Doug, Spectrographic analysis might be one way to determine of the amount of silver oxide present in CS.
I wonder if there is more production of silver oxide in the high-voltage CS systems, where a lowering of pH has been observed (see message from 6-28-98, below). pH measurements are useful, since any consumption of oxygen (producing silver oxide) could leave behind a relative surplus of hydrogen -- thus lowering the pH. I don't think we can assume that the small bubbles (observed during CS production) all immediately rise to the surface, thus taking 100% of the dissociated hydrogen and oxygen 'out of the picture'. I'd be interested to learn if ozone (O3) can be smelled exiting a high-voltage CS system -- possibly indicating that hydrogen peroxide is also present, dissolved in (acidic?) CS liquid. I read that ordinarily, CS and hydrogen peroxide should not be used together. Then, what are the long term effects on CS (and on it's effects), if the CS is produced containing hydrogen peroxide. Would it rapidly turn into colloidal silver-oxide (CSO) ? Is CSO useful, as long as it's a colloid ? Or, is CSO the final product, after the antibiotic potential has been expended ? Can we measure the 'bioactive potential' of CS, by quantifying the CS/CSO ratio ? Is the CS/CSO ratio a factor of the pH ? I don't know the facts, but I'm picturing a 0.010 micron colloidal silver particle as 1) containing perhaps 10,000 to 100,000 silver atoms, 2) having a net positive charge, and 3) being (in some cases) partially or entirely coated with silver- oxide molecules, therefore appearing and acting as 'colloidal silver-oxide' (CSO). CSO may be harmless(?) to higher life forms, but entirely useless(?) as an antibiotic, although stomach acid could perhaps turn it into ionic or dissolved silver (but stomach acid should not be an issue if consumed on an empty stomach). Can anyone supply any corrections or additions to the above ? --Bill K. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 6-25-98, Bill K. wrote: Bill, Bob, I have a hunch that the low pH is caused by electrolysis. The high voltage is breaking the water into hydrogen and oxygen. Then the dissolved hydrogen causes the pH to fall. With an acid pH, the silver rods are rapidly dissolving, accounting for the high TDS. Sounds like the HVAC method may have some flaws, and the results may not be what you want.... Further research needed before using the product on people ??? --Bill K. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 6-23-98, Bob Lee wrote: > > Hi Bill and list, > > This is very interesting. You have indicated that everything is > OK using DC, normal ppm and pH. Then you say its abnormal using > AC (HVAC), with hi ppm and pH close to vinegar. I can understand > the hi ppm, caused by large particles of silver (larger than > 100mu, milli-microns) ... > > <snip> > > About the pH however , its not very clear what the cause could > be. Something is there that should not be there, a contaminate > of some kind. > > Pure water and pure silver will not give much of a pH change. > I find my CS is slightly base (alkaline) at 6.8 pH after making > it. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >bill...@cheerful.com wrote: >> >> Bob, >> >> My TDS-1 seems to work fine with DC CS however when i use my >> HVAC CS maker (Motherlode) it seems to read way too high. >> Making the HVAC CS according to specs I should only be reading >> 8-10 ppm but I am reading 63 - 68 PPM, also the ph goes from >> 7 when I start to 3.5 at the end. With DC I end up reading >> 8 - 12 PPM and there is no change in the ph, it stays at 7. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> thanks, >> Bill > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@id.net>
