Jason: What is your recommended process/materials for cleaning electrodes (I have an SG6)?
Thanks, Terry ---- Jason R Eaton <ja...@eytonsearth.org> wrote: > Hi Dan: > > I've always taught people to pay extra careful attention to keeping > electrodes in good shape. > > I don't think using any type of chemical solution is anywhere near as > effective as a bit of old fashioned elbow grease and non-reactive abbrasive. > > And the problem with using any dipping or chemical solution to cleanse the > silver rods is that no matter how hard you try, you are still going to get > uneven wear on the silver ( even if you at first can't see it with the naked > eye). That means, that nothing short of polishing will return silver > electsrodes to their most ideal state for brewing. And it does make a very > big difference in quality. > > That's my one problem with the SG-7; it's difficult to properly clean the > electrodes; a bit of an art form, but with practice, it gets easier. I know > there are alot of people who think that cleaning electrodes is not > necessary, but I can easily demonstrate the difference between batches done > with pristine electrodes, and ones that aren't. > > Oh, and don't forget to add Ivan to the list; not sure what ever became of > his laboratory grade CS generator project, but I also learned alot from his > creative exploits. > > ~Jason > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Nave" <bhangcha...@gmail.com> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:42 > Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Whew! > > > You wrote: > "> So if someone wants to throw a simple resistor between two leads on a > nine > > volt battery, toss two curved electrodes in distilled water and call it a > > holy smoke device, that's great... but it's nothing new." > > I think that, if nothing else, we will find that the idea and method > of "desulfurizing" *is* new and will be an extremely useful tool for > EIS making. > > Also, In spite of any disagreements over chemistry equations, I > appreciate the efforts of many people including Ole Bob, Bob Lee, > Marshall, Ode, and Mike Monett in making the process of CS or EIS > production more understandable and removing it from the realm of > having to make it by the "phase of the moon" or thinking that there is > no way to get understandable or consistent results. > > Dan > > > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Jason R Eaton <ja...@eytonsearth.org> > wrote: > > Hi David: > > > > Indeed. Certainly a forgiveable offense, in my book. > > > > The problem I have with individuals who display similiar tendencies (I'm > > certainly not going to comment directly about MM in particular, because I > > do > > not know him), is that they tend to leave a wasteland of human carnage > > wherever they go. > > > > Healing isn't about science, it's about people. Science isn't about > > technical pursuit, it's about rigorous honesty and meticulous observation. > > > > Where I draw the line is the true motives of an individual. It is quite > > normal for people to say their motive is one thing, and have it be very, > > very different. Sometimes you have to listen very, very carefully in order > > to hear. > > > > For example, there's a reason I refer people to Trem and 'Ode, and that > > reason only superficially has to do with the quality of their products. I > > know that neither of them are going to tell the people I send to them > > something that is going to cause them harm, and that they are going to be > > as > > honest as they know how to be, and for no other motive than it's the > > decent > > thing to do. > > > > If I were to send someone to MM currently, and they had strep throat, his > > advice could possibly kill them. You don't treat throat infections with > > sublingual anything, least of all strep. I also wouldn't appreciate very > > much if he told his "single mother with three kids" that her pneumonia or > > bronchitis couldn't be helped with EIS nebulization because she would get > > something similiar to mesothelioma. > > > > And I don't think it is very brilliant science that states that there is > > no > > oxidation in the EIS process; and the individual turns around and talks > > about silver hydroxide formation (silver hydroxide is an oxide, which is > > formed through oxidation). > > > > When I run into a bad case of suspected strep, I tell the individual if > > they > > want to treat it with silver, and without modern medicine, they need to > > follow instructions exactly, and if they don't choose to do it, that's > > fine; > > they need to go see a doctor. > > > > Treatment is simple and has always been effective, but requires a constant > > supply of fresh ions. Just 1/2 ounce or so, held under the tongue for > > about > > a minute or so, and trickled down the throat, at least every 15 minutes > > until the throat starts to feel better, and then about every hour or two > > until the problem is gone. If results are not achieved within 48 hours > > (which has never happened in my experience), then one would still need to > > see an qualified MD. > > > > Some strep infections are really simple, and some are very aggressive. One > > cannot know offhand how aggressive the infection is, or why. > > > > I'm all for methods to improve EIS. I'd be working on them myself, only I > > haven't ever had the need. The stuff we make works extremely well, and > > always works for the things I believe it WILL work for. > > > > So if someone wants to throw a simple resistor between two leads on a nine > > volt battery, toss two curved electrodes in distilled water and call it a > > holy smoke device, that's great... but it's nothing new. > > > > ~Jason > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bearrow" <chip...@verizon.net> > > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 08:05 > > Subject: RE: CS>[List Owner] Whew! > > > > > >> Mike Monet originally joined the group back in 2006 with complaints about > >> mold spores which is why he came to us. He was so desparate to find an > >> answer about his mold problem to the point where he was triple washing > >> his > >> clothes and burning holes in his bedsheets with strong chemicals. He even > >> mentioned fires in the microwave in his zealous though misguided attempt > >> to > >> kill the spores he supected were poisening him. > >> > >> Mike is a brilliant electronics engineer. At some point his mind fogged > >> and > >> he suspected the mold. As a result he came here and gleaned information > >> from > >> the group. He improved his eating habits and developed scientific methods > >> of > >> EIS production. His mind began to clear and he began to refine the > >> process. > >> Mike's intelligence is such that he has no social skills nearly to the > >> point > >> of being a sociopath. As he got his mind back (who knows if it was spores > >> or > >> what) he refined existing protocols for EIS production and now has hit on > >> something that makes logical sense to his electonics trained mind. > >> However > >> his focus on things electrical and scientific was to the exclusion of > >> social > >> skills and so he blasted through the group like a bull in a china shop > >> never > >> considering he might be hurting peoples feelings. Indeed he would scoff > >> that > >> a person would allow their rational mind to be overcome by a feeling. > >> > >> I write this so that you the reader might understand a little of the > >> psyche > >> of Mike Monet and perhaps be able to forgive the crude manner in which he > >> communicated. Maybe even have empathy for him as he is surely a lonely > >> person. > >> > >> David Bearrow > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:09 PM > >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> Subject: CS>[List Owner] Whew! > >> > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> Whew! > >> > >> Mike M. has safely unsubbed from the group, and I wish him well in his > >> venture. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > >> > >> Unsubscribe: > >> <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> > >> Archives: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > >> > >> Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > >> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >