both get the job done, but have different effect on the OLL edges. I'm trying to pay attention to this as I insert the last F2L pair to anticipate (and manipulate) what kind of OLL I'll end up with, but that's about where I'm at as a cuber.
--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh I forgot one question I meant to ask. When I'm inserting the F2L > pair, I seem to do it not like what is normally described. For > instance: U R U' R' .. when I do: R' F R F'.. Is there something > inherently better with the first approach? Maybe I'm holding the cube > a bit differently.. > > Aron > > On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Welcome, Aron > > > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that > > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and > > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- > > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as > > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for > > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually > > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > > > Good luck! > > --Kirk > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > > > method. > > > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast > > out > > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > > share > > > them with me. > > > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside > > me, > > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > > starting > > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What > > was > > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if > > I > > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > > > into a bad habit. > > > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought > > of, > > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/