This is wonderful news, Jeff.  One piece of information.  If you wife is 
post-menopausal she might want to stay out of baths and hot tubs.  As tissues 
thin and lose tone it allows bacteria to infiltrate the urethra and thus cause 
bladder infections.PT

      From: Lena Guyot <drumr...@stny.rr.com>
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:18 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Update on Wife's Bladder
   
Hi Jeff,
Your story is inspiring! Congratulations! Meanwhile, we need more sockless 
docs: and patient, persistent, determined people like you and your wife are the 
people to create them!
Be well,Léna


On Nov 11, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Jeff wrote:

Sorry it has taken so long to do this. I was given a lot of useful help and 
suggestions from here and I wanted to update what we have been doing. As you 
may remember, my wife has been suffering for almost 3 years with a bladder 
problem ( that has never been really diagnosed because it doesn’t fit 
completely into any category ) that has caused her to be in almost constant 
pain with flare ups of intense pain, frequency with flare ups of having to go 
every 5 minutes, uncontrolled bladder function, bleeding, we were told the 
inside of her bladder looked like hamburger meat, she has been on every drug 
for bladder healing and every antibiotic and had 2 fulgurations after which we 
were told the bladder would have to be removed. This was on 7-30 of this year 
and confirmed the end of August at post op visit. After some research and 
getting advice from the helpful folks here, this is what we did.  Starting on 
September 3 I began doing irrigations of CS ( made with silver puppy and run on 
manual for tow hrs after light goes off. Not sure of the ppm, maybe Ode can 
weigh in on that ) once a day. I would have preferred more often but this is 
all we could manage. I won’t go into a lot of details on this because it would 
make for a very long post.  We started with 30cc because that was all she could 
handle and she only held it for 11 minutes.After a few days she could hold it 
for 30 minutes which was our goalShe was also sitting in a hot tub for 15/20 
minutes before the procedure to help relax everythingWe have had our share of 
failures due to different reasons but we got most of the bugs worked outI 
gradually increased the amount by 10cc a week and it was rough but she fought 
hard to keep it for 30 minAlso added 1200mg MSM capsules once a day after the 
first weekDuring the third week I started introducing some DMSO to the CS 
slowly building up to 2mlAfter 3 weeks she was out of the pain meds she was on 
and we decided not to refill and see what happensShe had trouble sleeping for 
about a 4 days due to not taking one of the meds but pain was bearableShe would 
experience involuntary spasms after stopping the muscle relaxer that would push 
the CS outAnd cause us to fail. I started her on D-Mannose and the spasms 
stopped.  That is pretty much our regiment now except we no longer use the hot 
tubWe don’t do the procedure on the weekendsThe pain reduced on a daily basis 
till last Friday when she told me she was pain freeShe has control of her 
bladder and has no more flare ups or frequency problemsShe is on no medication 
at all for over a monthShe can take 4oz of CS in her bladder and hold it for 30 
minutes no problem ( up from 30cc )I can’t seem to break the 4oz barrier for 
some reason but we don’t see the doc till FebSo we will keep plugging away. We 
are hoping to blow his socks offThanks again for all the help, hopefully more 
updates to come.Jeff