Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Le 2 oct. 08 à 21:00, Bruce, Phillip a écrit : If your logged into a container, how can your verify the name of the global zone running the container? You can't ! And this is a feature not a bug. Nicolas 01010101 01001110 01001001 01011000 Nicolas Dorfsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Jeff Victor
Although it's a feature, if you need this functionality, the global zone can store its name in a file which the Container can read. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Nicolas Dorfsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 2 oct. 08 à 21:00, Bruce, Phillip a écrit : If your logged into a container, how can

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Le 2 oct. 08 à 21:14, Jeff Victor a écrit : Although it's a feature, if you need this functionality, the global zone can store its name in a file which the Container can read. Sure. But I think it's a bad idea. We must not create a hole where the operating system is secured. Even if you

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Nicolas Dorfsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. But I think it's a bad idea. We must not create a hole where the operating system is secured. Even if you think it doesn't mind because you know the existence of this file(hole), what could be the consequence

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Moore, Joe
Mike Gerdts wrote: 1. Let's pretend that a zone is a virtual machine. I could make the same argument using longer sentences if that makes someone happy. 2. For example, if you know all global zones are on the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet, the following will give you a pretty good clue. Other zones

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Hi Mike, Le 2 oct. 08 à 21:47, Mike Gerdts a écrit : The overall availability of a server comes from a number of factors which include security and usability. If the level of separation that you are worried about is a critical factor, I'd suggest not using zones. They are good but

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Steve Lawrence
The other way that the global zone identity normally leaks through to the non-global zones is through the system's hostid. So if you compare the output of `/usr/bin/hostid` with `for e in $allglobalzones ; do ssh $e /usr/bin/hostid ; done`, you can easily see which global zone matches your

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Le 2 oct. 08 à 22:00, Moore, Joe a écrit : The other way that the global zone identity normally leaks through to the non-global zones is through the system's hostid. So if you compare the output of `/usr/bin/hostid` with `for e in $allglobalzones ; do ssh $e /usr/bin/hostid ; done`,

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread James Carlson
Moore, Joe writes: The other way that the global zone identity normally leaks through to the non-global zones is through the system's hostid. So if you compare the output of `/usr/bin/hostid` with `for e in $allglobalzones ; do ssh $e /usr/bin/hostid ; done`, you can easily see which

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Bruce, Phillip
Jeff, Thanks how would I do that? Phillip -Original Message- From: Jeff Victor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:14 PM To: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container Although it's a feature, if you need

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Bruce, Phillip
:47 PM To: Nicolas Dorfsman Cc: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Nicolas Dorfsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. But I think it's a bad idea. We must not create a hole where the operating system

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Moore, Joe
Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: Personally, we've defined a DNS alias for zonename-vh to point to the global zone for each of our local zones. That way we can `ssh www-zh zoneadm -z www reboot` easily. Interesting. Why don't ssh to the non-global ? `ssh www init 6` That assumes several things

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Phillip, Le 2 oct. 08 à 22:38, Bruce, Phillip a écrit : Mike, Using zonecfg command can ONLY be used at the global zone level not at the container level. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/adm# zonecfg zonecfg can only be run from the global zone. What are you trying to do exactly ? The

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Le 2 oct. 08 à 22:37, Moore, Joe a écrit : Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: Personally, we've defined a DNS alias for zonename-vh to point to the global zone for each of our local zones. That way we can `ssh www-zh zoneadm -z www reboot` easily. Interesting. Why don't ssh to the non-global ?

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Menno Lageman
On 10/02/08 22:42, Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: Phillip, Le 2 oct. 08 à 22:38, Bruce, Phillip a écrit : Mike, Using zonecfg command can ONLY be used at the global zone level not at the container level. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/adm# zonecfg zonecfg can only be run from the global zone.

Re: [zones-discuss] Confirming Zone running Container

2008-10-02 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Menno Lageman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/02/08 22:42, Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: Phillip, Le 2 oct. 08 à 22:38, Bruce, Phillip a écrit : Mike, Using zonecfg command can ONLY be used at the global zone level not at the container level. [EMAIL