

Then, they send a slow drip of eMails to the same domain, the effect is the
eMail Server tries to deliver the
bounce back to the sender over and over again. Each time the bounce back is
attempted an TCP connection
is attempted and of course a SYN is generated first.

Now, imagine, that you have several 100 eMails in the message queue, all the
time, all trying to connect to that
same IP at various intervals based upon the time they were received.

And now you get a SYN Flood.

How do we solve this? Can you simply ONLY send eMails to domains that have
MX records? I know this
Probally violates and RFC, however, we else can we do until someone decides
to fix the larger SPAM issue.


Thanks,
Hal Dell
Managing Partner
Willow Grove, PA


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[xmail] Re: XMail resends old emails after reboot.

2007-10-03 Thread Charlie Qualls
Hey there Chad,

I see this a lot.
I also have a problem that sometimes I get spam that appears to have
bypassed spamassassin. I can't figure this out.


-- 
Charlie Qualls
Property Director/IT Manager
Girl Scouts - Fox Valley Council



Wednesday, October 3, 2007, 9:08:09 AM, you wrote:

 has anyone else had a problem with Xmail resending old emails (months 
 old) after a system reboot??

 Thanks,
 chad
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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread K. Wolf
Hi,

Last weekend I had an example of this happen to one of my backup mail servers.
When I noticed the problem there were 27,000 NDR type messages it was 
trying to deliver.
Mostly all were sent to random [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mail server 
was diligently trying sending NDR's to every single one of them - 
most likely to faked or spoofed addresses.
I could actually sit and watch more junk flooding in, they appeared 
to be coming from many compromised hosts so blocking the IP's didn't 
really help.

So it would be very useful if Xmail at least had an option so that it 
does not send all the bounced email messages.
I realise this may not conform to the RFC's and I realise that not 
many people may use it, but it would still be a very helpful if the 
mail-admin found that NDR messages were getting out of hand.
One or two legitimate senders may not know that their mail was not 
delivered, but when compared to the type of flood described here its 
a small price to pay

Regards,
Wolfy


At 11:56 PM 3/10/2007, you wrote:

Hello All...

Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a dictionary
for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Then the
eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the sender indicating
the eMail was
NOT delivered because of a bad eMail address.

So I've set NoSenderBounce to 1. By changing this setting will this stop
this behavior?

Next, I still need SenderBounce enabled for certain eMail accounts. I was
wondering why we don't push
down a lot of these configuration options to the domain level like
SmarterMail does? If a lot of folks using
xMail are ISP / ASP then this would make sense to have management control at
the domain level.

I don't know if you guys have seen this but the SPAMers are now using your
eMail Server, if eMail bounce back
Messages are on, to effectively SYN Flood someone. The way this works is
they get hold of some domain then
point that domain's A to an IP that does NOT have an eMail Server associated
with it. Typically, these domains
don't have MX records.

Then, they send a slow drip of eMails to the same domain, the effect is the
eMail Server tries to deliver the
bounce back to the sender over and over again. Each time the bounce back is
attempted an TCP connection
is attempted and of course a SYN is generated first.

Now, imagine, that you have several 100 eMails in the message queue, all the
time, all trying to connect to that
same IP at various intervals based upon the time they were received.

And now you get a SYN Flood.

How do we solve this? Can you simply ONLY send eMails to domains that have
MX records? I know this
Probally violates and RFC, however, we else can we do until someone decides
to fix the larger SPAM issue.


Thanks,
Hal Dell
Managing Partner
Willow Grove, PA


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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Hal Dell

 Wolfy Wrote @ Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:37 AM

 Last weekend I had an example of this happen to one of my backup mail
servers.
 When I noticed the problem there were 27,000 NDR type messages it was
trying to deliver.

 Mostly all were sent to random [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mail server was
diligently trying sending
 NDR's to every single one of them - most likely to faked or spoofed
addresses.

 I could actually sit and watch more junk flooding in, they appeared to be
coming from many compromised
 hosts so blocking the IP's didn't really help.

 So it would be very useful if Xmail at least had an option so that it does
not send all the bounced email
 messages. I realise this may not conform to the RFC's and I realise that
not many people may use it, but
 it would still be a very helpful if the mail-admin found that NDR messages
were getting out of hand.

 One or two legitimate senders may not know that their mail was not
delivered, but when compared to the
 type of flood described here its a small price to pay

Yes, you are absolutely correct -- this is becoming a very SERIOUS problem.
All of this started with us back
in July. The problem comes and goes. [NB: NDR = ?]

However, the issue now is I'm getting complaints from the folks getting the
bounce backs because a lot
of time the from line in header is forged and points to a real eMail
Address. I'm also getting complaints
from the targets of the effective SYN Flooding.

What I started to do is test this work around idea -- create a bogon user
for said domain and set
the alias to a '*' then set the disk quota 1K. So this first captures all of
the bogus eMails for a domain
and once the quota reaches 1K an error should be sent back indicating the
mailbox is full.

The problem is that xMail still generates a bounce back eMail message !

Now, I'm not an SMTP RFC expert, however, if xMail would simply reply 452
Requested action not taken:
insufficient system storage instead of accepting the eMail we would be
fine. Let the sender deal with
the error. If it was a legitimate sender the sender's MTA would send the
bounce back to their user instead of us.

As I understand it, if the sending MTA gets a 4XX Reply code,  the response
code is considered to be a transient
Error and the sender's MTA is responsible for the queuing of the eMail and
trying again. The middle digit in the 452
error code, in other words  -- 5 indicates, the problem is with the
destination MTA.

If sure someone on the list knows this RFC stuff better and can offer
another solution that is more RFC compatible.

It think we need to get this NDR problem solved quick...

Thanks,
Hal Dell
Managing Partner
ePodWorks.net, Inc.





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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote:

 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:
 
   
  Hello All...
  
  Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a dictionary
  for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Then the
  eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the sender indicating
  the eMail was
  NOT delivered because of a bad eMail address.
 
 You call a filter. Filter timeouts. XMail tries to remove the spool file, 
 and fails. File remains inside the spool (but not in the in-memory queue). 
 Next time you restart XMail, it'll be picked up.

Heh, this was meant to answer the other thread :)


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[xmail] Re: XMail resends old emails after reboot.

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Chad Fleenor wrote:

 has anyone else had a problem with Xmail resending old emails (months 
 old) after a system reboot??

You call a filter. Filter timeouts. XMail tries to remove the spool file, 
and fails. File remains inside the spool (but not in the in-memory queue). 
Next time you restart XMail, it'll be picked up.



- Davide


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[xmail] Re: 451 Requested action aborted: (-20) local error in processing

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Rob Arends wrote:

 Hi Davide,
  
 I'm just trying to move an xmail setup to a win 2003 64bit server, and have
 got 99% of the way.
 However I find that I'm getting Blacklist (EIPMAP) errors in the smtp log,
 but nothing else.
  
 Investigations from another xmail server sending to the 64bit machine, I
 get:
  
 451 Requested action aborted: (-20) local error in processing
  
 A google shows nothing.
 What is the explanation of this error.

Did you rebuild XMail for 64 bit, or are you using XMail 32 binaries? 
Which version of XMail?



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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:

  
 Hello All...
 
 Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a dictionary
 for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Then the
 eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the sender indicating
 the eMail was
 NOT delivered because of a bad eMail address.

You call a filter. Filter timeouts. XMail tries to remove the spool file, 
and fails. File remains inside the spool (but not in the in-memory queue). 
Next time you restart XMail, it'll be picked up.




- Davide


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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Hal Dell


 Francis Wrote @ Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:37 AM

 Use glst (greylisting) :)
 Allmost 99% of these bad connexions will be elliminated, as 99% will =
never retry.
 And as glst will first response with a 4xx code, no NDR until second =
attempt connexion accepted by glst.

That is a good idea... However, when I tried Greylisting before with a
different eMail Server and I found some MTAs like Hotmail.com did not
re-queue the eMail for a second attempt like they should -- of course I did
not try this idea with xMail.

I am C challenged -- anyone have Windows 2K3 binaries that I can try out?

The only downside with this idea is that we still have to deliver the NDR at
some point.  I still think it is best we let the sending MTA handle the bad
eMail destinations.

Thanks,
Hal Dell
Managing Partner
ePodWorks.net, Inc.
Willow Grove, PA


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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:

  
 Hello All...
 
 Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a dictionary
 for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Then the
 eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the sender indicating
 the eMail was
 NOT delivered because of a bad eMail address.

Why doesn't your server reject bad addresses at SMTP level??
In *my* server, that stuf never even souch the spool. Actually, 99+% of 
SPAM gets puked on at RBL level.



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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote:

 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:
 
   
  Hello All...
  
  Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a dictionary
  for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Then the
  eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the sender indicating
  the eMail was
  NOT delivered because of a bad eMail address.
 
 Why doesn't your server reject bad addresses at SMTP level??
 In *my* server, that stuf never even souch the spool. Actually, 99+% of 
 SPAM gets puked on at RBL level.

s/stuf/stuff/
s/souch/touch/



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[xmail] Re: Connection timeout with vmware

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Fabian Cenedese wrote:

 Hi
 
 I'm using xmail on a Linux Ubuntu in a vmware machine on Windows XP.
 That's just for trying out but should still work fine. It usually works well
 but sometimes a POP3 or SMTP connection from the mail client is not
 closed immediately. I can see it in the debug output that POP3 client
 connection from... is written and the corresponding POP3 client exit
 comes like a minute later. And during this time of course I can't make
 another POP as the mailbox is locked (I think). So I get client errors
 like connection aborted due to timeout or other failure or connection
 refused.
 The client in such a case returns immediately, for him the connection
 is closed.
 
 Now I don't know if this is a problem with xmail (probably not), with
 Linux, with vmware, with Windows or even something else. I just
 wanted to ask if anybody has seen errors like these or might know
 what could go wrong. Is anybody using xmail in a vmware machine?
 Anything else I should look out for?

You'd need to see what is happening at TCP/IP level, with tcpdump (or 
similar) running *not* on a vmware box.
The whole xmailserver.org services run on a UML (User Mode Linux) hosting 
at Linode, and it's working beautifully so far.



- Davide


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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Hal Dell

 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:
 
 Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a 
 dictionary for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 etc. Then the eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the 
 sender indicating the eMail was NOT delivered because of a bad eMail 
 address.

 On Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:28 PM Davide wrote:

 Why doesn't your server reject bad addresses at SMTP level??
 In *my* server, that stuf never even souch the spool. Actually, 99+% of
SPAM 
 gets puked on at RBL level.

That's not been my experience. We have RBL (Zen) turned on at the head of
our
network and we dump like some 4000 eMails per hour during the day before
they
even get to xMail. The eMails that I am talking about get thru that filter
check.

I'm sorry, I should have said that we are running xMail V1.24 at present --
so I guess
I'm saying that our xMail Server V1.24 does NOT reject the bad destination
eMails
in the MTA session -- they seem to get queued for later retry delivery
attempts and
eventually an NDR is sent.

Is their a setting already built in V1.24 to stop this behavior? See example
eMail below...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is NOT a valid eMail address for that domain !

I also found that when an eMailbox is full; xMail also generates an NDR as
well.

In both cases is it not better to inform the sending MTA in the MTA session
that
their is a problem and send a 45x SMTP message reply? Or do you already do
this? If so then why to NDR?

Thanks,
Hal Dell
Managing Partner
ePodWorks.net, Inc.

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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:

 
  On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:
  
  Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a 
  dictionary for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  etc. Then the eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the 
  sender indicating the eMail was NOT delivered because of a bad eMail 
  address.
 
  On Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:28 PM Davide wrote:
 
  Why doesn't your server reject bad addresses at SMTP level??
  In *my* server, that stuf never even souch the spool. Actually, 99+% of
 SPAM 
  gets puked on at RBL level.
 
 That's not been my experience. We have RBL (Zen) turned on at the head of
 our
 network and we dump like some 4000 eMails per hour during the day before
 they
 even get to xMail. The eMails that I am talking about get thru that filter
 check.
 
 I'm sorry, I should have said that we are running xMail V1.24 at present --
 so I guess
 I'm saying that our xMail Server V1.24 does NOT reject the bad destination
 eMails
 in the MTA session -- they seem to get queued for later retry delivery
 attempts and
 eventually an NDR is sent.

Man, that depends on how you set it up. Not on XMail.


- Davide

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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread David Lord
On 4 Oct 2007, at 0:36, K. Wolf wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Last weekend I had an example of this happen to one of my backup mail servers.
 When I noticed the problem there were 27,000 NDR type messages it was 
 trying to deliver.
 Mostly all were sent to random [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mail server 
 was diligently trying sending NDR's to every single one of them - 
 most likely to faked or spoofed addresses.
 I could actually sit and watch more junk flooding in, they appeared 
 to be coming from many compromised hosts so blocking the IP's didn't 
 really help.
 
 So it would be very useful if Xmail at least had an option so that it 
 does not send all the bounced email messages.
 I realise this may not conform to the RFC's and I realise that not 
 many people may use it, but it would still be a very helpful if the 
 mail-admin found that NDR messages were getting out of hand.
 One or two legitimate senders may not know that their mail was not 
 delivered, but when compared to the type of flood described here its 
 a small price to pay

I can't say I've seen xmail behave as you're seeing.

I was getting lots of bogus bounces incoming from systems that have 
attempted to send from forged valid addresses @lordynet.org to 
invalid addresses and these have correctly been rejected by xmail 
(EAVAIL) but the badly configured remote system then returns a bounce 
email to the rejection back out to the forged sender, also including 
the original spam content. These were more than a little annoying due 
to effort in working out what was happening. It seems to have been 
fixed now.

David

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[xmail] SMTP Authentication for SMTP Relay in mailproc.tab

2007-10-03 Thread John Kielkopf
Any way to get Xmail to use authentication when relaying mail with 
smtprelay in mailproc.tab?

--John

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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Hal Dell

 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:
 
 I'm sorry, I should have said that we are running xMail V1.24 at 
 present -- so I guess I'm saying that our xMail Server V1.24 does NOT 
 reject the bad destination eMails in the MTA session -- they seem to 
 get queued for later retry delivery attempts and eventually an NDR is 
 sent.

 Man, that depends on how you set it up. Not on XMail.

I have a stock V1.24 out of the box -- only filter installed is xbmf.c.

We don't do any thing special If you know of some setting in server.tab
or
some other .tab file that controls this behavior please let me know.

Here is a sample MTA session:

220 smtp.phl1.epodworks.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[XMail 1.
24 ESMTP Server] service ready; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:37:29 -0400
HELO BOGUS.COM
250 smtp.phl1.epodworks.net
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 OK
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 OK
DATA
354 Start mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF
This Message is sent to a Bogus eMail Address and xMail accepts it.
250 OK S92C79B
QUIT
221 [XMail 1.24 ESMTP Server] service closing transmission channel

So the eMail was accepted because epodworks.com is a custom domain
which is then redirected to epodworks.net  -- both domain are on the same
xMail Server -- that's the problem!

Is their a better way to do this so that epodworks.com, epodwork.com
and epodwork.net are aliased so that we generate the 550 Mailbox
unavailable?

If I try an eMail directly to the real non-custom domain I get this:

220 smtp.phl1.epodworks.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[XMail 1.
24 ESMTP Server] service ready; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:40:53 -0400
HELO BOGUS.COM
250 smtp.phl1.epodworks.net
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 OK
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 Mailbox unavailable [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Hal Dell
Managing Partner
ePodWorks.net, Inc.
PO Box 22
Willow Grove, PA 19090
+1-215-830-0662 (phone)
+1-215-913-6894 (cell)

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[xmail] Re: SMTP Authentication for SMTP Relay in mailproc.tab

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, John Kielkopf wrote:

 Any way to get Xmail to use authentication when relaying mail with 
 smtprelay in mailproc.tab?

Check this out:

http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#smtp_client_authentication



- Davide


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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:

 
  On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:
  
  I'm sorry, I should have said that we are running xMail V1.24 at 
  present -- so I guess I'm saying that our xMail Server V1.24 does NOT 
  reject the bad destination eMails in the MTA session -- they seem to 
  get queued for later retry delivery attempts and eventually an NDR is 
  sent.
 
  Man, that depends on how you set it up. Not on XMail.
 
 I have a stock V1.24 out of the box -- only filter installed is xbmf.c.
 
 We don't do any thing special If you know of some setting in server.tab
 or
 some other .tab file that controls this behavior please let me know.
 
 Here is a sample MTA session:
 
 220 smtp.phl1.epodworks.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [XMail 1.
 24 ESMTP Server] service ready; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:37:29 -0400
 HELO BOGUS.COM
 250 smtp.phl1.epodworks.net
 MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 OK
 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 250 OK
 DATA
 354 Start mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF
 This Message is sent to a Bogus eMail Address and xMail accepts it.
 250 OK S92C79B
 QUIT
 221 [XMail 1.24 ESMTP Server] service closing transmission channel
 
 So the eMail was accepted because epodworks.com is a custom domain
 which is then redirected to epodworks.net  -- both domain are on the same
 xMail Server -- that's the problem!

Use alias domains for that.



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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Hal Dell
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:54 PM
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Subject: [xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:

 
  On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Hal Dell wrote:
  
  I'm sorry, I should have said that we are running xMail V1.24 at 
  present -- so I guess I'm saying that our xMail Server V1.24 does 
  NOT reject the bad destination eMails in the MTA session -- they 
  seem to get queued for later retry delivery attempts and eventually 
  an NDR is sent.
 
  Man, that depends on how you set it up. Not on XMail.
 
 I have a stock V1.24 out of the box -- only filter installed is xbmf.c.
 
 We don't do any thing special If you know of some setting in 
 server.tab or some other .tab file that controls this behavior please 
 let me know.
 
 Here is a sample MTA session:
 
 220 smtp.phl1.epodworks.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [XMail 1.
 24 ESMTP Server] service ready; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:37:29 -0400 HELO 
 BOGUS.COM 250 smtp.phl1.epodworks.net MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 
 OK RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 OK DATA
 354 Start mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF This Message is sent to a 
 Bogus eMail Address and xMail accepts it.
 250 OK S92C79B
 QUIT
 221 [XMail 1.24 ESMTP Server] service closing transmission channel
 
 So the eMail was accepted because epodworks.com is a custom domain 
 which is then redirected to epodworks.net  -- both domain are on the 
 same xMail Server -- that's the problem!

 Use alias domains for that.

OK. I'll research that...  So with this discovery I deleted the custom
domains for
epodworks.com, epodwork.com and epodwork.net -- epodworks.net is the real
domain so that is still present in the config.

Thanks,
Hal Dell
Managing Partner
ePodWorks.net, Inc.
Willow Grove, PA 19090






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[xmail] Re: XMail resends old emails after reboot.

2007-10-03 Thread Dale Qualls
As my spool gets inundated with  junk, I run this command every day at 
11:30 p.m. via a cron job.
find /var/MailRoot/spool -depth -name *.MX2 -ctime 1 -delete

MX2 is the name of one of my xmail boxes so all files in the spool have 
it appended to the end of the filename by default.

Works like a charm :)  This actually looks at the current day plus 1 day 
so you'll always have files 2+ (but less than 3) days old in your 
spool.  Checkout the man page on find to see the options for times 
(minutes, hours, etc...)


Davide Libenzi wrote:
 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Chad Fleenor wrote:

   
 has anyone else had a problem with Xmail resending old emails (months 
 old) after a system reboot??
 

 You call a filter. Filter timeouts. XMail tries to remove the spool file, 
 and fails. File remains inside the spool (but not in the in-memory queue). 
 Next time you restart XMail, it'll be picked up.



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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread CLEMENT Francis

 I have a stock V1.24 out of the box -- only filter installed is xbmf.c.


Never heard about xbmf !?!?
No link in xmailserver.org home page in available tools :/

I missed somethink usefull ?

Davide, what is the purpose of this filter ?

Thanks

Francis
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[xmail] Re: XMail resends old emails after reboot.

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Dale Qualls wrote:

 As my spool gets inundated with  junk, I run this command every day at 
 11:30 p.m. via a cron job.
 find /var/MailRoot/spool -depth -name *.MX2 -ctime 1 -delete
 
 MX2 is the name of one of my xmail boxes so all files in the spool have 
 it appended to the end of the filename by default.
 
 Works like a charm :)  This actually looks at the current day plus 1 day 
 so you'll always have files 2+ (but less than 3) days old in your 
 spool.  Checkout the man page on find to see the options for times 
 (minutes, hours, etc...)

This is rather wrong though, if your total spool message age can be longer 
than one day. To be safe, just use 2*T where T is the total time a message 
can live inside the spool (depends on the re-send policy params).



- Davide


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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, CLEMENT Francis wrote:

 
  I have a stock V1.24 out of the box -- only filter installed is xbmf.c.
 
 
 Never heard about xbmf !?!?
 No link in xmailserver.org home page in available tools :/
 
 I missed somethink usefull ?
 
 Davide, what is the purpose of this filter ?

http://www.google.com/search?q=xbmf.cbtnG=Search

;)



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[xmail] Re: 451 Requested action aborted: (-20) local error in processing

2007-10-03 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Rob Arends wrote:

 HI Davide,
 
 Xmail 1.24 
 And no I did not build 64-bit binaries - I don't have compiler, and I
 thought it should run in the 32-bit emulation - just like many other
 programs.
 
 Do you or anyone else have 64-bit binaries?
 
 What does the (-20) error indicate?  It seems it is likely to do with
 creating the spool file???

What does the Event Log say?



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[xmail] Re: 451 Requested action aborted: (-20) local error in processing

2007-10-03 Thread Rob Arends
HI Davide,

Xmail 1.24 
And no I did not build 64-bit binaries - I don't have compiler, and I
thought it should run in the 32-bit emulation - just like many other
programs.

Do you or anyone else have 64-bit binaries?

What does the (-20) error indicate?  It seems it is likely to do with
creating the spool file???


Rob :-)
 
_
It might look like I'm doing nothing, but on a cellular level, I'm quite
busy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Davide Libenzi
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:47 AM
To: xmail@xmailserver.org
Subject: [xmail] Re: 451 Requested action aborted: (-20) local error in
processing

On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Rob Arends wrote:

 Hi Davide,
  
 I'm just trying to move an xmail setup to a win 2003 64bit server, and
have
 got 99% of the way.
 However I find that I'm getting Blacklist (EIPMAP) errors in the smtp log,
 but nothing else.
  
 Investigations from another xmail server sending to the 64bit machine, I
 get:
  
 451 Requested action aborted: (-20) local error in processing
  
 A google shows nothing.
 What is the explanation of this error.

Did you rebuild XMail for 64 bit, or are you using XMail 32 binaries? 
Which version of XMail?



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[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags

2007-10-03 Thread Hal Dell


 I have a stock V1.24 out of the box -- only filter installed is xbmf.c.


 Never heard about xbmf !?!?
 No link in xmailserver.org home page in available tools :/

 I missed somethink usefull ?

xbmf was developed to deal with the eMail tail null-byte issue and another
liken brethren.

The Windows OSen (maybe others) has / had a problem with their MIME parsing
routines
such that if an eMail has improper termination sequence or tail at then
end of a particular
email message being recevied via POP3 it can hang eMail client programs.

Since, a lot of third party apps including Euroda use the Win API they hang
as well.

Therefore the purpose of xmbf was to filter out these eMail messages before
they
get into the user's eMailbox. 99.99% of the time any of these eMails that
are NOT properly
terminated are hacker eMail !

For windows search CheckPop3Tail -- this registry entry adds a check to MS
POP3 Service.

Check out this link:

http://xmailforum.homelinux.net/index.php?s=2579b675e310d8ffdc219b691909d79a
showtopic=3269


Thanks,
Hal Dell
Managing Partner
ePodWorks.net, Inc.
Willow Grove, PA 19090


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[xmail] Re: XMail resends old emails after reboot.

2007-10-03 Thread Dale Qualls
My xmail servers are only pass through boxes for redundancy and virus 
scanning (and yes, my retry is 1 day so having a 2 day purge is perfect 
in my scenario). 
The only things that ever stay in my spool are ndr's back to spammers.

Thanks!

Davide Libenzi wrote:
 On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Dale Qualls wrote:

   
 As my spool gets inundated with  junk, I run this command every day at 
 11:30 p.m. via a cron job.
 find /var/MailRoot/spool -depth -name *.MX2 -ctime 1 -delete

 MX2 is the name of one of my xmail boxes so all files in the spool have 
 it appended to the end of the filename by default.

 Works like a charm :)  This actually looks at the current day plus 1 day 
 so you'll always have files 2+ (but less than 3) days old in your 
 spool.  Checkout the man page on find to see the options for times 
 (minutes, hours, etc...)
 

 This is rather wrong though, if your total spool message age can be longer 
 than one day. To be safe, just use 2*T where T is the total time a message 
 can live inside the spool (depends on the re-send policy params).



 - Davide


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