Man Xserver and look for -fp.
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SSG Anybody knows about savage 4 support in Xfree ?
Yes. Decent in 4.2.1 (sometimes crashes), absolutely perfect (as far
as I can see) in CVS.
SSG can i use Opengl ?
You can use it, but it's not accelerated.
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AA 1. with freetype extension in XF86Config and making fonts.dir
AA file with ttmkfontdir;
AA 2. using a Font Server. I've found two servers: xfstt and xfs
AA (integrated on XFree86).
AA There are differences using first method instead of second? Which
AA is the best way to do font
KP Applications like the KDE 'klipper' monitor selection contents to save
KP them and also perform actions based on them. Right now, this happens by
KP having these clients contantly polling the selection.
Why can't klipper take the ownership of the selection, as xclipboard
does ?
(I'm not
YT Seems my mail got lost somehow...
No, it didn't. I did reply.
As far as I know, nobody is working on KDrive for *BSD.
Porting the accelerated KDrive servers should be a triviality.
Porting the generic server will be difficult until the FreeBSD folks
either provide a framebuffer device or
PRP Can anybody suggest me a small (less than 5MByte) free web
PRP browser that works on Kdrive and with Java Script support?
Dillo is brilliant. But no Javascript.
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HB Does anyone know what the problem might be ?
It is likely that your homebrew X server and your distribution-
provided gdm disagree on the location of authorisation files; try
disabling authorisation in gdm. (No, I cannot help you, I use xdm
myself.)
If that's not it, we need to see gdm's
HB Do you Think that a 4.2.0 KDRIVE will work with XFree 4.02 Libraries ?
No problem.
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KP Should I stick these into the regular server so that it will never again
KP fail to start due to a lack of fonts?
Yes.
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YT Is anybody working on porting Kdrive to FreeBSD?
Not to my knowledge.
The generic drivers will be difficult to port until FreeBSD get their
act together and either document their VM86 calls or else implement a
framebuffer device.
Porting the KDrive core and the accelerated drivers should be
HB 1. Where can I find information which accelerated drivers are
HB available for KDRIVE ?
http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xkdrive.1.html
Sorry, they're not documented.
HB 2. Is there a HOWTO on how to compile a KDRIVE with the
HB accelerated driver ?
xc/programs/Xserver/Imakefile
HB 3.
PP Pls give me hhe detailed procedure you followd to compile
PP the kdrive.
http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/kdrive.html
PP I'm also trying for the same. Is if that only the kdrive server is
PP sufficient to do every thing ??? Or does it require other library
PP and font
PPActually I'm using the frame buffer server where as the tiny x
PP uses svga server which is not suitable for my application.
There used to be a thing called Tiny X which was based on the SVGA
server. It exists no more.
There is nowadays a completely different trendily BiCapitalised thing
AA On checking, it appears that, apart from the lists for submitted patches,
AA all the private lists are defunct except for one, the devel list.
Or are there actual resons why outsiders can't read these lists?
(copyright stuff and what not?)
AA Officially, that is the only reason why the
I don't know if the VNC X server supports TrueType fonts. If not, you
could run an XFree86 font server and point your VNC X server at it.
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MN 1. Can TinyX use monochrome buffer ( depth=1) in Linux even though the
MN folder of mfb is not used?
Yes. fb can deal with 1bpp framebuffers.
MN 2. If the answer to above question is YES, what are steps to create it in
MN Linux?
Both Xvesa and Xfbdev will take depth one modes into account.
AA I think the original idea was that the please help me stuff would
AA be on newbie (although that name doesn't give the right impression)
I fully agree. I would expect many people to feel offended at being
forced to write
HR the XFree86 entry page has charset=windows-1252.
Would you be so kind as to explain what you mean?
If you're speaking of the Content-Type of http://www.xfree86.org/,
then you're wrong.
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KP If you're running current XFree86 CVS, you should be seeing ARGB cursors
KP all over your screen as Xlib has been hacked to use them in place of the
KP stock cursor images.
XCreateFontCursor ? Can that behaviour be disabled ?
Are monochrome cursors with no non-integer alpha values
If you're speaking of the Content-Type of http://www.xfree86.org/,
then you're wrong.
HR meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=windows-1252
Sorry, my mistake -- I only checked the HTTP headers.
HR meta content=MSHTML 5.50.4308.2900 name=GENERATOR
Yep. And then it says
XB I've got a segfault when running xftcache with your patch (on
XB uncompressed fonts, in my Type1 dir). I'll send you a backtrace if I
XB find the time to recompile it with symbols.
It really is a first draft. I tested it exactly twice (once on a
compiled PCF and once on a compiled BDF), and
JG though there is now a very interesting X library under development
JG by Bart Massey and a student.
The mention of M4 is a typo, right?
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DD Unless the old Type1 backend can unreservedly be replaced by the new
DD FreeType2 backend, then it should be disabled, and maybe even a fake
DD type1 font module created for the modular build so that existing
DD configurations don't break. If there are still reasons for wanting the
DD old
AH There's a problem with this at the moment. If you build a static
AH server you get two font renderers registered to deal with .pfa/.pfb
AH fonts. Solution Juliusz - is it just to disable Type1 for static builds
AH because it's too buggy ?
For now, all I can tell for sure is that I do disable
XB Is there a way to make xft2 read gzipped fonts ? Currently it doesn't,
XB and that makes all bitmaps fonts unusable.
http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/fonts/2002-October/002203.html
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U Does anybody know any solution around the problem of X crashing with
U Type1 big fonts ?
The current Type 1 backend will no longer be the default in 4.3.0.
The new Type 1 backend does not have this problem.
U Any other solution ?
Get the new FreeType driver from XFree86 CVS and recompile it
SO It seems like the right thing here is that with xkbdisable turned on,
SO X should just use my keyboard from Linux...including the sticky key
SO mappings.
There is no implementation of sticky keys in XFree86 outside of the
one provided by xkb (AFAIK). Doing what you request would require
ET 1. XFree 4.2 has better support for Unicode layout engines (e.g. shares
ETfont info with client) and it includes more unicode fonts. Does TinyX
ETsupport these things?
Yep. Keith actually develops ``these things'' for kdrive (Tiny X)
first, and only then ports to the XFree86 server.
BC After upgrading to XFree86 CVS to get native support for Intel 845 (
BC works great now but that's a different story), my MS Sans Serif font
BC looks really weird in Galeon - with lots on lines in between characters
BC (see attached picture). It used to work fine with the 4.2.0 supplied
BC
MM Note these arguments are the standard anti-xml arguments given by
MM most idots..
The XML proposals I've seen have been of the form ``I've just met
Goedel in the lift, and he told me XML is a good idea, so why don't
you folks implement XML for the server configuration file.'' Yours is
the
NL Well I change that and I still can't get X to run on my clients.
Are you using xdm (which is what I've assumed)? Xinit or startx? Or
perhaps kdm, gdm or somesuch?
If you're using xinit, you should put the path to Xvesa on the xinit
command line, or else have the X symlink point at Xvesa.
It's not XF86Config (which is not used in this case), it's the xdm
config file. On my system, it's /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.
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Ouch! You're tracking all motion events on the root window.
X11 is not MacOS, and you should tell the server exactly what events
you're interested in. In this case, I would create four small
OverrideRedirect InputOnly windows and only track EnterNotify events
for those four windows.
You
AA As a hint, Xlib code is in
AA xc/lib
AA and X server code is in
AA xc/programs/Xserver
Er, not quite. Some of the xc/lib code is used by the X server,
notably xc/lib/font.
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TK I would think about this in a different way. In my point of view, this
TK is a code generation bug in the compiler (gcc?). In a perfect world,
TK any piece of source code should compile and work perfectly even with
TK the most exotic optimization flags turned on.
Not necessarily. C9X allows
Does anybody know what shall I do to get my S3 Graphics Twister K Compaq
card to work in XF86?
KB And the Savage driver web page is at:
KB http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html
The important thing: as far as I know, no automatic configuration
tools recognise the Twister K. After
MN 1. I cannot find which module (section of code/file) xserver uses to write
MN data to the framebuffer after Pixblit routines. Where exactly does xserver
MN write to framebuffer array?
That's the code in Xserver/fb. See KdScreenInit in kdrive.c which
sets up the Screen's methods with a
RM Some comments:
RM - Is it neccesary that the encodings.dir created by mkfontdir uses
RM the full path to the encodings ?
No, it can be a relative path. Mkfontdir uses an absolute path so
that you can move the fonts directory (and leave the encodings in
place) without rebuilding the files.
MV DGA really shouldn't be used and I regret that it's still in the
MV X-server. I would like it to disappear in XFree86 5.0.
Mark,
I fully agree with your feeling, and I am sincerely sorry to say what
I'm about to say.
There is no denying, though, that there are applications that want to
do
ML I am using the LuciduxSans font. I am viewing content that
ML contains #x2026;, #x2014; and so on. I've been informed
ML by some of the folks working on Gnome 2.0 that these glyphs
ML are present in Microsoft's fonts but appear to be missing from
ML most of our XFree86 fonts. Is this
RM I thought the font encodings from Solaris (in
RM /usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/) are sufficient... maybe I
RM was wrong...
The SI only exports scalable fonts in ISO 8859-1. The font encoding
mechanism in XFree86 was developed independently from the one in
Openwindows. I don't even
KW | is a bug; however, as I'm hoping to phase out the current Type 1
KW | backend in favour of one based on FreeType 2 in time for 4.3.0, I do
KW | not intend to fix it.
KW :( ETA for 4.3.0?
Early 21st century.
However, the new unified font backend (Type 1 + TrueType +
OpenType/CFF) should
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MH Interesting problem reported on bugtraq:
MH http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/276120
I see. Two bugs here.
One is the dodgy error
SZ Now I want to know whether Tiny X support Truetype font.
Yes.
#define BuildFreeType YES
It may also be possible to use X-TT in Tiny X, but I don't know if
anybody has tried it out.
#define BuildFreeType NO
#define BuildXTrueType YES
SZ If so, what is the difference of the West and
MH Even moreso I hope nobody uses PEX. ;o)
Could somebody smart explain why PHIGS was abandoned? Is that because
OpenGL is strictly more expressive?
(Not being argumentative here, but genuinely incompetent and curious.)
Juliusz
Congratulations.
To what extent is the version of Xinerama that X.Org are proposing
compatible with the XFree86 one?
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JC Is there any good way to input arbitrary unicode characters via the
JC keyboard in a en_US.UTF-8 locale?
JC I cannot find any sign of an XIM server for this. Everything I've
JC found seems to be targted to CJK input.
XIM is not really suitable for Unicode input, as it is a locale-
sensitive
I've never seen anybody use the security extension, and have yet to
feel the need for it.
AA It seems to appear at the same time as the remote X extension, xrx,
AA which makes me think that the idea something like this:
AA You have a browser (netscape was one possiblility) with an xrx
AA
Are there any video projectors that embed an X server?
JG Keith and I have been spending some time thinking about projector walls,
Well, I was thinking about something much simpler. At every
conference I've been to, we loose a good few minutes per hi-tech talk
while the chairman (sweating
Hi Keith,
So I've got this new laptop manufactured by Compaq. It has a touchpad
manufactured by Synaptics, which looks to Linux like a PS/2 mouse.
Under Windows, however, there's a specific driver with loads of cool
functionality (like measuring the diameter of your thumb in real time).
AS I get an internal compiler error in programs/luit during make install.
Wow.
AS Now I want to keep the preprocessed source files with -save-temps option of
AS gcc but do not know where to add this option. I tried in adding it the
AS Makefile in programs/luit but that didn't work..
$ cd luit
XB http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no\bug=147898
Very curious. So you've got this freeze that you can only reproduce
if you use Xinerama + FreeType + xfs? If any one of these is missing,
everything works fine?
XB be surprised.
Indeed.
I'd love to attempt to reproduce
JF Ok. But, when not using RENDER, in the presence of xfs who does the actual
JF rendering: the X server or xfs? In other words, does the xfs handle
JF glyphs, or just the whole font files themselves to the X server?
In the presence of xfs, core X fonts are rasterised by xfs which sends
CHT Alt_L + 1: ±
[...]
man xterm and search for metaSendsEscape.
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BSI red that New X is supporting the TTF
BSWhat does it mean ?
http://www.xfree86.org/current/fonts.html
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XB Doesn't work too well with Xinerama though
Er???
The FreeType backend is a font backend just like the others. It
merely produces glyph bitmaps and doesn't know about what the upper
layers of the server do with them.
I would be very, very
QP hw/kdrive/linux, but i didn't have any luck to find the code relevant to
QP killin X with ctrl-alt-BS.
Sorry, my wrong. That's KdCheckSpecialKeys in kdinput.c.
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QP OH! does that mean it does not use XF86Config at all? it's weird cuz i
QP recall TinyX setup and configuration involved modifying a XF86Config file..
QP well, that's okay as long as i can make X behave the way i want. so, how do
QP i:
QP 1. make X get not killed with ctril+alt+BS pressed?
BC But some of the url says you need to have a Frame buffer support
BC and Xfbdev will not work other wise
You need framebuffer support in your Linux kernel -- nothing to do
with XFree86 sources.
Xvesa (the other generic KDrive server) should work on all x86
machines, independently of
BSIf run a Xapplication from remote machine, the Xapplication
BStakes the fonts from local machine or remote machine ?
In XFree86, we have two types of fonts: traditional core fonts and the
new ``Xft fonts''.
Core fonts are provided by the server and come from font files on the
server
with more renderers/extensions, please see
http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/kdrive.html
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MV Xinerama is merely an extension that makes two X screens look like
MV one.
Merely?
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TH X is running fine using the tiny-x xfbdev [...] is there a way to
TH set up a virtual resolution or is this not implemented in the
TH server?
I don't think so; or at least I don't recall seeing any relevant code
in kdrive.
Juliusz
MG I have managed to compile a XvesaServer,
Congratulations.
MG After starting this server, I try to run an application, and I get the
MG error message:
MG Can't do 4 bits_per_pixel colormap. What do I have to take into
MG account when programming for TinyX? (because this app worked
MV I can't even think of a case where Xlib can behave differently
MV depending on an X driver. I don't think it's possible for this to
MV be a driver specific problem.
The cost of some server-side data structures depends on the driver,
right? So in principle a client-side leak of
Hello,
For a few weeks now, the XFree86 CVS has included a new utility
``luit'' under xc/programs/luit.
Luit does not cause any obvious security issues on systems with SVR4
ptys (SVR4, Linux 2.2 with libc 2.1.0 or later). On systems without
SVR4 ptys, however, luit falls back to using BSD
Dr Andrew C Aitchison writes:
AA I thought (hoped?) that the scalable font renderers could cope with
AA unusual dot pitches.
The scalable renderers will indeed handle reasonable font pitches fine.
The only issue I can see is the one of delta hints in TrueType
fonts. Delta hints apply to one
SG 2. Copy and paste fails in an XTerm window. However, I can paste a
SG selection from an XTerm window into an RXVT window or into Emacs.
Does Shift-Button2 work? (In case the application running within
XTerm is mouse-aware.)
If not, upgrade your XTerm. The latest versions should have no
LdS where can I find this vesa driver and Xvesa server.
LdS thanks...
In XFree86 4.1.0 and later.
The vesa driver is built by default, and is documented in its manual
page.
The Xvesa server is *not* built by default; for information about it,
please see
Is your locale set correctly? Assuming you're running Linux/glibc,
what does the ``locale'' command yeidl?
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I tried to upgrade to Xfree 4.1.0 from 4.0.1, and now my Netscape comes
up with the words on the Toolbars as little squares instead of letters,
looks like a loss of Fonts.
This just a guess, but make sure you're running everything 4.1.0, in
particular the font server if you're using one.
On an eight-bit visual, XDPS will allocate a 9-level gray ramp, and a
4x4x4 colour cube, for a total of 73 colourmap entries. (Colour
allocation happens on the client side in XDPS.)
Can RENDER deal with such a configuration?
KP RENDER must have the colors allocated within the server;
On an eight-bit visual, XDPS will allocate a 9-level gray ramp, and a
4x4x4 colour cube, for a total of 73 colourmap entries. (Colour
allocation happens on the client side in XDPS.)
Can RENDER deal with such a configuration?
Juliusz
BB This is fine for the initial deployment, but there is a
BB requirement to have a button that kicks off a script that will
BB kill off X and then restart it.
BB I have the restarting working just fine, but wondered if there was
BB a safe, reliable way to kill X from a script?
You could start
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