Russell Shaw wrote:
*SNIP*
You have plenty of time on your hands, don't you? This can mean only one
thing: You have an idea to sell, in the hopes that people will jump on
board and run with it and you won't have to do any work.
I hate to disappoint you, but it doesn't work that way.
David
David Bronaugh wrote:
Russell Shaw wrote:
*SNIP*
You have plenty of time on your hands, don't you? This can mean only one
thing: You have an idea to sell, in the hopes that people will jump on
board and run with it and you won't have to do any work.
I hate to disappoint you, but it
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:04:41AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:53:11AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
One can make their own widget libraries based on Xlib, then write apps
using the libraries. Nothing hard about that (hard is relative;)
It's
Man, don't have a job? Is your time worth anything to you?
And by the way ... I've never read so many *strange* arguments in one
discussion.
(using shm ximage for normal drawing is bullshit)
- Clemens
2010/1/30 Russell Shaw rjs...@netspace.net.au:
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Man, don't have a job? Is your time worth anything to you?
And by the way ... I've never read so many *strange* arguments in one
discussion.
I don't understand your point. I think it would be great if GTK
supported all the features he
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:04:41AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:53:11AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
One can make their own widget libraries based on Xlib, then write apps
using the libraries. Nothing hard about that (hard is
Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Man, don't have a job? Is your time worth anything to you?
And by the way ... I've never read so many *strange* arguments in one
discussion.
(using shm ximage for normal drawing is bullshit)
What do you suggest? I'd very much like to know.
How do other toolkits draw
Russell Shaw wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:04:41AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:53:11AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
...
He doesn't want non-trivial widgets, he wants full-screen and a menu,
remember? That's not something
Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Man, don't have a job? Is your time worth anything to you?
And by the way ... I've never read so many *strange* arguments in one
discussion.
(using shm ximage for normal drawing is bullshit)
What do you suggest? I'd very much like to know.
How do other toolkits draw
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:13:23AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
This means abstracting
everything with pointer indirections leading to slow
Any performance problems you may have are not caused by excessive
pointer dereferences.
feature-bare toolkits.
Which features are you missing from current
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:10:11PM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
None of this really matters because i don't care if i'm the only one that
uses this stuff. I'd prefer to be ignored as a troll because I have a better
job than programming all day and just hack on it as a hobby for my own use.
Would
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:13:23AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
This means abstracting
everything with pointer indirections leading to slow
Any performance problems you may have are not caused by excessive
pointer dereferences.
Not directly. In the context of widget kits,
Le 29/01/2010 00:41, Russell Shaw a écrit :
What i really meant was Forget existing widget toolkits. One can write
their own that is much better than the existing ones, if you architect the
thing right. Doing that is not a small job. Takes a lot of time just to
think about before even writing
Le Ven 29 janvier 2010 00:53, Russell Shaw a écrit :
One can make their own widget libraries based on Xlib, then write apps
using the libraries. Nothing hard about that (hard is relative;)
On the text processing front, hard is not relative. Working solutions are
quickly being reduced to
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:41:04PM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really
nontrivial running
Alan Cox wrote:
One can do all that with their own libraries based on Xlib. I don't use
any Xlib font functions.
And how is your Gujerati and accessibility ... ?
Non-existant, but the precise place and how it should be plugged in is defined
for easy addition if required.
I'm also not sure
Twas brillig at 23:29:43 29.01.2010 UTC+11 when rjs...@netspace.net.au did gyre
and gimble:
RS xcb is designed to preserve the Xlib api. I prefer to architect
RS things completely new and efficient.
Laughed out loud. Sorry, could not resist it.
--
http://fossarchy.blogspot.com/
Daniel Stone wrote:
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:53:11AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
Glynn Clements wrote:
Russell Shaw wrote:
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 06:34:37PM +0600, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
Twas brillig at 23:29:43 29.01.2010 UTC+11 when rjs...@netspace.net.au did
gyre and gimble:
RS xcb is designed to preserve the Xlib api. I prefer to architect
RS things completely new and efficient.
Laughed out loud.
Rémi Cardona wrote:
Le 29/01/2010 00:41, Russell Shaw a écrit :
What i really meant was Forget existing widget toolkits. One can write
their own that is much better than the existing ones, if you architect the
thing right. Doing that is not a small job. Takes a lot of time just to
think about
Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
Twas brillig at 23:29:43 29.01.2010 UTC+11 when rjs...@netspace.net.au did
gyre and gimble:
RS xcb is designed to preserve the Xlib api. I prefer to architect
RS things completely new and efficient.
Laughed out loud. Sorry, could not resist it.
I read, debug,
Le Ven 29 janvier 2010 14:40, Russell Shaw a écrit :
The right way is to make each font a smart font that is simply a C library
plugin.
In other words, you can't handle real-world fonts. Since those cost millions
and can take months or even years to create (see stix), since people like to
2010/1/29 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net:
Le Ven 29 janvier 2010 14:40, Russell Shaw a écrit :
The right way is to make each font a smart font that is simply a C library
plugin.
In other words, you can't handle real-world fonts. Since those cost millions
and can take months
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le Ven 29 janvier 2010 14:40, Russell Shaw a écrit :
The right way is to make each font a smart font that is simply a C library
plugin.
In other words, you can't handle real-world fonts. Since those cost millions
and can take months or even years to create (see
Hi all,
I want to make an application in C/C++ that draws fullscreen stuff on an
X11 server. Can anyone tell me how to do this?
Kind regards,
Dirk
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I just want to draw some stuff on screen, probably using cairo, but I
want this not in a window, but on the full screen.
Kind regards,
Dirk
John Tapsell wrote:
2010/1/28 Dirk De Becker dirk.debec...@dzine.be:
Hi all,
I want to make an application in C/C++ that draws fullscreen
2010/1/28 Dirk De Becker dirk.debec...@dzine.be:
Hi all,
I want to make an application in C/C++ that draws fullscreen stuff on an X11
server. Can anyone tell me how to do this?
What are you trying to do exactly? What does your program do?
John
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2010/1/28 Dirk De Becker dirk.debec...@dzine.be:
I just want to draw some stuff on screen, probably using cairo, but I want
this not in a window, but on the full screen.
That gives me zero new information.
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Presently, I am using gtk to create a drawable surface for cairo to
draw on, but I am wondering whether or not gtk is slowing the drawing
down a lot.
Therefor, I was wondering whether it is possible to do some drawing
with cairo, but not using gtk windows. However, I would preferably have
my
Tom,
Thanks for the clarifying questions, since I had no clue what
information John needs.
The answers:
- I want my program to be dominating the entire display (i.e. to be on
top of all other graphics). Maybe later on, I will like to be able to
switch between being inside a window and being
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 11:51 +0100, Dirk De Becker wrote:
Thanks for the clarifying questions, since I had no clue what
information John needs.
The answers:
- I want my program to be dominating the entire display (i.e. to be on
top of all other graphics). Maybe later on, I will like to be
Dirk De Becker wrote:
Tom,
Thanks for the clarifying questions, since I had no clue what
information John needs.
The answers:
- I want my program to be dominating the entire display (i.e. to be on
top of all other graphics). Maybe later on, I will like to be able to
switch between
Russell Shaw rjs...@netspace.net.au writes:
Dirk De Becker wrote:
Tom,
Thanks for the clarifying questions, since I had no clue what
information John needs.
The answers:
- I want my program to be dominating the entire display (i.e. to be on
top of all other graphics). Maybe later on, I
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really
nontrivial running this month.
Unless you need to get any real work done - like non western font
Russell Shaw wrote:
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really
nontrivial running this month.
On the contrary, using bare Xlib you would be
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:51:14 +0100
Dirk De Becker dirk.debec...@dzine.be wrote:
Tom,
Thanks for the clarifying questions, since I had no clue what
information John needs.
The answers:
- I want my program to be dominating the entire display (i.e. to be
on top of all other graphics). Maybe
Alan Cox wrote:
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really
nontrivial running this month.
Unless you need to get any real work done - like non
Glynn Clements wrote:
Russell Shaw wrote:
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really
nontrivial running this month.
On the contrary, using
Alan Cox wrote:
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really
nontrivial running this month.
Unless you need to get any real work done - like non
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:41:04PM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything really
nontrivial running this month.
You
One can do all that with their own libraries based on Xlib. I don't use
any Xlib font functions.
And how is your Gujerati and accessibility ... ?
I'm also not sure why you'd want to use Xlib nowdays. I mean Xlib has a
serial non-threaded model without callbacks that causes apps to block
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:53:11AM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote:
Glynn Clements wrote:
Russell Shaw wrote:
Forget widget toolkits. They're totally lame wrappers that hide
all the useful functionality from you, run like a waterlogged
sheep, and otherwise assume you don't want to get anything
2010/1/29 Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org:
Please, please, stop telling people to write their own toolkits; it's
quite possibly the worst advice I've ever heard on this list, to be
honest.
Not to mention that people are starting to demand cross-platform apps.
John
Harald Braumann wrote:
Maybe SDL (http://www.libsdl.org/) is for you. You can do fullscreen and
windowed mode, it is supported by cairo and you can do video (and 3D
too).
harry
Thanks Harry, I will look into this.
Dirk
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