Re: Getting printer-friendly version of web page for archive

2008-01-12 Thread TjL
 Webarchives fit in with priority 1 as well. A webarchive is just a
 bundle containing an HTML file and associated graphics files. I have a
 feeling I'll still be able to read HTML files in 30 years on whatever
 computer I'm using.

I suspect the larger issue will be what to do with my massive Yojimbo
library when it's either no longer supported or a move to another
platform or decide that it's just gotten too big for Yojimbo

TjL

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Re: Getting printer-friendly version of web page for archive

2008-01-10 Thread Kenneth Kirksey


On Jan 10, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Rich Siegel wrote:


Aren't webarchives more flexible/editable than PDF files?


Not in any way that I'm aware. :-)


One big difference is that web archives preserve links, while printing  
to PDF doesn't.


Also, depending on your web browser, printing to PDF can really bork  
the page layout. Firefox seems to be a little better than Safari on  
getting the layout right.


Web archives are also more flexible in the sense that if you have a  
web archive, you can create a pdf or text representation of the page.  
You can't go from a PDF or text to a web archive though.


Just my $0.02.



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Re: Getting printer-friendly version of web page for archive

2008-01-10 Thread Rich Siegel

On 1/10/08 at 12:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TjL) wrote:


Aren't webarchives more flexible/editable than PDF files?


Not in any way that I'm aware. :-)


I've always preferred webarchives to PDFs ... But maybe I'm mistaken?


I can't speak to mistaken on matters of personal preference. 
I'd suggest giving print-to-PDF a try for this purpose and see 
how it works for you...


R.
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Re: Getting printer-friendly version of web page for archive

2008-01-10 Thread Kenneth Kirksey


On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:46 AM, TjL wrote:


Is there a way (OTHER than using Print To Yojimbo) to get a WebArchive
of a webpage to use the Print CSS file?

The new Macworld.com design (which I loathe) took away the easy
printer-friendly URLs.  If you actually print them (even to PDF) you
get a so-called printer-friendly version, but how I like the store web
pages is to make a web archive of them instead.


The solution I settled on is to use the Scrapbook extension in Firefox  
to caputure the parts of the page I want to save. I then save the page  
I captured in scrapbook to Yojimbo.


It's an extra step, but you can automate it using a macro utility  
(e.g. Quickeys or iKey). I posted instructions on how to do that to  
the list a couple of weeks ago.




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Re: Getting printer-friendly version of web page for archive

2008-01-10 Thread Kenneth Kirksey


On Jan 10, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Rich Siegel wrote:

One big difference is that web archives preserve links, while  
printing

to PDF doesn't.


This may not be universal, but I have a number of PDFs printed from  
web pages in which the web links actually work. It's possible that  
this is a feature of the 3.0 WebKit that is in 10.4.11 and later.


Learn something new every day! It does work ... in Safari. Doesn't  
work in Firefox, which is my default browser. Oh well...




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Re: Getting printer-friendly version of web page for archive

2008-01-10 Thread TjL
On 1/10/08, Rich Siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/10/08 at 1:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Kirksey)
 wrote:

 One big difference is that web archives preserve links, while printing
 to PDF doesn't.

YES!  Thanks for reminding me... I knew there was a madness to my method :-)


 This may not be universal, but I have a number of PDFs printed
 from web pages in which the web links actually work. It's
 possible that this is a feature of the 3.0 WebKit that is in
 10.4.11 and later.

Ah, that might be.

So far the easiest answer has been to copy from OmniWeb and then have
Yojimbo capture it in the Quick Entry thingy.  You lose the nice
formatting of images float:left or right but other than that it works
pretty well and I can get just what I want.  Then I go back and copy
the URL and paste that in before sending it into Yojimbo proper.

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