Is it just me, or is it because one spends more time with the big national models than the local ordinances that make it seem that the smaller the level of government is the less sense these codes make? "When two vehicles arrive at a crossroads at the same time neither shall proceed until the other is gone."
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:02 AM, A.P.Silva <silva...@shaw.ca> wrote: > Thanks for the reply. The building code I need to comply with is a little > bit different. Under the main heading of "Automatic Sprinkler Systems" the > following sentences are given: > > (1) Except as permitted by Sentence (2), (3) and (4), an automatic sprinkler > system shall be designed, constructed, installed and tested in conformance > with NFPA 13, "Installation of Sprinkler Systems". > (2) .... > (3) .... > (4) If a building contains fewer than 9 sprinklers, the water supply for > these sprinklers is permitted to be supplied from the domestic water system > for the building provided the required flow for the sprinklers can be met by > the domestic system. > (5) If a water supply serves both an automatic sprinkler system and a system > serving other equipment, control valves shall be provided so that either > system can be shut off independently. > > Sentence (2) & (3) pertain to the application of 13R and 13D. > > My question is more to do with building code interpretation rather than > technical. Won't sentence (5) supercede sentence (4) and also require > separate control valve for both sprinklers and domestic supply? Or due to > sentence (4), will the domestic supply be not considered "a system serving > other equipment" as given on sentence (5)? > > I realize sentence (4) does not make sense if sentence (5) requires separate > control valves for both "fewer than 9 sprinklers" and "9 and over > sprinklers". But I would also like opinions of others. > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Roland > Huggins > Sent: October 15, 2010 4:12 PM > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: Domestic Supply > > look at IBC 903.3.5.1: No more than 20 sprinklers AND you still have to > verify discharge with hydraulic calculations. NFPA 13 also touches the > subject and effectively says apply portions of 13 as required by the AHJ. > 903.4 identifies that monitoring is NOT required. > > Roland > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:58 PM, A.P.Silva wrote: > >> >> Local by-laws require the locker room and garbage room of a >> residential building to be sprinklered. So about 9 heads required. The >> architect wants sprinkler system to be connected to the domestic cold >> water line. I know it's not a good idea due to non-fire valves, water >> meters and alarm requirements. Pro's and con's? Any specific code >> section prohibiting it? >> Thanks, >> >> Tony >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: supp...@firesprinkler.org >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: supp...@firesprinkler.org > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: supp...@firesprinkler.org > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 rgreen...@bates.ctc.edu http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: AFSA, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, NFSA, AFAA, ASEE, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: supp...@firesprinkler.org To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
