I know this is easier said then done but I know lots opensource products
support many different types of databases.  Mainly I believe because
everything is implemented on the java side using JPA/Hibernate.  Switching
between databases would be a matter of switching the Hibernate dialect in a
config file.  It would be awesome if we could get to something like that but
I know there are so many stored procedures that are currently in place and
oracle specific pieces.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Hooker, Jonathan <
jonathan.hoo...@garmin.com> wrote:

> >From where I am in corporate land, many of the corporations using this
> will either be large and have many DBAs to support many different types of
> databases or they will be small Linux shops that have a very open source
> mentality. Either way, they (we) are very much desiring a low cost
> alternative to Oracle. In this economy, many, if not all, corporations are
> looking to pinch every penny they can. Oracle is an easy way to do so. If
> the Spacewalk project isn't careful, we will drive many of these
> corporations away. If a company is putting in a Spacewalk server, they are
> looking to save money. Generally speaking, if they are willing to pull for
> an Oracle database, most would be willing to pull for a Satellite server
> rather than a Spacewalk server because the Satellite server comes with
> support. In general, those implementing Spacewalk have the mental prowess to
> install and manage a PostgreSQL server by themselves anyhow. Anymore these
> days, corporations are not necessarily looking to consolidate all their
> databases, they are looking to consolidate the ones that cost them money due
> to the benefits they receive if they do. I would definitely echo Duncan's
> comment that PostgreSQL should be the primary focus for development and
> Oracle should be kept around at most as a supported environment but
> definitely not a heavily developed one.
>
> Jonathan Hooker
> Desktop Support - Engineering
> Garmin International
> jonathan.hoo...@garmin.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spacewalk-devel-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:
> spacewalk-devel-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Andy Speagle
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:36 AM
> To: spacewalk-devel@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-devel] Moving postgres support forward
>
> El mar, 04-05-2010 a las 04:27 -0500, dun...@innes.net escribió:
> > I'd echo this sentiment.  Having worked on a number of large corporate
> > Satellite installations, I can't think of a single client who wouldn't
> > jump at the chance of ditching the extra Oracle licenses involved.
>
> Indeed... but many larger organizations won't even blink at this license.
>
> > Maintaining support for an Oracle back end may be a requirement, but
> > from my own experience, moving to PostgreSQL as the primary
> > development effort would not raise any eyebrows in corporate-land.  It
> > would also help broaden the appeal of Spacewalk amongst the open
> > source development community as coders for other distros will likely
> > (IMO) view the Oracle dependency as a blocker to them investing their
> > time.  Opening the path for other distros to develop Spacewalk as
> > their management tool can only be a good thing I reckon.
>
> I will be quite happy to see the database options expand, but I assert that
> many organizations standardize their database environments and build a
> wealth of support infrastructure around them.  Having to implement a new
> database architecture to support Spacewalk/Satellite could be quite
> unpalatable.  Unless I'm mistaken, reducing administrative overhead is one
> goal of the spacewalk/satellite projects.
> The addition of another database architecture to support would be
> counter-productive for some organizations.
>
> While I agree that opening doors for smaller organizations to use the
> products on PostgreSQL is desirable, I would not like to see this happen as
> the expense of the existing user base.
> --
> Andy Speagle
>
> Systems & Storage Administrator
> UCATS - Wichita State University
>
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