Thanks for the info, I guess I didn't realize declarative was added so recently, its been a while since I actually looked at the SA docs (which is where I found it). But you do make some good points about Elixer, I'll have to give it another look, because I do find the way that SA defines relationships to be difficult at times Jose
Jorge Vargas wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Jose Galvez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm not trying to be an ass, but what are the advantages to using Elixer >> > > well you did sound like one :) > > the first thing is that declarative is very new to SA (0.4.something, > and only "mainstream" in 0.5), while elixir has been around since > SA0.2(?) > next elixir is more featurefull than declarative, for instance it > provides you the ability to build custom relationships [1] there was a > really nice example somewhere but I can't find it, maybe it's on the > video. > the other nice feature is giving you a more OOP-ish api, with elixir > you can almost forget you are storing to tables. > last but not least, you have some nice magic that will take care of your > tables > Also I believe there is some subclassing/inheritance goodies > > That said I'm not the best person to answer this because I'm not a > heavy elixir user, I just wanted to point out it has a purpose, and if > it seems to overlap with SA is because something new was develop and > not the other way around. In fact declarative is an extension > distributed with SA, not a "core feature" and it was added so people > (including me) stop complaining about how verbose simple projects > where [2], on the other hand elixir is an implementation of Active > Record and beyond. > > [1] http://elixir.ematia.de/apidocs/elixir.relationships.html > [2] > http://groups.google.com/group/sqlalchemy/browse_thread/thread/817097f376fc808b/2e9ac8e83df54090 > > >> Gaetan de Menten wrote: >> >>> I am very pleased to announce that version 0.6.1 of Elixir >>> (http://elixir.ematia.de) is now available. As always, feedback is >>> very welcome, preferably on Elixir mailing list. >>> >>> This is a minor release featuring some bug fixes (one of them to >>> handle a late rename in SQLAlchemy's 0.5 beta cycle), a new, slighty >>> nicer, syntax for providing custom arguments to the column(s) needed >>> for ManyToOne relationships and some exception messages improvements. >>> >>> The full list of changes can be seen at: >>> http://elixir.ematia.de/trac/browser/elixir/tags/0.6.1/CHANGES >>> >>> What is Elixir? >>> --------------------- >>> >>> Elixir is a declarative layer on top of the SQLAlchemy library. It is >>> a fairly thin wrapper, which provides the ability to create simple >>> Python classes that map directly to relational database tables (this >>> pattern is often referred to as the Active Record design pattern), >>> providing many of the benefits of traditional databases without losing >>> the convenience of Python objects. >>> >>> Elixir is intended to replace the ActiveMapper SQLAlchemy extension, >>> and the TurboEntity project but does not intend to replace >>> SQLAlchemy's core features, and instead focuses on providing a simpler >>> syntax for defining model objects when you do not need the full >>> expressiveness of SQLAlchemy's manual mapper definitions. >>> >>> Mailing list >>> ---------------- >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sqlelixir/about >>> >>> >>> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sqlalchemy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sqlalchemy?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
