RE: [delicious-discuss] forum for analysis of del.icio.us
There's lots of things del could be. I guess it's up to Josh and the others working on the project to go with what they think is best. I know enthusiastic posts via this discussion group often go unrewarded, so you're not alone in your want to make del just that much better for users. Get in line, hey. -Original Message- From: Amir Michail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2005 11:39 AM To: Scott Villarosa Cc: discuss@del.icio.us Subject: Re: [delicious-discuss] forum for analysis of del.icio.us On 10/1/05, Scott Villarosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is it. Well, if that's the case, then how far do you think we can go in analyzing del.icio.us users? Obviously, certain things would be unacceptable such as automatically inferring an estimate of their IQ based on their bookmarks! But what about inferring their personality? Is that going too far? What about their profession? Their true identity? What other aspects of del.icio.us users would be interesting to discover (preferably in an automated way)? Amir -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amir Michail Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2005 10:09 AM To: discuss@del.icio.us Subject: [delicious-discuss] forum for analysis of del.icio.us Hi, Is there a good forum for analysis of del.icio.us in particular and social bookmarking in general? What about a forum for analysis of del.icio.us users and interactions between them? Amir ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] forum for analysis of del.icio.us
On 9/30/05, Amir Michail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/1/05, Scott Villarosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is it. Well, if that's the case, then how far do you think we can go in analyzing del.icio.us users? Obviously, certain things would be unacceptable such as automatically inferring an estimate of their IQ based on their bookmarks! But what about inferring their personality? Is that going too far? What about their profession? Their true identity? I was only just starting to think of this one the other day: If you have a way to watch users using del in action, you could observe their categorizing performance under conditions of varying distraction. (operationalize the performance by looking at number of tags they use when in a hurry, at work, etc (semantic distractions vs non-semantic) as well as the seeming fit of the tags to what they are bookmarking though that is much more problematic) That has probably been done before in many, many experiments but the cool thing is that del is not in an experimental setting and there is such a huge population of users, and they are voluntarily doing tasks that in another setting an experimentor might have had to trick them into doing. Of course the huge problem is that no one declares intent when using the service--so this is like observing animals in the wild vs. in a lab. :) del is like a huge memory experiment, as well as a huge meta-cognition experiment. In school I remember participating in meta-cognition experiments where they had pre and post surveys about expected performance in a class, how many hours one studied for a test, how one exected to do, etc. It would be hard to figure out the successful use of a stored link, but the common intent is to save something to find it later (duh?) and we get to watch how people think they'll be able to find their information later. they'll make up a list of key words, and depending on how they use del use some sort of combination of recall, recognition, etc. You could take a population of del users and have an almost guaranteed set of subjects who have decided to remember something. You could study recall, recognition. look at the affect of context, infer the level of processing they did based on the tag set (except this is clouded now by suggested tags, but otoh you could use this data to improve suggested tags?) and then study performance based on level of processing. just thinking out loud. -- sheila ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] forum for analysis of del.icio.us
Presumably, a person followed their own link after storing it would be roughly analogous; this is information we should probably gather sometime in the future. Likewise, how much a person clicks on their own tags. Joshua On Oct 1, 2005, at 9:24 AM, sheila miguez wrote: It would be hard to figure out the successful use of a stored link, but the common intent is to save something to find it later (duh?) and we get to watch how people think they'll be able to find their information later. they'll make up a list of key words, and depending on how they use del use some sort of combination of recall, recognition, etc. -- joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] forum for analysis of del.icio.us
Presumably, a person followed their own link after storing it would be roughly analogous; this is information we should probably gather sometime in the future. Likewise, how much a person clicks on their own tags. Joshua If/when that's done, it'd be great *not* to wrap the URL inside a redirector as some other social bookmarking sites do. Unadorned links is a del.icio.us advantage. Thanks, -Mike Michael Wiik Messagenet Communications Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] forum for analysis of del.icio.us
The advantages of unadorned links are copy-ability and that they show the right link in the statusbar? I think this is doable without breaking those things. Joshua If/when that's done, it'd be great *not* to wrap the URL inside a redirector as some other social bookmarking sites do. Unadorned links is a del.icio.us advantage. Thanks, -Mike -- joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
