At 10:26 AM 11/19/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>
>The post equating Noise to Turbulence deserves another mention. There really
>is very little energy in the sound itself. Were it not for the associated
>Turbulence, sound would be trivial.
>
>Bill Swingle
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Janesville, CA
>

At sound pressure levels you can encounter flying models, you are right.
Sound has very little energy.  The sound is generated by vortices which can
contain a lot of energy.  Therefore, sound can be considered to be a
symptom of drag even though the noise does not make a significant
contribution.  

About 30 years ago, I designed a small low noise wind tunnel for the
express purpose of studying noise generated by perforated walls required
for transonic wind tunnel testing.  Unfortunately, these walls also
generate a lot of noise.  I spent two years measuring noise levels and
finding a way to reduce the noise level to that of a solid wall wind
tunnel.  In this investigation, I measured noise levels in excess of 150 db
at a Mach number of 0.8.  At these sound pressure levels, I was able to
obtain schlieren photographs of sound waves that looked like shock waves
normally seen at Mach numbers above 2.  

Chuck Anderson 
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