Hi Max,

   Here are the ones with the leads on them that I got.
http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntt=610-1N5298


Take care,
 V
Energize With Light
http://www.theledman.net/

> Thank you for the detailed basics on soldering.  I was not even aware
> that I wasn't getting a nice 2 wire thing with a nice long lead.  They
> sure don't cost much, I may just buy those "easy" ones and practice on
> the short lead diodes. And I'll check out the specs on the 3-lead diodes too.

> "M. G. Devour" <mdev...@eskimo.com> wrote: Hi Max,

> I think you've set yourself at a bit of a disadvantage without 
> realizing it. The easier way to go would have been to buy diodes with 
> leads rather than surface mount. You may want to return them (if the 
> vendor allows that) or write them off and order some with leads.

> I've never done anything with surface mount yet. If you put the 
> following into Google, you'll get some guides to equipment and 
> technique:

> "surface mount" "soldering technique"

> As you explore electronics you'll find a lot of hobbyist info and rub 
> elbows with ham radio enthusiasts a lot. They are good resources.

> The most important things about soldering are clean surfaces, proper 
> flux, and applying heat the right way...

> If you're using standard components of any kind, the leads are usually 
> tinned or plated with something to prevent tarnish. Wire or circuit 
> boards may or may not be plated. If there is any visible tarnish or 
> corrosion, then scrape, sand, or scrub the surfaces gently until 
> they're bright. Something as simple as a pencil eraser could be enough, 
> or a knife blace or a little fine sandpaper. The exact method you use 
> depends on common sense and the mechanical requirements of the 
> situation. Leave your belt sander in the cabinet!!! 

> Flux is the next step in getting clean surfaces. It is designed to 
> dissolve the invisible oxide layer that inevitably forms on metal 
> surfaces so that the soldering alloy can wet to the surfaces being 
> joined for a strong mechanical and chemical joint.

> In metalworking you might use acid fluxes or borax or other chemicals. 
> KEEP ALL SUCH FLUXES AWAY FROM ELECTRONICS WORK! 

> The only safe kind of flux to use in electronics is rosin. Now, 
> electronics folks have made it easy for you. Just buy rosin core 
> electronics solder from any of the electronics suppliers. Since you're 
> working with small stuff, small diameter solder is best. Something 
> around .04 inches (1mm) is best. It takes very little heat to melt.

> Lastly, proper application of heat requires a reasonably sized 
> soldering iron, an appropriately shaped and clean tip, and a firm 
> understanding of what it is you're trying to accomplish...

> For small stuff like this you only need a 25W iron, and a small, 
> slender tip. You'll probably find good suggestions for equipment for 
> SMC use in the resources you dig up online. Take advantage of their 
> experience. You *won't* be using a big honking 200W soldering gun or a 
> metalworker's iron that's heated with a torch! 

> Get a holder with a sponge in the base to put your iron in when it's 
> not in your hand. You'll need the sponge and it'll protect the 
> environment (and you) from accidental burns.

> If you want to go first class, get yourself a temperature controlled 
> soldering station with all the bells and whistles. They heat up fast 
> and can pour a lot of power into the job, but won't overheat the work. 
> Expensive, but a real joy to have if you decide to get into the hobby 
> long term.

> Now that we've got everything at hand, let's see what we have to do to 
> make a good joint...

> Heat your soldering iron. When it's up to temperature melt a little 
> solder on the tip. The flux from the solder will bubble up and smoke, 
> and a small blob of solder should cling to the surface. Then wipe the 
> tip with a quick swipe on the damp sponge. It should end up shiny. 
> You'll do this anytime you pick up the hot iron and it isn't still 
> shiny. Often another swipe on the sponge will bring it back. If not, 
> another small touch of solder will be needed.

> Your soldering tip is now ready to apply to the joint.

> You've already made sure that the surfaces to be joined are shiny. You 
> should also be sure that the mechanical joint between the parts is 
> stable and reasonably strong. Using solder as "glue" to hold a joint 
> together is not the best technique in general. It is susceptible to 
> vibration and fatigue. With PC mount components you've got leads going 
> through a hole to stablize things. With SMC you usually have the part 
> glued to the substrate to keep it in place while it's being soldered. 
> Joining wires, or wires to terminals, you'll wrap or twist or pinch the 
> joint so it's mechanically sound before you solder.

> Finally, the big moment. Here's where you finally see what it is you're 
> trying to accomplish.

> Apply your shiny, tinned soldering tip to the junction of the parts to 
> be joined. Poke the solder into the joint near but not on the tip to 
> see if the parts are hot enough to melt the solder.

> Remember: You are heating the PARTS hot enough so they will melt the 
> solder, NOT heating the solder.

> Once the parts are hot enough, you'll see the rosin in the solder melt, 
> spread, and bubble all over the joint followed almost immediately by 
> the solder melting, flowing and wicking into all the crevises of the 
> joint. Allow enough solder to melt into the joint to fill all the low 
> points with a nice fillet. Remove the solder and iron and you should 
> have a perfect joint, shiny and smooth.

> If the parts to be joined are of different weight, say a thin wire and 
> a large terminal, you'll have to apply the iron more to the heavier 
> part than the lighter one. Sometimes a tiny blob of fresh solder on the 
> surface of the tip will help you to make a good thermal contact to the 
> metal of the joint. These sort of subtleties will be obvious once you 
> see and understand what's going on.

> The most important point is that you're heating the joint and the joint 
> is what is heating the solder. Heat is applied, the flux melts, then 
> the solder flows in after the flux.

> With a little practice you'll be able to easily make reliable joints 
> with the minimum amount of heat and just the right quantity of solder. 
> All the frustration usually stems from having the wrong equipment and 
> materials, or else not understanding the basic process. You shouldn't 
> have those problems if you do a little study and practice.

> You might want to buy some kind of inexpensive electronics kit to give 
> you some experience with electronics components, PC board assembly and 
> basic soldering. That, and you can end up with a useful or entertaining 
> gadget when you're done.

> Hope that helps.

> Be well,

> Mike D.

>> Thanks Wayne.  My previous "practices" though not numerous were
>> frustratingly poor quality and they were nothing like this in
>> difficulty.  How about conductive epoxy solder?  I went looking for some
>> around town and did not find any, but I know it exists.  Would that be a
>> good alternative?  Any drawbacks?

> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com                        ]
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