Quoting Natasha Vita-More <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
At 03:04 PM 1/24/2008, Gudrun wrote:
and N. Vita-More
This is confusing. Fine that extropians want to self-improve. That
ALL humanity should improve, is quite questionable. Does all
humanity want to improve (immortality, happy pills, ...)?
Good point. Thank you for catching this and questioning it. You are
correct that not ALL humanity should improve if they do not want to
improve. That is why I support human rights to augment. I have
written and lectured on this quite a bit. Since we are both located
within the arts (you find art and me technology design) we ought to
discuss this openly and review each other's papers.
GB
Great.
..........
How does the baptism work? Brainwashing, force-feeding, consumer
promise, gentle persuasion, religiously inspired promises?
Now you are being either silly or snide and that does not further discussion.
Gudrun B.
Honestly, not silly (what a judgement) or snide, just a bit playful. Should be
allowed. Do not forget, Natasha, that somebody could hijack extropian ideas or
ideologies and become some really brutal super-dictator who wants to impose an
extropian world view.
Think about communism that had failed and had to fail. Marx's ideas were good,
nevertheless. Stalin was not that great, was he. Personalities and ideas, they
clash, ideas are vehicles, they are currency.
Every ideology is created by and 'transmitted' via its members, via
people with
ideas, lust for power and 'world domination'.
Up to now, I have more looked into transhumanist societies and their
statements.
I will study extropians more carefully in future. Thanks for this really
enlightening correspondence.
G.Bielz
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