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Interested people can help Simos polish his summer of code project.
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waited till software started to break user-side to consider
the fontconfig transition.
Ironically fontconfig was adopted in large part because the core fonts
system had major problems with internationalization.
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Le Lun 1 décembre 2008 10:39, David Miller a écrit :
From: Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:49:29 +0100 (CET)
Ironically fontconfig was adopted in large part because the core
fonts
system had major problems with internationalization.
Ironically you didn't read
Le Lun 1 décembre 2008 11:19, David Miller a écrit :
From: Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:58:17 +0100 (CET)
If there is somethign obvious here, is that emacs maintainers didn't
made due diligence by any reasonable definition. Even the kernel
made
major changes
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Le Lun 1 décembre 2008 13:33, Olivier Galibert a écrit :
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:15:05PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
BTW now that almost all the X userspace has been converted to use
fontconfig and modern TrueType/OpenType fonts, I expect the level of
attention fonts in legacy bitmap
Le Lun 1 décembre 2008 13:44, Olivier Galibert a écrit :
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:40:57PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
As usual, people who care about something are free to maintain it in
good shape, since this is how free software works.
What is there to maintain, exactly?
Fonts
in the first place. You have not-so-trivial problems like the
limited number of glyphs allowed in console fonts, the fact 4:3 15
VGA screens are not manufactured anymore, etc
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you there would not be any problem maintenance-side.
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defined by the hardware on the video card.
And the userspace that loads it which is limited to 512 codepoints
right now IIRC.
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Le Jeu 4 décembre 2008 08:31, Mattias Nissler a écrit :
However, xorg's evdev input driver currently drops all
keyboard events with code 255
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11227
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(before mouse wheel zooming took over MS thought a zoom lever in its
ergo keyboards would be a great idea), so if they are not part of the
255 crowd xorg currently zaps commanding zoom function should just be a
matter of sending those codes, and hoping zooming apps recognize them
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so they load the right spellchecking module, the right font rendering
module, tag the text with the right language for document formats that
support language tagging, etc.
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than having them hammer xorg and distro
lists to make core fonts work perfectly (which was never the case and
is unlikely to ever happen at this stage).
A lot of old *nix users have totally missed the fact fontconfig
happened, and need some education.
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the Fedora 12 cycle will probably start by mass bug-filling
against apps that need those symlinks.
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first evaluate switching to a higher-level library
such as cairo instead of continuing to use XLib directly. cairo (via
pangocairo) will use the modern font stack, and is now a foundation
library for gtk, firefox, (soon) OpenOffice.org, and many others.
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Le Mar 7 avril 2009 11:03, Tuomo Valkonen a écrit :
On 2009-04-07, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
XWindows changed a lot since 1994. Legacy stuff is still available
but
not really supposed to be used anymore, and in particular (and of
special interest to toolkit authors
the
time.
Blurring is the approach of the lazy arrogant elite that feeds shit to
the masses,
You're probably the only person on the list that can't figure how to
disable AA in fontconfig if you don't like it.
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Le Mar 7 avril 2009 14:06, Joerg Sonnenberger a écrit :
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 01:37:33PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
What has no changed is that apps using core fonts just crash all the
time.
Sorry, but stupid programmers not doing correct validation of return
values is NO ARGUMENT
Le Mar 7 avril 2009 14:52, Joerg Sonnenberger a écrit :
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 02:32:38PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
This is not something specific to core fonts.
Fontconfig-using apps do not crash for lack of fonts, because
fontconfig has built-in font substitution
Are you *really
is not listed proeminently as an X component, because it also
works on non-X systems but it is a core library for anything doing GUI
stuff under X nowadays (with the exception of QT apps, but QT has a
wider scope than cairo)
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of devices with different requirements (in
fact what is un-common is devices that only use keycodes 255, I tried
to buy one last time I was in the local chinatown to avoid dealing with
this issue — they don't exist anymore)
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an application bug.
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Le Jeu 22 octobre 2009 16:54, Bèrto ëd Sèra a écrit :
Yet, no matter how hard I looked for it, I could not manage to find a
way to assign a sequence of symbols (like an HTML o#828;#836;#820;)
to a key in a symbol file.
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22649
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without passing through a
shaper such as pango that queries fontconfig is not the way to support text
properly nowadays (I said pango because I don't remember the name of the
equivalent QT lib; and to add to your GTK and QT paths a very common one is
cairo=pango=freetype+fontconfig)
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, any app that relies on what you propose won't work for
non-US users
(the same can be said of iso-level5)
And some xkb maps use iso-Level3 iso-Level5 to give access to technical
symbols on the numpad, even for english.
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development, I'd expect enterprise distributions
such as RHEL to follow suit.
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of the
same age, but it's a heavy-duty app so people do report bugs instead of
cursing privately).
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have many of them, and want to interoperate with other people that use fonts
in existing formats on other systems, I can't see how your advice is anything
other than utterly wrong and dangerous.
Unless someone has a few billions to blow to check if your idea is workable.
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, harfbuzz) to do the
switching. An app should never implement a switching logic directly (that
confuses users when different app make different switching decisions instead
of relying on system libraries)
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