As somebody said before on this list we are all grown ups, if SI dies we will adapt. I have to teach kids to do 3d animation using Max on a daily basis, so when questions of workflow come up you can imagine I feel like the devil. "Do we really need to do this?" "There has got to be an easier way for this by now". It is freaking 2014 and we have to tell them about editmesh, editpoly, gpoly, it is a mess... but we get through it! For now it is great to use SI as a personal secret weapon and be able to cook custom deformers, simulators, rig components and have other people's jaw drop. Will use it for as long as I can. After that things like FE or HE may come to substitute it. May everyone have a great 2015! Em 02/01/2014 15:57, "Francisco Criado" <malcriad...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> Hi guys, happy new year! > > Would like to add that as an example the Argentinian market, not an > industry reference but last year with Metegol film ( > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o8_iHpXZyw) has changed. in the last 10 > years from having the majority of 3d houses (the ones that opened up the > market here) from Softimage to Maya, leaving a few companies, less than 3 > working with Softimage. And i´m talking that nowadays there are more than > 200 studios in Buenos Aires. I´ve been lucky to get the chance of being an > influence on other latin american countries, like Mexico, for an animated > feature film, and decided to go with Softimage all the way, and since i was > out of the project, the person that took my job decided to go through maya > and all kind of problems appeared. > What i´m trying to say here is that softimage users we know the big > advantages it has compared to 3dsmax and maya, in my case as freelance > working on studios for short term, when i see the rest of the project team > running against issues in maya, that in softimage doesn´t even exist, or > taking maybe three times longer for doing a simple thing, just try to show > them soft as a simple life saver.Despite this is getting harder and harder > foe me to get a job in the market, and (in my case) forget about getting a > work in London, Vancouver, or somewhere in the US, getting a work visa is > almost impossible. > So yes, time to time learning maya, waiting for feeling comfortable enough > to move definitely, and suffering it a lot! > Just my 2 cents. > > F. > > > > > 2014/1/2 Andy Jones <andy.jo...@gmail.com> > >> It doesn't change anything about the job market, but one thing to keep in >> mind about rumors from Autodesk: >> >> I may have it wrong, as I'm by no means a lawyer but I believe if there >> were an actual rumor about Autodesk's plans that wasn't issued publicly in >> a press release, it would be illegal, since people "in the know" could sell >> Autodesk stock on any rumors that Softimage would be getting shelved (the >> assumption being that the surge of new Houdini & Modo users would have some >> negative impact on AD stock prices). >> >> It's certainly possible for a legitimate leak of information to occur, >> but it most likely wouldn't be coming from anyone who _really_ knows what >> the plan is. If it were, that person would be taking a very big risk. >> >> Point being, I would take anything labeled as a "rumor" with a grain of >> salt. I'm not naive -- most things like this do originate somewhere. My >> guess would be that most such rumors are coming from AD employees trying to >> fend off ongoing questions about the future from industry people like us. >> So they might have some grain of truth behind them, but anything with a >> timestamp like "within the year" is likely to be somebody's own speculation. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Stephen Davidson >> <magic...@bellsouth.net>wrote: >> >>> I am extremely lucky to work freelance, so that I am not directed to use >>> any >>> particular software for any particular project. As long as it looks good, >>> my customers are oblivious to what software I am using. >>> >>> Whenever I did work for a production facility, on site, I have always >>> managed >>> to justify their license purchase. It has a lot to do with the length of >>> experience >>> that I have on Softimage. >>> >>> So... I use what works best for me ... Softimage ... has since version >>> 1.0 >>> At least, with all my 3D work. I have tried 3D Max and Maya, just to see >>> if >>> they could improve my workflow. I guess I am too entrenched in Softimage >>> to be able to wrap my head around other 3D app's interface. The others >>> just seem so clumsy. I realize it is because I am used to a certain >>> ingrained >>> workflow that I have developed over the years. The recent addition of >>> RedShift3D >>> render software has improved the render speeds, and quality, immensely. >>> I doubt RedShift would put that much effort into supporting Softimage, >>> as well as >>> Maya, if they thought Softimage was going away any time soon. >>> >>> If Softimage goes away, which I doubt it will, I will probably learn to >>> work >>> Blender, as open source seems to live on forever. It probably has >>> something >>> to do with the cost. :) >>> >>> BTW... didn't Maya used to be called Wavefront ? >>> >>> Happy New Year, all! >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Mirko Jankovic < >>> mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> taking refuge in Maya?? >>>> No thank you! better slow but painless death in never improved SI, like >>>> falling asleep slowly.. then looong torture and painful life in Maya! >>>> No thank you! >>>> SI.. I'm going down with you.. in the next 10-20 years... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Jeffrey Dates <jda...@kungfukoi.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd think whomever makes the suite of scripts and plugins for Maya for >>>>> the Softimage refugees soon to be converting over would certainly have a >>>>> built-in base of users. >>>>> >>>>> I also think there is an opportunity for a Fabric Engine Developer to >>>>> capture some of the refugees with the same thinking... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Szabolcs Matefy >>>>> <szabol...@crytek.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Actually, I am fairly experienced with Maya, yet I feel that it's a >>>>>> wheelchair with square wheels compared to Softimage. However, I see >>>>>> development in Maya a lot more than in Softimage. Houdini is quite out of >>>>>> my scope, being a character artist :). >>>>>> >>>>>> The fact is, if I want to get hired by a game development company, I >>>>>> have to learn Maya and Max, and I have to promote it. So my current >>>>>> project >>>>>> of Vinnie Jones went into Maya, and yes, it's quite painful, because some >>>>>> things are rather clumsy in Maya...:( But I want to get hired, and the >>>>>> companies who I want to work for are mostly Maya based companies. Max is >>>>>> pain in the ass, really, clumsy, mediocre, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> UK is on my list to get a job there, but last year I was too >>>>>> lazy...This year I want to change a lot, and take my family to a better >>>>>> place :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> PS. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope that new Softimage will have a lot more for us, and will kick >>>>>> some Max and Maya ass. Chris Chia, will it? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >>>>>> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 11:37 AM >>>>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Szabolcs, >>>>>> >>>>>> even with your credentials? Fauna, a Tutor, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Judging on your email address, I would have thought you´d be 3DsMax >>>>>> centric at work, due to the Z-up preferences of the Cryengine and the >>>>>> tools/plugins available for a solid 3DSMax>Cryengine workflow. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here´s a few Maya secrets I´d like to share: >>>>>> >>>>>> Embrace Maya accepting that you will need a high treshold for pain to >>>>>> do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Invert your favourite Normalmap´s green channel for use in Maya. Will >>>>>> make you feel home. >>>>>> >>>>>> There´s a huge community of hungarian 2D/3D artists in London, a >>>>>> friend of mine just went there and is now happy bitching about the insane >>>>>> costs of anything involving living a modest life but also straight out >>>>>> glad >>>>>> he did it, there was not enough work in either Budapest or Berlin. >>>>>> Both would have been the better cities to be at but I can really >>>>>> understand that a man wants to work :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> tim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02.01.2014 10:11, Szabolcs Matefy wrote: >>>>>> > I’ve lsot my positive thinking in the last year, so from now on, >>>>>> I’ll >>>>>> > move to maya. Why? Because as a Softimage artist I couldn’t find ANY >>>>>> > job. I am skilled in maya too, but having Softimage as my primary >>>>>> tool, I was always rejected saying that they want somebody who knows maya >>>>>> on an expert level. So, from today I’ll learn maya secrets. At work I’ll >>>>>> use Softimage. Seeing no development really, makes me sad. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>> > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of >>>>>> *Aloys >>>>>> > Baillet >>>>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 24, 2013 5:25 AM >>>>>> > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>>> > *Subject:* Re: rumor, Soft dead within the next year >>>>>> > >>>>>> > C'mon! You have to trust that "Everything is Awesome", with the LEGO >>>>>> > movie entirely animated with Softimage! >>>>>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ_JOBCLF-I >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Merry XMas everyone! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Arman Sernaz >>>>>> > <arma...@gmail.com<mailto: >>>>>> arma...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Such a Great Work Walter ! It was a pleasure watching this :) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 2013/12/20 wavo <w...@fiftyeight.com <mailto:w...@fiftyeight.com>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Merry Xmas and a happy new Year: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > done with one of the last version of softimage: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://www.bang-awards.com/en/movie/362-mite >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *Walter Volbers* >>>>>> > Senior Animator >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *FIFTYEIGHT*3D >>>>>> > Animation & Digital Effects GmbH >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Kontorhaus Osthafen >>>>>> > Lindleystraße 12 >>>>>> > 60314 Frankfurt am Main >>>>>> > Germany >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Telefon +49 (0) 69.48 000 55.50 >>>>>> > <tel:%2B49%20%280%29%2069.48%20000%2055.50> >>>>>> > Telefax +49 (0) 69.48 000 55.15 >>>>>> > <tel:%2B49%20%280%29%2069.48%20000%2055.15> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _mailto:w...@fiftyeight.com >>>>>> > http://www.fiftyeight.com >>>>>> > _ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > ESC*58* >>>>>> > Eine Kooperation der escape GmbH und der FIFTYEIGHT3D GmbH >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _http://www.ESC58.de <http://www.ESC58.de>_ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > www.lhvfx.com <http://www.lhvfx.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Aloys Baillet >>>>>> > Lead Software Developer >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Research & Development - Animal Logic >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > >>>>>> > /Eat Real Food! I buy my sustainable produce from local farmers >>>>>> > through Food Connect Sydney. http://sydney.foodconnect.com.au/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> * Stephen P. Davidson* >>> >>> *(954) 552-7956 <%28954%29%20552-7956> * >>> sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com >>> >>> *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* >>> >>> >>> - Arthur C. Clarke >>> >>> <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> >>> >> >> >
