+1 to #3 +1 to Sanctuary BTW, do I have karma to XML-security? Or "only" to WebServices? :-)
Regards, Werner > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Mai 2006 14:06 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: TLP Resolution > > +1 to #3 (you as chair and all of us as pmc members) > > On 5/2/06, Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All, > > > > So we have two names that people seem to like > > > > Raksha > > Santuary > > > > Any other takers? > > > > We also have a scope of > > > > "...open-source software related to security..." > > > > Thoughts welcome! > > > > If no more ideas come forth on either of these, I'm going to start a > > vote covering: > > > > 1. The proposal - do people support it to go to the board > > 2. The name > > 3. A PMC Chair. My thinking is all current committers > become PMC members. > > > > On #3 - I'm going to volunteer, but I'd also encourage > anyone else who > > is interested to put their names or the names of others forward! > > > > Cheers, > > Berin > > > > Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > > > Here's one i was thinking about - Raksha > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raksha) > > > > > > thanks, > > > dims > > > > > > On 3/15/06, Jesse Pelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Some random ideas to get the name game going, based on > your indicated > > >>vision for the project: "SecureSoft," "Security > Software," "Vault," > > >>"Shield," "Armor," "Guard," "Sanctuary," ,"Citadel," > "Surety," "Security > > >>Blanket" (or "Linus," with a nod to Charles Schulz' > "Peanuts," but you'd > > >>want to get permission). With the possible exception of > the last, none > > >>of these indulge the Apache penchant for obscure > references, though. > > >> > > >>But the name is really the last piece. You need a > clearly articulated > > >>purpose and scope before you can come up with a name that fits. > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: Berin Lautenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:13 AM > > >>To: [email protected] > > >>Subject: Re: TLP Resolution > > >> > > >>Thoughts welcome :>. > > >> > > >>Berin Lautenbach wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>OK - I'm going to take the idea to the board. > > >>> > > >>>Before I do - we need a couple of things. > > >>> > > >>>1. A name. I'd personally be against anything fancy or > non-obvious. > > >>>But I don't really want to use "Apache Security" as I > think it will > > >>>get too confusing against the security group within the > ASF (the group > > >> > > >>>that looks after security bug reports etc.) "Apache Infosec"? > > >>>"Apache Secure"? Obviously there is a reason I never went into > > >> > > >>marketing :>. > > >> > > >>>2. A scope. Probably not hard. "...open-source > software related to > > >>>security..." is a good place to start I suspect :>. > > >>> > > >>>I also wouldn't mind to take some first steps as to what > we want to > > >> > > >>do. > > >> > > >>> Obviously set up xml-security and JuiCE, but I'd > personally like to > > >>>see the ASF become a source of best practice for > security software as > > >> > > >>well. > > >> > > >>> Longer term - but an interesting goal for a tlp within > the ASF. And > > >>>if we are going to use this as an exercise in raising > interest in what > > >> > > >>>we are doing inside/outside the ASF, then we want to > think about what > > >>>kind of message we want to give people when the project > goes to top > > >> > > >>level. > > >> > > >>>I'd also like to use it as a central point people can go > to in order > > >>>to see all security related software in the ASF. Not to > have projects > > >> > > >>>like WS-Security under the security project, but to have links to > > >>>other projects/efforts in the ASF that are related to security > > >> > > >>software. > > >> > > >>>Thoughts welcome! > > >>> > > >>>Cheers, > > >>> Berin > > >>> > > >>>Ben Laurie wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>Dear Ben and Dear Ben, > > >>>>> > > >>>>>what do you guys think? A Security Federation/TLP/PMC. > Starting with > > >>>>>Apache XML-Security and Apache Juice. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>It sounds like a very good idea to me, I'd certainly > support it. Of > > >>>>course, we already have a CA. Written in, errr, perl :-) > > >>>> > > >>>>Cheers, > > >>>> > > >>>>Ben. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>thanks, > > >>>>>-- dims > > >>>>> > > >>>>>On 3/11/06, Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>I would be interested in widening it as well - with > the proviso that > > >> > > >>>>>>it is like a federation. I.e. we use it to seed > projects then build > > >> > > >>>>>>them and spawn them into TLPs once they grow to size. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>I might start sounding some people out. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Dims - what's your thoughts? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>On the subject - having spent the most of Saturday > searching for a > > >>>>>>decent Open Source CA, I'd now be interested in > building one that > > >>>>>>doesn't use &[EMAIL PROTECTED] perl. I.e. do the core in C++ > with perl/PHP > > >>>>>>being used for the interfacing only. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Cheers, > > >>>>>> Berin > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>Werner Dittmann wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>+1 from me. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Just a comment regarding the charter: is it really > only Apache XML > > >>>>>>>Security? IMHO this would be a bit too narrow, for > example JuiCE is > > >> > > >>>>>>>not dependent on XML, maybe other security related > software will be > > >> > > >>>>>>>pop up later as well. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>I would like to see an "Apache Security" PMC that > would address all > > >> > > >>>>>>>kind of security relevant software and act as a solid base to > > >>>>>>>deliver security functions to other Apache projects. > Also we may > > >>>>>>>think to browse existing Apache projects to see if > there is already > > >> > > >>>>>>>software (maybe even multiply implemented) and pool > them here. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>BTW, I would be happy to be a part of this activity. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Regards, > > >>>>>>>Werner > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>Berin Lautenbach wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>Peoples, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>Sometime back we talked about becoming a TLP. With > the recent > > >>>>>>>>JuiCE efforts, + JSR 105 + XKMS we are starting to see a few > > >>>>>>>>different things occuring. I'd be hugely in favour > of starting > > >>>>>>>>something at a higher level in Apache to get some > visibility. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>I'm also toying with the idea of creating a broader security > > >>>>>>>>project/federation to encourage that kind of > software within the > > >> > > >>ASF. > > >> > > >>>>>>>>Thoughts? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>Draft proposal for the board below. If we want to > do this - all > > >>>>>>>>active committers will need to vote either on this > or on a broader > > >> > > >>>>>>>>(or even > > >>>>>>>>narrower!) charter terms of reference that we all > can agree to. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>Cheers, > > >>>>>>>> Berin > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be > in the best > > >>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > >>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > >>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > >>>>>>>> open-source software related to XML security > technologies, > > >>>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project > Management > > >>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache XML Security > > >> > > >>PMC", > > >> > > >>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > >>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache XML Security PMC be > and hereby is > > >>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > >>>>>>>> related to creation and maintenance of > open-source software > > >>>>>>>> related to XML security technologies based on software > > > >> > > >>licensed > > >> > > >>>>>>>> to the Foundation; and be it further > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache XML > > >>>>>>>> Security" be and hereby is created, the person > holding such > > >>>>>>>> office to serve at the direction of the Board > of Directors as > > >>>>>>>> the chair of the Apache XML Security PMC, and > to have primary > > >>>>>>>> responsibility for management of the projects within the > > >> > > >>scope > > >> > > >>>>>>>> of responsibility of the Apache XML Security > PMC; and be it > > >>>>>>>> further > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately > below be and > > >>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial > members of the > > >>>>>>>> Apache XML Security PMC: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> <!-- List out all committers in format of > > >>>>>>>> Berin Lautenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, than ?? > > >>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appointed to the office of Vice > President, > > >>>>>>>> Apache XML Security, to serve in accordance > with and subject > > >>>>>>>> to the direction of the Board of Directors and > the Bylaws of > > >> > > >>the > > >> > > >>>>>>>> Foundation until death, resignation, > retirement, removal or > > >>>>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is > appointed; and be > > >> > > >>it > > >> > > >>>>>>>> further > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache XML Security > PMC be and > > >> > > >>hereby > > >> > > >>>>>>>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws > intended to > > >>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased > participation in the > > >>>>>>>> Apache XML Security Project; and be it further > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache XML Security > PMC be and > > >> > > >>hereby > > >> > > >>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the > > >> > > >>Apache > > >> > > >>>>>>>> XML PMC XML Security subproject; and be it further > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to > the XML XML > > >>>>>>>> Security sub-project and encumbered upon the > Apache XML PMC > > >> > > >>are > > >> > > >>>>>>>> hereafter discharged. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>-- > > >>>>>Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ >
