Have you tried cleaning tough stuff with just washing soda? It is the most amazing stuff. I got it to do Hulda Clark's recommended stuff and use it for pans, sinks, etc. You can use it with a cloth, brush or nylon pad. I mainly use a brush. And hot water. And do a Wayne, cleaning without anything where I can. Any more like you at home, Wayne? Once a week duties would do quite nicely; I would save all the dishes and pots willingly. Borax of course is the other useful stuff in cleaning. Rowena
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