I am opening a JIRA issue to track this https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-1252
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Jan Høydahl<[email protected]> wrote: > Instead of multiple releases, how about one minimal release, and a "package" > system? > > An installer will be needed for this - could be as simple as a java program > reading an XML file with package names and URLs, or as advanced as a full > OSGI implementation as in Eclipse, or JSR277. > > A side-effect of this is that we could use the same installer mechonism to > distribute 3rd party components, analyzers, dictionaries and more. After > all, an enterprise search platform is complex enough to call for this at > some point in time.. And version dependency control comes for free as well > :) > > -- > Jan Høydahl > Gründer & senior architect > Cominvent AS, Stabekk, Norway > www.cominvent.com > > On 15. juni. 2009, at 17.12, patrick o'leary wrote: > >> Those examples and features should still exist but in a batteries included >> version >> The lite version is just for those who want the simple basic search >> feature. >> >> More than 70% of solr these days is indexing strategy or client libraries, >> rather than search. >> These are important, but are now beginning to clutter things up for >> deployment. >> It would be good to offer a lite version for those that are just >> upgrading, >> and a simple target >> to build a lite-example for those hacking away on the code or distributing >> a >> example version. >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Ian Holsman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Is bandwidth or disk space really an issue for people today ? >>> >>> you should be focusing on decreasing the size and speed of indexing stuff >>> not the code-base. It's not like you guys have unlimited time to spend on >>> this project. >>> >>> ps. if you don't have the examples in there, then people won't know that >>> feature exists. >>> >>> and yes. i regularly copy the example schema to create a new index. I >>> know >>> it's bad practice, and not the most efficient schema, but it usually has >>> the >>> cool features enabled in it ;-) >>> >>> >>> Noble Paul ??????? ?????? wrote: >>> >>>> +1 for solr lite >>>> >>>> A lot of users are fine without those example stuff (dih , cell) >>>> >>>> one option is to have two different distributions. solr.zip and a >>>> solr-min.zip >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Runo<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'd be willing to guess that the vast majority of users start off with >>>>> the >>>>> example app and customize from there to meet their needs. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your time! >>>>> >>>>> Matthew Runo >>>>> Software Engineer, Zappos.com >>>>> [email protected] - 702-943-7833 >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Eric Pugh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Has anyone really complained about the size of Solr? One of the >>>>>> things >>>>>> I >>>>>> like about Solr is how simple it is to get things up and running, and >>>>>> how >>>>>> accesible the example directory makes everything. When I first played >>>>>> with >>>>>> DIH and Cell, everything was there. I didn't have to chase down >>>>>> .jar's >>>>>> from >>>>>> multiple places. Maybe if it was as simple as "ant >>>>>> build-example-cell" >>>>>> and >>>>>> "ant build-example-dih" then there might not be a barrier to entry for >>>>>> new >>>>>> users. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd be curious to hear what percentage of folks deploy solr based on >>>>>> the >>>>>> example app, and how many just start out with the most stripped down >>>>>> solr.war and build everything up from there? >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should be easy enough to conjure up the Ant magic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Yonik Seeley wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for bringing this up Patrick... clearly it would be nice to >>>>>>>> avoid (or mandate) 100MB downloads! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Yonik >>>>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:50 PM, patrick o'leary <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just using the apache-solr example directory, it seems to have >>>>>>>>> gotten >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>> e.g. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $ du -sh * >>>>>>>>> 13M apache-solr-1.3.0 >>>>>>>>> 92M apache-solr-1.4.0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The biggest space user being example-DIH >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> apache-solr-1.4.0/example >>>>>>>>> $ du -sh * >>>>>>>>> 4.0K README.txt >>>>>>>>> 5.5M clustering >>>>>>>>> 80K etc >>>>>>>>> *32M example-DIH* >>>>>>>>> 42K exampleAnalysis >>>>>>>>> 168K exampledocs >>>>>>>>> 13M lib >>>>>>>>> 52K logs >>>>>>>>> 118K multicore >>>>>>>>> *31M solr* >>>>>>>>> 20K start.jar >>>>>>>>> 12M webapps >>>>>>>>> 12K work >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> solr/lib is now 30mb >>>>>>>>> apache-solr-1.4.0/example/solr/lib >>>>>>>>> $ ls -lhS >>>>>>>>> total 30M >>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 14M Jun 10 17:08 ooxml-schemas-1.0.jar >>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 4.3M Jun 10 17:08 icu4j-3.8.jar >>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 3.2M Jun 10 17:08 pdfbox-0.7.3.jar >>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 2.6M Jun 10 17:08 xmlbeans-2.3.0.jar >>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.5M Jun 10 17:08 poi-3.5-beta5.jar >>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.2M Jun 10 17:08 xercesImpl-2.8.1.jar >>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.1M Jun 10 17:08 bcprov-jdk14-132.jar >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> as opposed to 0 for 1.3.0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This pushes solr to over a 100mb download for features that I'm >>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>>> packaged up separately as they look seldom used. >>>>>>>>> It would make sense if there's going to be a batteries included >>>>>>>>> version >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> also have a solr-lite version. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> P >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Grant Ingersoll >>>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika/Droids) >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> Solr/Lucene: >>>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Eric Pugh | Principal | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | >>>>>> http://www.opensourceconnections.com >>>>>> Free/Busy: http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Noble Paul | Principal Engineer| AOL | http://aol.com
