Bruce, as it is with most projects, this is only part of the problem. The part 
high walls within this space create obstruction issues that will also need to 
be addressed. I’m tackling one issue at a time
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
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> On Mar 11, 2024 at 1:46 AM,  <BRUCE VERHEI (mailto:bver...@comcast.net)>  
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> As I think through this the one thing I like most is the 40’. Better a 
> distance than too close. Does the install instruction sheet for the 
> sprinklers include a spray pattern. Some chairs, low tables, magazine or two, 
> and a couple fake plants is what I hear.   
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> I might print out plan and impose spray patterns on it.   
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> Might be worth a few minutes. Even thinking through off-normal maintenance, 
> say the carpet guys, I just don’t see a challenge. I doubt the biggest hazard 
> you will see this week.   
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> Bruce.
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> > On 03/09/2024 10:59 AM PST Anthony Johnson  <mountainfirepr...@gmail.com>  
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> > Personally I would stick to LxW spacing and not sweat measuring along the 
> > circumference especially since thirteen sprinklers seems like overkill for 
> > the roughly 1256 sq ft of area. You could look to 8.6.3.2.5 (2016) for 
> > something along the same lines but this section is for measuring max 
> > distance from curved walls but the idea is the same: the standard has you 
> > measuring straight out and not along the circumference. By my estimation 
> > you could probably get by with only 8 sprinklers (with a 20 ft throw), one 
> > at each quadrant and in-between quadrants, so I wouldn't lose sleep with 
> > thirteen EC sprinklers in this area.  
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> > On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 2:58 PM Fpdcdesign  <fpdcdes...@gmail.com 
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> > >  I have already flexed my PE muscle and made the radical suggestion that 
> > > they use concealed pendants instead of extended sidewalls. I’m not sure 
> > > they will go for it because an intelligent solution would be inconsistent 
> > > with the rest of the building.   
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> > > > On Mar 8, 2024 at 3:41 PM,  <Ron Greenman 
> > > > (mailto:rongreen...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
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> > > > I'm thinking this may be one of those occasions where that PE after 
> > > > your name may need to be summoned, Todd.
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> > > > On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 11:22 AM Fpdcdesign  <fpdcdes...@gmail.com 
> > > > (mailto:fpdcdes...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
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> > > > >  Light Hazard. Waiting room
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> > > > > > On Mar 8, 2024 at 2:18 PM,  <Rick Matsuda 
> > > > > > (mailto:rick26...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
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> > > > > > What’s the occupancy of the space?
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> > > > > > > On Mar 8, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Fpdcdesign  <fpdcdes...@gmail.com 
> > > > > > > (mailto:fpdcdes...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
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> > > > > > >   I am working on a project that has a 40 ft diameter circular 
> > > > > > > ceiling at an elevation of 10 ft that is surrounded by an 8 ft 
> > > > > > > ceiling. The existing protection to the high areis provided by 18 
> > > > > > > extended coverage sidewall sprinklers around the perimeter. They 
> > > > > > > are renovating the space and want us to install new protection 
> > > > > > > using 13 extended coverage sidewall sprinklers. My question is 
> > > > > > > how do you space them along the wall? Everything I have seen in 
> > > > > > > 13 and manufacturer’s literature details spacing on straight 
> > > > > > > walls.   
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> > > > > > >   The circumference of the space is about 125 ft and 13 
> > > > > > > sprinklers would be spaced at about 9.5 ft, but angled towards 
> > > > > > > each other. Is this going to present a problem? Who else has 
> > > > > > > dealt with this?
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> > > > > > >  Todd G Williams, PE  
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