Thoughts welcome :>.

Berin Lautenbach wrote:

> OK - I'm going to take the idea to the board.
> 
> Before I do - we need a couple of things.
> 
> 1.  A name.  I'd personally be against anything fancy or non-obvious.
> But I don't really want to use "Apache Security" as I think it will get
> too confusing against the security group within the ASF (the group that
> looks after security bug reports etc.)  "Apache Infosec"?  "Apache
> Secure"?  Obviously there is a reason I never went into marketing :>.
> 
> 2.  A scope.  Probably not hard.  "...open-source software related to
> security..." is a good place to start I suspect :>.
> 
> I also wouldn't mind to take some first steps as to what we want to do.
>  Obviously set up xml-security and JuiCE, but I'd personally like to see
> the ASF become a source of best practice for security software as well.
>  Longer term - but an interesting goal for a tlp within the ASF.  And if
> we are going to use this as an exercise in raising interest in what we
> are doing inside/outside the ASF, then we want to think about what kind
> of message we want to give people when the project goes to top level.
> 
> I'd also like to use it as a central point people can go to in order to
> see all security related software in the ASF.  Not to have projects like
> WS-Security under the security project, but to have links to other
> projects/efforts in the ASF that are related to security software.
> 
> Thoughts welcome!
> 
> Cheers,
>       Berin
> 
> Ben Laurie wrote:
> 
> 
>>Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Dear Ben and Dear Ben,
>>>
>>>what do you guys think? A Security Federation/TLP/PMC. Starting with
>>>Apache XML-Security and Apache Juice.
>>
>>
>>It sounds like a very good idea to me, I'd certainly support it. Of
>>course, we already have a CA. Written in, errr, perl :-)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Ben.
>>
>>
>>
>>>thanks,
>>>-- dims
>>>
>>>On 3/11/06, Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would be interested in widening it as well - with the proviso that it
>>>>is like a federation.  I.e. we use it to seed projects then build them
>>>>and spawn them into TLPs once they grow to size.
>>>>
>>>>I might start sounding some people out.
>>>>
>>>>Dims - what's your thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>On the subject - having spent the most of Saturday searching for a
>>>>decent Open Source CA, I'd now be interested in building one that
>>>>doesn't use &[EMAIL PROTECTED] perl.  I.e. do the core in C++ with perl/PHP
>>>>being used for the interfacing only.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>       Berin
>>>>
>>>>Werner Dittmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>+1 from me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just a comment regarding the charter: is it really only Apache XML
>>>>>Security? IMHO this would be a bit too narrow, for example JuiCE is
>>>>>not dependent on XML, maybe other security related software will be
>>>>>pop up later as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>I would like to see an "Apache Security" PMC that would address all
>>>>>kind of security relevant software and act as a solid base to deliver
>>>>>security functions to other Apache projects. Also we may think to
>>>>>browse existing Apache projects to see if there is already software
>>>>>(maybe even multiply implemented) and pool them here.
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW, I would be happy to be a part of this activity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Werner
>>>>>
>>>>>Berin Lautenbach wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Peoples,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sometime back we talked about becoming a TLP.  With the recent JuiCE
>>>>>>efforts, + JSR 105 + XKMS we are starting to see a few different things
>>>>>>occuring.  I'd be hugely in favour of starting something at a higher
>>>>>>level in Apache to get some visibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm also toying with the idea of creating a broader security
>>>>>>project/federation to encourage that kind of software within the ASF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Draft proposal for the board below.  If we want to do this - all active
>>>>>>committers will need to vote either on this or on a broader (or even
>>>>>>narrower!) charter terms of reference that we all can agree to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>    Berin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>>     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>     open-source software related to XML security technologies,
>>>>>>     for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache XML Security PMC",
>>>>>>     be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>>     Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     RESOLVED, that the Apache XML Security PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>>     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>     related to creation and maintenance of open-source software
>>>>>>     related to XML security technologies based on software licensed
>>>>>>     to the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache XML
>>>>>>     Security" be and hereby is created, the person holding such
>>>>>>     office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as
>>>>>>     the chair of the Apache XML Security PMC, and to have primary
>>>>>>     responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
>>>>>>     of responsibility of the Apache XML Security PMC; and be it
>>>>>>     further
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>>     hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>>     Apache XML Security PMC:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  <!-- List out all committers in format of
>>>>>>    Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>  -->
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, than ??
>>>>>>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appointed to the office of Vice President,
>>>>>>     Apache XML Security, to serve in accordance with and subject
>>>>>>     to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>>>>>>     Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>>>>>     disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
>>>>>>     further
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache XML Security PMC be and hereby
>>>>>>     is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>>     encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>>     Apache XML Security Project; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     RESOLVED, that the initial Apache XML Security PMC be and hereby
>>>>>>     is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>>     XML PMC XML Security subproject; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the XML XML
>>>>>>     Security sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache XML PMC are
>>>>>>     hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>--
>>>Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
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